Player Discussion: Ehlers

[Buffdog]

No, apparently I did not know what you meant. I took it as written. Sorry if I misunderstood.

I can't agree with your last paragraph either. I agree that there is a range of skill among observers here. I certainly don't include myself among the best. But I understand what I am watching. And the tables and spreadsheets have helped me be a better observer. But I still understand my eye-test better than I understand many of the spreadsheets. I grasp some of them but I don't have the background in math to be able to get deeply into the subject. There are a few that I suspect are just not very good, not reliably predictive. But that is my opinion and I am not equipped to defend it so I just ignore those.

I don't think there is a substantial number of posters here who would fit those in that last paragraph of yours. There might be a few. There might be none. And I don't accept that you need to have played the game in order to watch it intelligently.

I love watching soccer, but I fully admit that i don't have the same understanding of what I'm watching as someone who has played or coached at a high level. Same with American football, etc.

I like to strum my guitar but I don't understand music like a professional musician

I'm curious why I'd be OK admitting that but people get defensive when I bring it up about hockey. There's no shame it it... I played moderately high level, I hold advanced coaching and officiating certs... but I still admit that I'm not always fully aware of the entirety of what's happening in an NHL game

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

But if he leaves via trade or as a UFA we don’t really lose other than a guy who’s been a good teammate and fan of Winnipeg. That’s something of course, but if he leaves, his salary (whatever it will be next year) stays here and we re-purpose it towards someone else.

We absolutely lose if he leaves in free agency, he is top 3 forward on this team, I don't think some of you understand just how important Ehlers is on this team.

It's not like we are the Rangers and can just get whatever top winger is available in FA to replace him.

 

[slurpee addict]

We absolutely lose if he leaves in free agency, he is top 3 forward on this team, I don't think some of you understand just how important Ehlers is on this team.

It's not like we are the Rangers and can just get whatever top winger is available in FA to replace him.

My point is we get the 8 million in salary that we will probably have to pay. And - I fully understand how good he is but let’s not get too much in love here. He’s good and fun to watch but he isn’t an all star or had a ppg season. And I know we don’t attract the free agents. I also think there’s a reason he hasn’t signed yet. He’s moving on from us. I really do hope I’m wrong though as he’s my favourite player.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Chevy probably waiting on the contract negotiations to see where the market is... he's going to need $14m for Connor by the looks of it

 

[Buffdog]

My point is we get the 8 million in salary that we will probably have to pay. And - I fully understand how good he is but let’s not get too much in love here. He’s good and fun to watch but he isn’t an all star or had a ppg season. And I know we don’t attract the free agents. I also think there’s a reason he hasn’t signed yet. He’s moving on from us. I really do hope I’m wrong though as he’s my favourite player.

I think both players and management are waiting to see what the cap is going to be set at before getting too deep into negotiations

It's possible that Ehlers has interest in other markets and that cap number might give an indication on what he'd be able to get from those, and the type of number he'd need from Chevy to stay

I think the same could possibly be said for Pionk