Player Discussion: Ehlers

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Trading him away in a year we have a legit shot at the cup is what could be a massive mistake. If we were a bubble team I would agree completely. We are not. Time for this team to win together this spring.
I agree it would be a HUGE mistake to trade Ehlers off, or not resign him shortly. He has been underutilized by previous coaches, for the talent he brings. He is averaging over a point per game this year, and in my mind, with powerplay #1 time, he is a 80 -90 point player. He's the kind of player you hope you can pick up, if you don't have a player like him. He is really a 1st line player on most all teams, and really is better than Villardi who plays on our 1st line.

In my opinion, past Coaches, and many posters on here, don't see the full value that Ehlers brings to the Jets. I hope they sign him, but it will be expensive.
 
Again an unpopular take but letting Nik walk to free agency would be a massive mistake for this organization, either re sign him or move him the sooner the better. I could be proven wrong and would be glad about it but I think he has already made up his mind and he will test the market. I also think that Chevy and Co. know this.
Unless he's traded to a team that knows he's going to re-sign, you're getting your typical rental price of "late 1st and B prospect" at the deadline for him

Guys picked in the last few spots in the 1st round have a 50/50 chance of ever playing 100 games in the NHL. Think Roslovic, Vesalainen, etc. Those ore the guys we've picked in those types of spots (Lambert TBD)

Maybe Chevy makes that deal and then packages that 1st plus our 1st together for a long term difference maker at 2C or RHD in the offseason? We'd downgraded from ehlers to Lambert or Chibs for the rest of the season and playoffs.
 
I can agree with this. I don't think we want to get rid of our 5th or 6th most important player


Paying Pionk $6.5 will be a bigger mistake than paying Ehlers $8.5 for sure
Both are stupid, what's your point?
 
I have learned to not worry too much about what Chevy is up to when it comes to signing and extending players. I don’t know what the plan is for Nik but to me I would be surprised if we use Nik as an own rental? That seems like an unlikely but not impossible scenario.
 
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I have learned to not worry too much about what Chevy is up to when it comes to signing and extending players. I don’t know what the plan is for Nik but to me I would be surprised if we use Nik as an own rental? That seems like an unlikely but not impossible scenario.
Chevy has never gone the own rental route on a player as important as Ehlers, and I don't expect it to happen now.
 
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Both are stupid, what's your point?
I do not see how you can say signing Ehlers for $ 8.5 is stupid ? His market value would be that and more as a UFA. I believe Nylander, the same kind of player is getting around $ 10 - 11 per year, with Toronto. What do you think his market value is ?

Ehlers at $ 8.5 mil is a very solid deal, both ways.

As for Pionk at $ 6.5 mil. - not sure what to think on him yet ?
 
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I do not see how you can say signing Ehlers for $ 8.5 is stupid ? His market value would be that and more as a UFA. I believe Nylader, the same kind of player is getting around $ 10 - 11 per year. What do you think his market value is ?

Ehlers at $ 8.5 mil is a very solid deal, both ways.

As for Pionk at $ 6.5 mil. - not sure what to think on him yet ?
Show me the comparable. His recent high is 61 points and garbage in the playoffs
 
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My take, I don't think Nik has any intention of signing here. He has spent his whole career playing second fiddle. Players want to be played in the way they think they deserve. He finally made the 1st pp this year (ten years in) but not in the position he is best at and wants to play and still very often plays under 15 mins a night. I think he will want to go somewhere where he can play first line minutes and first pp on the flank.

The only way to make a player stay for less opportunity/responsibility would be to overpay in both term and amount. Ehlers will easily be able to get $9m on a long term deal in the open market, and as much as II think the Jets would like him to come back, they won't want to pay him the same amount that Scheif and Helly make IMO.
 
Chevy has never gone the own rental route on a player as important as Ehlers, and I don't expect it to happen now.

Yea I believe he either moves Nike before the deadline in a trade or he extends him. I don’t think own rental makes sense given Nick’s track record in the playoffs.
 
My take, I don't think Nik has any intention of signing here. He has spent his whole career playing second fiddle. Players want to be played in the way they think they deserve. He finally made the 1st pp this year (ten years in) but not in the position he is best at and wants to play and still very often plays under 15 mins a night. I think he will want to go somewhere where he can play first line minutes and first pp on the flank.

The only way to make a player stay for less opportunity/responsibility would be to overpay in both term and amount. Ehlers will easily be able to get $9m on a long term deal in the open market, and as much as II think the Jets would like him to come back, they won't want to pay him the same amount that Scheif and Helly make IMO.
All I can say is Yup.
 
I do not see how you can say signing Ehlers for $ 8.5 is stupid ? His market value would be that and more as a UFA. I believe Nylander, the same kind of player is getting around $ 10 - 11 per year, with Toronto. What do you think his market value is ?

Ehlers at $ 8.5 mil is a very solid deal, both ways.

As for Pionk at $ 6.5 mil. - not sure what to think on him yet ?
 
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Part of the reason I think re-signing him is such a great idea is because GM's think a lot like this when it comes to contracts. We may even get a bit of a bargain...
What is the comparable? How tf are we talking about Ehlers as $8m+ player on a long term?
 
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I do not see how you can say signing Ehlers for $ 8.5 is stupid ? His market value would be that and more as a UFA. I believe Nylander, the same kind of player is getting around $ 10 - 11 per year, with Toronto. What do you think his market value is ?

Ehlers at $ 8.5 mil is a very solid deal, both ways.

As for Pionk at $ 6.5 mil. - not sure what to think on him yet ?
First of all the question remains does Ehlers want to be here and does Chevy want to sign him?
I don't think Ehlers gets Schefiele/Hellebuyck money. I think he gets $7-7.5 million range.
Who do you compare Ehlers to ... DeDrusk just got $5.5 x 4 and he has more goals in the last 3 seasons plus this season ... same age. Ehlers is better imo and deserves a raise but not that high.
I also don't think Pionk gets more than Morrissey ... tops he gets is $6 million imo.
Scheifele and Hellebuyck set the tables for signing contracts with the Jets ... fair value but Chevy & the Jets will not overpay.
 
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Funny how quiet the insane Ehlers fans get when you ask for comparable contracts they expect.

Wish we had more Jets fans on this board..
 
Sir it's been less than an hour
Funny how you could have replied with a real answer but instead you make this lame reply. It doesn't matter how much time I give you, we both know your expectation of a $8.5m long term has no good comparable for what Ehlers has done to date.
 

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