Player Discussion: Ehlers

[nobody imp0rtant]

Part of that can be pinned on Helle's less than stellar performance and usage

How can you say that? He was playing the best hockey of his career. In the zone. Laser focused.

 

[ekotyluk]

Ehlers has 4 goals and 10 assists for 14 points and is a -9 , he has been horrible in the playoffs and i like Ehlers so I'm not picking on him.Scheifele has 21 goals 17 assists for 38 points and is a -2 . Ehlers has played 37 games and Scheifele 42 . Ehlers most definitely deserves criticism.

Never said Ehlers doesn't deserve criticism, but he's surely not the only one. The whole team got schooled by the Avs and Helle looked like a bantam goalie out there. The only guy who picked up his game for the playoffs was KC. My point is there is so much complaining about Ehlers and everyone else gets a free pass.

 

[surixon]

Never said Ehlers doesn't deserve criticism, but he's surely not the only one. The whole team got schooled by the Avs and Helle looked like a bantam goalie out there. The only guy who picked up his game for the playoffs was KC. My point is there is so much complaining about Ehlers and everyone else gets a free pass.

Helle, the second line and our defense outsode of JoMo all got a significant amount of criticism this past playoff series. Fly was hardly alone.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Seems to me the whole team has worn the poor playoff label. Ehlers is more of a lifetime achievement label.

OT winner against Edmonton
That shit matters.
Let’s take it a step further, he’s a zone entry wizard who teams would game plan for.

 

[Jets 31]

Never said Ehlers doesn't deserve criticism, but he's surely not the only one. The whole team got schooled by the Avs and Helle looked like a bantam goalie out there. The only guy who picked up his game for the playoffs was KC. My point is there is so much complaining about Ehlers and everyone else gets a free pass.

Absolutely, the entire team hasn't been good in the playoffs, Helly especially because he is regarded as one of the best in the NHL. Helly should be able to carry us to a series win more than he has.

 

[KingBogo]

OT winner against Edmonton
That shit matters.
Let’s take it a step further, he’s a zone entry wizard who teams would game plan for.

Ehlers is one of my favorite players, but there is no way way to gloss over his playoff performances. It is hard to go 9 years into your career and never be a playoff contributor.

 

[surixon]

Ehlers is one of my favorite players, but there is no way way to gloss over his playoff performances. It is hard to go 9 years into your career and never be a playoff contributor.

He just doesn't get his nose dirty enough. You need to get to the hard areas to score in the playoffs and his long range volume shooting doesn't work as well against teams that are playing much tighter playoff defense.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Ehlers is one of my favorite players, but there is no way way to gloss over his playoff performances. It is hard to go 9 years into your career and never be a playoff contributor.

Never?
Just said OT winner against Oilers

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Helle, the second line and our defense outsode of JoMo all got a significant amount of criticism this past playoff series. Fly was hardly alone.

He's been getting the lion's share of the criticism. Maybe that is just because of his contract situation.

 

[surixon]

He's been getting the lion's share of the criticism. Maybe that is just because of his contract situation.

Well I imagine it should be under consideration if the team wants to ink him long term through his decline years.

 

[ekotyluk]

He just doesn't get his nose dirty enough. You need to get to the hard areas to score in the playoffs and his long range volume shooting doesn't work as well against teams that are playing much tighter playoff defense.

I agree but I'd say that also applies to most of his team mates, not just his line mates. I don't think many else are hard enough to play against either. The avs closed distance a lot faster in the playoffs than regular season and never gave up. We hardly changed at all.

Once the Jets quit driving the play and started reacting to what the Avs were doing it was game over.

 

[Buffdog]

Never said Ehlers doesn't deserve criticism, but he's surely not the only one. The whole team got schooled by the Avs and Helle looked like a bantam goalie out there. The only guy who picked up his game for the playoffs was KC. My point is there is so much complaining about Ehlers and everyone else gets a free pass.

What difference does it make who is and isn't getting a free pass? This is the Ehlers thread, and we're talking about his poor play in the playoffs. What other players are or are not getting criticized for doesn't change anything

 

[surixon]

I agree but I'd say that also applies to most of his team mates, not just his line mates. I don't think many else are hard enough to play against either. The avs closed distance a lot faster in the playoffs than regular season and never gave up. We hardly changed at all.

Once the Jets quit driving the play and started reacting to what the Avs were doing it was game over.

We just don't have the superstars some other teams have. Mark and KC still produce in the playoffs but their flaws also get exploited all too often as well.

Hopefully we get back to an aggressive forecheck and stick with it this year. We abandoned it the back half of last year after we got slower players.

 

[ffh]

Trade ehlers for a center because I don't believe lambert is the answer at center short term or long term. Think it's wing or bust for him. Yager to me after watching him at the rookie tournament is the future center on the top 6

 

[Weezeric]

Trade ehlers for a center because I don't believe lambert is the answer at center short term or long term. Think it's wing or bust for him. Yager to me after watching him at the rookie tournament is the future center on the top 6

If you could trade Ehlers for a top6 center, that wouldve been done a long time ago…

 

[Buffdog]

Trade ehlers for a center because I don't believe lambert is the answer at center short term or long term. Think it's wing or bust for him. Yager to me after watching him at the rookie tournament is the future center on the top 6

I'll forward your suggestion to Chevy

I'm sure that the idea of trading someone with one year of term left for a longterm solution at 2C or 1/2RHD has never occurred to him

 

[Jet]

He's been getting the lion's share of the criticism. Maybe that is just because of his contract situation.

I think it's also because he's the only one of the core who really has never elevated in the playoffs.

Lots of guys deserved criticism last ps but many of them have showed the ability to play playoff hockey at some point.

 

[KingBogo]

I think it's also because he's the only one of the core who really has never elevated in the playoffs.

Lots of guys deserved criticism last ps but many of them have showed the ability to play playoff hockey at some point.

It is also the Ehlers thread, so naturally the discussion will be focused on him. I also wonder how much his injury history has taken a toll on him by seasons end. We hear pretty regularly with him that he has been dealing with some sort of injury while still playing.

 

[DRW204]

Trade ehlers for a center because I don't believe lambert is the answer at center short term or long term. Think it's wing or bust for him. Yager to me after watching him at the rookie tournament is the future center on the top 6

i think it's a big tbd on all these prospects if they're C or not. it's not uncommon for guys in those player's draft range to go from C to Wing (and can add Perfetti to that even). Im old enough to remember the hype Roslovic got after his 17-18 season to be the next 2C of this team, and that really has not come to fruition.

As for trading ehlers, i highly doubt we'll be getting an established Center for him, given he has 1 year remaining. even a center of similar contract status....not sure who that'd be, and given FA is over and TC is starting, id think the acquiring team would have wanted to fulfill the hole left at Center after acquiring Ehlers. Unless, there's teams out there that have 3 x top-6 caliber Cs but

 

[bustamente]

Saying this as Ehlers is my favourite Jet. has been since he got here but a change of scenery might be best, as for what he may return I would hope a solid top 4 d man would be in the Jets interest considering the cupboards are bare.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

If you could trade Ehlers for a top6 center, that wouldve been done a long time ago…

Might be able to trade Ehlers for a centre prospect?

 

[JetsFan815]

Trade ehlers for a center because I don't believe lambert is the answer at center short term or long term. Think it's wing or bust for him. Yager to me after watching him at the rookie tournament is the future center on the top 6

Which C do you think is gonna be on offer in such a trade?

 

[jetsforever]

Trade ehlers for a center because I don't believe lambert is the answer at center short term or long term. Think it's wing or bust for him. Yager to me after watching him at the rookie tournament is the future center on the top 6

Keep Ehlers and sign Toews

 

[Jet]

Saying this as Ehlers is my favourite Jet. has been since he got here but a change of scenery might be best, as for what he may return I would hope a solid top 4 d man would be in the Jets interest considering the cupboards are bare.

Yeah that's where I am as well.

If the Jets are serious about playoff success they have to start looking at players who show up in the post season.

I'll miss nik for sure - he's been a joy to watch

 

[cbcwpg]

Nik

Points per game

Regular season: 0.755
Playoffs: 0.378