Salary Cap: Ehlers signs 7x6, Nylander signs ?????
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Nithoniniel
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That's for a superstar and a #1C, and Okposo isn't exactly a bad player. It's not brutal.
Mugzy97
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Matthews is better I agree.
Marner more points because Eichel missed half of the season.
Nylander better rookie season being 3? years older than Eichel when Eichel was in his rookie season.
Look, I'm a huge fan of the leafs and the big 3, but only Matthews is better than Eichel and that is not arguable.
Randy Randerson
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all my notifications for Ehlers' contract said 6 years, $42M...the extra year is a very nice surprise
If we got Matthews on 8x$10M and Nylander/Marner on 8x$6.5, that would be a combined $23M cap hit coming into effect in 2019/2020. Toews and Kane are $21M effective now, so of a $75M cap = 28%. If the cap goes up at the same average rate that it has since the cap came into effect, by the time that all of the Big 3's contracts are in place they would be a smaller % of cap than just Toews and Kane
If we got Matthews on 8x$10M and Nylander/Marner on 8x$6.5, that would be a combined $23M cap hit coming into effect in 2019/2020. Toews and Kane are $21M effective now, so of a $75M cap = 28%. If the cap goes up at the same average rate that it has since the cap came into effect, by the time that all of the Big 3's contracts are in place they would be a smaller % of cap than just Toews and Kane
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Trapper
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Matthews and Eichel are both franchise centers. People can split hairs over who is better if they like. I take Matthews because I believe his all around game is and will always be better. Eichel may be the better PPG player but Matthews is a rock.
Then the difference between Buffalo/Toronto comes down to the rest. Willy and Mitch (IMO) are a tier about Reinhart and brother Nylander, plus our supporting cast + coaching put us ahead.
The same goes for Laine in the comparisons. I think Laine will score more goals eventually due to the fact that he can be selfish, in the Ovi/Kessel way and has much less responsibility than a center.
Again, Matthews is a rock.
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When their rookie seasons weren't comparable. Would take a pretty decent fall off year 2 for them to be.
When you say "Brutal", you mean Brutal for us because it will take about $25M just to sign the big 3.
it is in my books. Eichel is not a 10m player, 7.5m for O'Reilly, no thanks(and i really like him), 6m for okposo, ummmm no thanks.
ummm, nope great for us, we will ink our big 3 for less and have the better combined players.
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No, we wont get them for less, our market is maximum pressure, thus a premium is required. $25M/yr for the big 3.
Most likely..
Matthews 8 x 10.5
Nylander 8 x 7
Marner 8 x 7
Total 24.5 which is great!
That's on the premise that they all take 7 year deals. The avv goes down as the deal gets shorter.
I see no way that we spend over 25m on the 3.
Matthews 8 x 10.5
Nylander 8 x 7
Marner 8 x 7
Total 24.5 which is great!
That's on the premise that they all take 7 year deals. The avv goes down as the deal gets shorter.
I see no way that we spend over 25m on the 3.
In Nylander's full rookie (last season), he was 1 year older (1 year 5 months) than Eichel not 3 years older.
Marner and Eichel were both 19 during most of their rookie seasons. Marner got more points in less games.
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Its an interesting point and observation.
When comparing players on skill their ceilings seem to be much higher, but when talking contracts the comparables and price tag don't seem to align.
I've always found $$$ comparables a more accurate measure of a player values (more objective debate measure).. Nylander here more in the Ehlers/Pasternak range than Eichel\Draitsaitl. IMO
If Eichel gets $10 mil and Marner gets $7 mil and Draisaitl gets $8.5 mil and Nylander gets $7 mil then the players from their same draft class comparables that went ahead of the Leaf players seem to be valued >> based on the contracts they get.
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Menzinger
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No incentive for Nylander to sign now. He's definitely not going to get LESS than 6 million.
Smart move for his agent is to watch him put up 70-80 points and will then get more money
Smart move for his agent is to watch him put up 70-80 points and will then get more money
bobermay
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I dunno... if Nylander were to get 40 points this season, he'll be hard pressed to demand 6 million...
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i agree no reason to sign low
he's looked great in the preseason and if gets close to a ppg this year i see him asking for Drais type money
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Glad to see some sanity in the RFA market, after the Draisaitl, McDavid, and Eichel contracts.
Those three contracts are each a solid ~1.5-2M above what you would have expected, given the recent RFA market set by contracts such as Barkov, Gaudreau, Monahan, MacKinnon, etc. They pretty much paid those three their UFA value as young RFAs.
Ehlers on the otherhand is much more in line with historical long-term RFA contracts. Pay them well, but still decently below what their UFA value would be.
Those three contracts are each a solid ~1.5-2M above what you would have expected, given the recent RFA market set by contracts such as Barkov, Gaudreau, Monahan, MacKinnon, etc. They pretty much paid those three their UFA value as young RFAs.
Ehlers on the otherhand is much more in line with historical long-term RFA contracts. Pay them well, but still decently below what their UFA value would be.
