Podcast (Audio) Edmonton Sports Radio/Podcast Thread - Part 7

[bellagiobob]

Probably belongs here, but the Athletic is reporting that Marek got fired for tipping draft picks to his friend who would then post their social media before picks were actually made. Nevada gaming is investigating.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1818982919479685602

 

[joestevens29]

What is with this world just because others get away with something doesn’t mean you shouldn’t get punished when you break the rules.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Interesting.
I am not all that familiar with Jay Milne though.

Can you DM me?

 

[bellagiobob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828885424133038242

 

[joestevens29]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828885424133038242

Noticed that both 630 and 880 were the same the past week or so. Wasn't sure what was up.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Can somebody explain what benefit this has more ched?

 

[Morpheus]

Can somebody explain what benefit this has more ched?

Edmonton's 630 CHED moves to a new spot on the AM radio dial

After more than 60 years broadcasting from the 630 frequency on AM radio, CHED is making a move.

edmonton.ctvnews.ca

 

[bellagiobob]

Noticed that both 630 and 880 were the same the past week or so. Wasn't sure what was up.

They are in a big financial mess, so not sure if somehow this frequency is cheaper or how that works. Gone from a $25 stock to a 14 cent stock.

 

[guymez]

Edmonton's 630 CHED moves to a new spot on the AM radio dial

After more than 60 years broadcasting from the 630 frequency on AM radio, CHED is making a move.

edmonton.ctvnews.ca

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Unless they have a stronger transmitter the coverage will be worse.
Frequencies lower down on the AM band travel further distances so if the transmitter has the same wattage output as 630 then 880 wont have the same reach.
So without providing a reason for their claim that the signal coverage will be better its just a bunch of BS. Just an excuse which likely has more to do with obscuring cost cutting measures than anything else.

It reminds me of when Telus sold their email to Google. They marketed that as the best possible thing for their email users when in reality it had everything to do with selling Google their user data. There was no advantage at all to the email users but Telus did their utmost to make it look like it was all done to benefit the users.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

They are in a big financial mess, so not sure if somehow this frequency is cheaper or how that works. Gone from a $25 stock to a 14 cent stock.

I don't see people tuning in for news every 20 minutes and a ton of commercials for 10 minute segments sponsored by royal pizza and Ruth's Chris steakhouse being a sustainable business model.

 

[joestevens29]

Unless they have a stronger transmitter the coverage will be worse.
Frequencies lower down on the AM band travel further distances so if the transmitter has the same wattage output as 630 then 880 wont have the same reach.
So without providing a reason for their claim that the signal coverage will be better its just a bunch of BS. Just an excuse which likely has more to do with obscuring cost cutting measures than anything else.

It reminds me of when Telus sold their email to Google. They marketed that as the best possible thing for their email users when in reality it had everything to do with selling Google their user data. There was no advantage at all to the email users but Telus did their utmost to make it look like it was all done to benefit the users.

Around Edmonton I don't see no difference, but I go East or North and 630 ched is the best reception for me

Some sort of money play here

So I don't really follow 630 ched, but saw they had a list of programming and how everything seems to be staying the same.

My question is have they lost any people?

Seems like you'd be a fool to be employed by them and not looking for alternative work

 

[guymez]

Around Edmonton I don't see no difference, but I go East or North and 630 ched is the best reception for me

Some sort of money play here

So I don't really follow 630 ched, but saw they had a list of programming and how everything seems to be staying the same.

My question is have they lost any people?

Seems like you'd be a fool to be employed by them and not looking for alternative work

I agree. CHED is a sinking ship...another go woke...go broke scenario?

In any event 630 Cheds signal reaches into the far south and north of the province. 880's doesnt.

My hope...Sportsnet takes over the 630 frequency and gets the Oilers rights.
Then we can listen to Hockey without hearing the freaking news every 30 minutes followed by a raft of commercials. The actual sports content in 30 minutes of CHED air time cant be much more than 15 minutes.

 

[smokersarejokers]

I agree. CHED is a sinking ship...another go woke...go broke scenario?

In any event 630 Cheds signal reaches into the far south and north of the province. 880's doesnt.

My hope...Sportsnet takes over the 630 frequency and gets the Oilers rights.
Then we can listen to Hockey without hearing the freaking news every 30 minutes followed by a raft of commercials. The actual sports content in 30 minutes of CHED air time cant be much more than 15 minutes.

I doubt it's a going woke thing, I think radio is just dying.

If Sportsnet takes over, does that mean more Spec? Good Lord...

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

I doubt it's a going woke thing, I think radio is just dying.

If Sportsnet takes over, does that mean more Spec? Good Lord...

Gene puns every hour on the hour.

 

[guymez]

Well.

I doubt it's a going woke thing, I think radio is just dying.

If Sportsnet takes over, does that mean more Spec? Good Lord...

LOL...I hear you.
In all honesty though if more Spec means an exclusive Sports channel for Oilers hockey and no more CHED...I'm good with that.

 

[Stoneman89]

They are in a big financial mess, so not sure if somehow this frequency is cheaper or how that works. Gone from a $25 stock to a 14 cent stock.

Maybe they think that, like the Eskimos did in 2021, a refreshed name and bandwidth will somehow change their fortunes. That didn't go so well for the football team, so they should learn from that.

 

[timekeep]

They are in a big financial mess, so not sure if somehow this frequency is cheaper or how that works. Gone from a $25 stock to a 14 cent stock.

Time to buy big??

 

[bellagiobob]

Time to buy big??

I remember about 15 years years ago or so when Sirius was in a real financial bind, and their stock went from $50+ to about a dime. I bought a bunch, tripled my money really quick, but sold out way too early. So never say never.

 

[timekeep]

I remember about 15 years years ago or so when Sirius was in a real financial bind, and their stock went from $50+ to about a dime. I bought a bunch, tripled my money really quick, but sold out way too early. So never say never.

I think that Global and Network TV are going to have a hard time rebounding significantly. Streaming is the way to go.

 

[theonetheonly]

Unless they have a stronger transmitter the coverage will be worse.
Frequencies lower down on the AM band travel further distances so if the transmitter has the same wattage output as 630 then 880 wont have the same reach.
So without providing a reason for their claim that the signal coverage will be better its just a bunch of BS. Just an excuse which likely has more to do with obscuring cost cutting measures than anything else.

It reminds me of when Telus sold their email to Google. They marketed that as the best possible thing for their email users when in reality it had everything to do with selling Google their user data. There was no advantage at all to the email users but Telus did their utmost to make it look like it was all done to benefit the users.

Ready for 880 CHED? Corus moves news-talk station up from 630 on the AM dial

Corus Entertainment made the announcement about the Edmonton radio station on Wednesday.

edmontonjournal.com

This journal article says that it will provide “better city coverage" as a person in BC who gets the games in my car here I'm pretty bummed out

 

[guymez]

Ready for 880 CHED? Corus moves news-talk station up from 630 on the AM dial

Corus Entertainment made the announcement about the Edmonton radio station on Wednesday.

edmontonjournal.com

This journal article says that it will provide “better city coverage" as a person in BC who gets the games in my car here I'm pretty bummed out

I hear you.

So here are the 2 sentences that refer to 'coverage'...

“This further solidifies our commitment to providing Edmonton’s best talk, news and sports programming and we are excited to reach new listeners with this improved signal coverage.”

A press release from Corus said the move, which takes effect Oct. 9, will provide “better city coverage and an upgraded listening experience,” but will continue the current lineup of shows, featuring:

What does this even mean?

How can they improve signal coverage across the city?

You transmit a signal and your car radio receiver picks up the signal. Distance from the transmitter is the biggest determining factor in receiving a clean signal. During the day the signal distance doesnt carry as far. At night the signals carry a lot farther...stations have to cut back their power because otherwise the signal can carry into other regions where it may interfere with local staions utilizing the same or similar frequency on the AM band.

So how is it that 880 is going to improve the coverage for the city when its already well withing the range of a standard 50,000 watt transmitter? Its a reality that 880 will not carry as far as 630 so the outliying areas (like Northern and Southern Alberta and even BC) will suffer.
That certainly isnt a positive.

Are they trying to suggest that the signal will be less likely to disapppear when you drive under a bridge?

How can they provide an upgraded listening experience? What does that even mean?
The bandwidth for AM is very limited which is why FM sounds so much better.
What can they possibly do to an AM signal to improve the listening experience?

If I am off base here I sure hope that someone corrects me (its been a long time since I studied Frequency and Amplitude modulation) but on the face of it this sounds like a lot of marketing bullshit to me.

 

[abootzky]

Maybe they think that, like the Eskimos did in 2021, a refreshed name and bandwidth will somehow change their fortunes. That didn't go so well for the football team, so they should learn from that.

Terrestrial radio is is in some ways in the same boat as sports francises named after groups of people. It was a cool idea in the 1920's and for a long time after that but it's antiquated now. Whether it's for better or worse, the time for streaming is here. Homes have smart devices and Bluetooth speakers that pick up IHeart, TuneIn, etc. and vehicles come equipped with those streaming services either ready to go or easily found & activated. Fully online Edmonton Sports Talk & podcasts like The Turf District or Got Yer Back are my local go-to's (through IHeart). It's also how I now listen to Sports 1440 (without the static) and 630 CHED (in my house) even though I still own radios that can pick them up. Streaming's super-easy once you let yourself get used to it.

 

[Arty Spooners Bsmnt]

I hear you.

So here are the 2 sentences that refer to 'coverage'...


What does this even mean?

How can they improve signal coverage across the city?

You transmit a signal and your car radio receiver picks up the signal. Distance from the transmitter is the biggest determining factor in receiving a clean signal. During the day the signal distance doesnt carry as far. At night the signals carry a lot farther...stations have to cut back their power because otherwise the signal can carry into other regions where it may interfere with local staions utilizing the same or similar frequency on the AM band.

So how is it that 880 is going to improve the coverage for the city when its already well withing the range of a standard 50,000 watt transmitter? Its a reality that 880 will not carry as far as 630 so the outliying areas (like Northern and Southern Alberta and even BC) will suffer.
That certainly isnt a positive.

Are they trying to suggest that the signal will be less likely to disapppear when you drive under a bridge?

How can they provide an upgraded listening experience? What does that even mean?
The bandwidth for AM is very limited which is why FM sounds so much better.
What can they possibly do to an AM signal to improve the listening experience?

If I am off base here I sure hope that someone corrects me (its been a long time since I studied Frequency and Amplitude modulation) but on the face of it this sounds like a lot of marketing bullshit to me.

When I was a kid I would listen to Eskimo games on the radio at the lake and at 10:00 they would cut back the power and we would have a hard time hearing the game, even with Bryan Hall screaming away.

 

[guymez]

When I was a kid I would listen to Eskimo games on the radio at the lake and at 10:00 they would cut back the power and we would have a hard time hearing the game, even with Bryan Hall screaming away.

Some people would have been happy about that.

I hear what you're saying. I had a job back in the day that had me driving around the province.
In the spring (as the days grew longer) I could listen to Oilers games from the East coast with no issue. Didnt matter where I was in the province. Night was a different story.

Now with the channel change to 880 the signal wont carry near as far during the day. Many Albertans simply wont be able to listen in their car any more.
Its a shame and (with this bogus marketing) CHED is basically pissing on the listeners legs and telling them its raining.

 

[bellagiobob]

Terrestrial radio is is in some ways in the same boat as sports francises named after groups of people. It was a cool idea in the 1920's and for a long time after that but it's antiquated now. Whether it's for better or worse, the time for streaming is here. Homes have smart devices and Bluetooth speakers that pick up IHeart, TuneIn, etc. and vehicles come equipped with those streaming services either ready to go or easily found & activated. Fully online Edmonton Sports Talk & podcasts like The Turf District or Got Yer Back are my local go-to's (through IHeart). It's also how I now listen to Sports 1440 (without the static) and 630 CHED (in my house) even though I still own radios that can pick them up. Streaming's super-easy once you let yourself get used to it.

Still handy for a lot of people with radios in their vehicles. Usually one less step to simply press the AM button. CHED has always had a great signal, pretty much no interference and doesn’t cut out. Can’t say the same for streaming, with buffering issues at times.