Proposal: Edmonton - Montreal

jonlin

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Edmonton get:

Lehkonen 2,3M RFA 2022
Petry 4,25M UFA 2025 (with 2M retained by Montreal)

Montreal get:

Tyson Barrie 4,5M UFA 2024
Warren Foegele 2,75M UFA 2024
Edmonton 1st 2022
Dylan Holloway

Edmonton get a very good young RFA on a good contract in Lehkonen. He plays a good 200ft game, PK:s and can play anywhere in the lineup. Preferrable 2-3 LW. Petry is a great D, who is having a down year. Montreal retains 2M on him to fit the trade.
Montreal get a 1st and Holloway for retaining 2M on Petry and taking on Foegele and Barrie. Both are serviceable players, but a bit overpaid, thus the +:s.
 

The Moose is Loose

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Barrie/Foegele are not strict cap dumps like you’re pretending they are.
Barrie is 1 dimensional but he’s on a short term deal at a reasonable price tag, and his puck moving skills are something the Habs dcore could really use currently.
Foegele same deal- he’s not a cap dump. He’s a good bottom 6 guy who still young, great size/speed combo and is paid appropriately

The Oilers dealing away their best prospect in Holloway who will soon be in the NHL for this meager return would be foolish
 

The Gr8 Dane

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Rather shop them seperately for a better deal. Barrie and Foegele at that hit until 2024 is brutal, We have enough stinky contracts as is (see petry, gallagher). Holloway is nice though
 

jonlin

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Barrie/Foegele are not strict cap dumps like you’re pretending they are.
Barrie is 1 dimensional but he’s on a short term deal at a reasonable price tag, and his puck moving skills are something the Habs dcore could really use currently.
Foegele same deal- he’s not a cap dump. He’s a good bottom 6 guy who still young, great size/speed combo and is paid appropriately

The Oilers dealing away their best prospect in Holloway who will soon be in the NHL for this meager return would be foolish

Edmonton has MccDavid and Draisaitl at C. They are a few years from UFA. Their time to contend is now. If they want to try get all the way they have to overpay. Many players have NMC:s or NTC:s and Edmonton isnt exactly the most wanted place to go. This would give Edmonton a good shot to try contend. Petry is a pretty good upgrade on Barrie:

Kane - McDavid - Puljujärvi
Hyman - Draisaitl - Yamamoto
Lehkonen - RNH - Ryan
McLeod - Shore - Kassian

Nurse - Bouchard
Keith - Petry
Lagesson - Ceci
 

The Moose is Loose

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Edmonton has MccDavid and Draisaitl at C. They are a few years from UFA. Their time to contend is now. If they want to try get all the way they have to overpay. Many players have NMC:s or NTC:s and Edmonton isnt exactly the most wanted place to go. This would give Edmonton a good shot to try contend. Petry is a pretty good upgrade on Barrie:

Kane - McDavid - Puljujärvi
Hyman - Draisaitl - Yamamoto
Lehkonen - RNH - Ryan
McLeod - Shore - Kassian

Nurse - Bouchard
Keith - Petry
Lagesson - Ceci
They’re better off competing now with Barrie, Foegele, and Holloway in the lineup over Petry/Lehkonen

Let alone the future
 

jonlin

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They’re better off competing now with Barrie, Foegele, and Holloway in the lineup over Petry/Lehkonen

Let alone the future

They need 2-way players and Lehkonen is far and away better than Foegele and for cheaper. Barrie is a liability on the defensive end. He is a PP quarterback and decent offensively, but I think Petry is a lot better all-around D and that is lacking Edmonton. Holloway isnt even in the lineup at this time and they already have 1-3C cemented with McD, Drai and RNH. I doubt McDavid and Draisaitl sign long extensions if the team doesnt even try to contend soon. Lehkonen&Petry are exactly what lacks Edmonton.
 
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Number1RedWingsFan52

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Edmonton get:

Lehkonen 2,3M RFA 2022
Petry 4,25M UFA 2025 (with 2M retained by Montreal)

Montreal get:

Tyson Barrie 4,5M UFA 2024
Warren Foegele 2,75M UFA 2024
Edmonton 1st 2022
Dylan Holloway

Edmonton get a very good young RFA on a good contract in Lehkonen. He plays a good 200ft game, PK:s and can play anywhere in the lineup. Preferrable 2-3 LW. Petry is a great D, who is having a down year. Montreal retains 2M on him to fit the trade.
Montreal get a 1st and Holloway for retaining 2M on Petry and taking on Foegele and Barrie. Both are serviceable players, but a bit overpaid, thus the +:s.
You do understand that Petry's family left Montreal for Detroit due to Covid restrictions right? So Petry wants out of Canada period for a U.S. based team only. So he's not waiving for Edmonton which is over 2,400 miles from Detroit. his wife already said that she and the kids are staying in Michigan for the long haul. So there's no freaking way Petry is waiving to be over 2,400 miles away from his family. All Canadian teams would be on his no trade list. If they need RD help and they're close to Detroit Columbus and Pittsburgh would make the most sense.
 

TFHockey

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Edmonton get:

Lehkonen 2,3M RFA 2022
Petry 4,25M UFA 2025 (with 2M retained by Montreal)

Montreal get:

Tyson Barrie 4,5M UFA 2024
Warren Foegele 2,75M UFA 2024
Edmonton 1st 2022
Dylan Holloway

Edmonton get a very good young RFA on a good contract in Lehkonen. He plays a good 200ft game, PK:s and can play anywhere in the lineup. Preferrable 2-3 LW. Petry is a great D, who is having a down year. Montreal retains 2M on him to fit the trade.
Montreal get a 1st and Holloway for retaining 2M on Petry and taking on Foegele and Barrie. Both are serviceable players, but a bit overpaid, thus the +:s.

Wow what a brutal trade for Edmonton. You must a Habs fan.

The most glaring issue here is that somehow the Oilers are giving up a 1st AND Holloway AND Foegele AND Barrie and are getting... Jeff Petry and Lehkonen back? Good grief.

Petry isn't waiving to come back here in all likelihood.

Lehkonen is someone I have time for on the Oilers roster. We can talk about a deal for him. Just forget about Holloway or 1sts or any top end stuff.

Lastly, no one with an ounce of objectivity would ever see this as a fair trade.
 

TFHockey

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They need 2-way players and Lehkonen is far and away better than Foegele and for cheaper. Barrie is a liability on the defensive end. He is a PP quarterback and decent offensively, but I think Petry is a lot better all-around D and that is lacking Edmonton. Holloway isnt even in the lineup at this time and they already have 1-3C cemented with McD, Drai and RNH. I doubt McDavid and Draisaitl sign long extensions if the team doesnt even try to contend soon. Lehkonen&Petry are exactly what lacks Edmonton.

Here is your hottest take yet. "Holloway isn't even in the line up this year." The top prospect in the organization was hurt for months and is tearing it up in his AHL debut with five points in five games. But please continue to try and cast that as "not even in the line up yet". FFS.

And here is the piece de resistance - "I doubt McDavid and Draisaitl sign long extensions" which is code for take my crappy trade or lose McDavid!
 

ManofSteel55

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Edmonton get:

Lehkonen 2,3M RFA 2022
Petry 4,25M UFA 2025 (with 2M retained by Montreal)

Montreal get:

Tyson Barrie 4,5M UFA 2024
Warren Foegele 2,75M UFA 2024
Edmonton 1st 2022
Dylan Holloway

Edmonton get a very good young RFA on a good contract in Lehkonen. He plays a good 200ft game, PK:s and can play anywhere in the lineup. Preferrable 2-3 LW. Petry is a great D, who is having a down year. Montreal retains 2M on him to fit the trade.
Montreal get a 1st and Holloway for retaining 2M on Petry and taking on Foegele and Barrie. Both are serviceable players, but a bit overpaid, thus the +:s.

Take out Holloway and the 1st and I'm still not overly interested. Horrible value, especially when you consider that Petry hated it in Edmonton.

Come back with an offer for Barrie in the summer if we still have him though. He'd be a massive upgrade on your RD and your powerplay.
 

Ledge And Dairy

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Edmonton has MccDavid and Draisaitl at C. They are a few years from UFA. Their time to contend is now. If they want to try get all the way they have to overpay. Many players have NMC:s or NTC:s and Edmonton isnt exactly the most wanted place to go. This would give Edmonton a good shot to try contend. Petry is a pretty good upgrade on Barrie:

Kane - McDavid - Puljujärvi
Hyman - Draisaitl - Yamamoto
Lehkonen - RNH - Ryan
McLeod - Shore - Kassian

Nurse - Bouchard
Keith - Petry
Lagesson - Ceci
Why are you under this weird impression that Petry has more value than Barrie? Both have been equally bad this year and both are on the wrong side of 30. Lehkonen is not particularly better than Foegele either.

Regardless of your proposal being completely biased there is no chance Petry would ever waive to western Canada so it's completely moot
 

ManofSteel55

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Edmonton has MccDavid and Draisaitl at C. They are a few years from UFA. Their time to contend is now. If they want to try get all the way they have to overpay. Many players have NMC:s or NTC:s and Edmonton isnt exactly the most wanted place to go. This would give Edmonton a good shot to try contend. Petry is a pretty good upgrade on Barrie:

Kane - McDavid - Puljujärvi
Hyman - Draisaitl - Yamamoto
Lehkonen - RNH - Ryan
McLeod - Shore - Kassian

Nurse - Bouchard
Keith - Petry
Lagesson - Ceci
The way Petry has played this year, he wouldn't be pushing Ceci down the lineup.
 

ManofSteel55

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Why are you under this weird impression that Petry has more value than Barrie? Both have been equally bad this year and both are on the wrong side of 30. Lehkonen is not particularly better than Foegele either.

Regardless of your proposal being completely biased there is no chance Petry would ever waive to western Canada so it's completely moot
No kidding. Petry is underperforming and is a UFA. Barrie struggled for a bit this year too, but not consistently like Petry.

Edit - not sure why I thought Petry was a UFA. Ugh, no deal.
 

Macheteops

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Edmonton get:

Lehkonen 2,3M RFA 2022
Petry 4,25M UFA 2025 (with 2M retained by Montreal)

Montreal get:

Tyson Barrie 4,5M UFA 2024
Warren Foegele 2,75M UFA 2024
Edmonton 1st 2022
Dylan Holloway

Edmonton get a very good young RFA on a good contract in Lehkonen. He plays a good 200ft game, PK:s and can play anywhere in the lineup. Preferrable 2-3 LW. Petry is a great D, who is having a down year. Montreal retains 2M on him to fit the trade.
Montreal get a 1st and Holloway for retaining 2M on Petry and taking on Foegele and Barrie. Both are serviceable players, but a bit overpaid, thus the +:s.

Hard pass I’m sure from the Oilers
 

jonlin

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Lehkonen is not particularly better than Foegele either.

Not? Cheaper, better 200ft, produces more, RFA etc. He and Toffoli actually are the only bright spots in Montreal this season. Go check his underlying stats and charts and it should be quite clear he is heads and shoulders better than Foegele, who has regressed for 3yrs now.
 

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