Speculation: EDM Trades

[TFHockey]

Most posters thought a deal of Pettersson for Elias Pettersson (the young dman) and a 2nd was fair value.

Beau + 2nd? I'm not too familair with that Beau so I don't know how he comes to a guy like Pettersson. Basically, a decent prospect + 2nd. Or the equivalent of 2 2nds. This is based on recent trades for guys like Chiarot and Tanev.

I could see the Oilers doing this.

 

[Tahoeblue]

Adam Pelech??? LHD has a lot of term and some trade protection. Just spitballin on this one. I like the player and can certainly root for the Oilers.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Adam Pelech??? LHD has a lot of term and some trade protection. Just spitballin on this one. I like the player and can certainly root for the Oilers.

I think Edmonton has to consider Pelech as well if he would waive his NTC, depending on cost. Has he ever played right side? Its looking more and more like the best option is to grab a LD and play either Kulak or the new LD on Nurse's right side.

 

[Cup or Bust]

Looks like Noah Philp has been called up so this might be his shot to establish himself as their 4th line center for the rest of this season. Would be great if he could check off that need, he certainly has the tools to do it.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Looks like Noah Philp has been called up so this might be his shot to establish himself as their 4th line center for the rest of this season. Would be great if he could check off that need, he certainly has the tools to do it.

Yeah, it seems that this is the trial run for him, so they know if they need to trade for a 4C or not.

 

[SwedishFire]

Oilers has a 4C in the house. You dont trade for 4th line guys. Thats absurd. If they doesnt come in for a loeer round draftpick.
Oilers should also just trade Jeff skinner if he cant even challange for a roosterspot considering Nuge is falling of and Connor Brown playing top 6. No. Trade now.

Skinner may not be an elite goalie, but for the fin of the game, teams with a borderline good goalie has won before, such as Kuemper.

What oilesrs should do is to fond a physichal punishing D who can play in with Nurse and fill in besides Kulak when needed to complete Emberson dependong on his form

I belive that Emberson could be that 4th D some day, but not the exact answer right right now.

Trade Stetcher and Skinner to clear out money, get in a RD for draftpicks.

 

[TheNumber4]

Oilers has a 4C in the house. You dont trade for 4th line guys. Thats absurd. If they doesnt come in for a loeer round draftpick.
Oilers should also just trade Jeff skinner if he cant even challange for a roosterspot considering Nuge is falling of and Connor Brown playing top 6. No. Trade now.

Skinner may not be an elite goalie, but for the fin of the game, teams with a borderline good goalie has won before, such as Kuemper.

What oilesrs should do is to fond a physichal punishing D who can play in with Nurse and fill in besides Kulak when needed to complete Emberson dependong on his form

I belive that Emberson could be that 4th D some day, but not the exact answer right right now.

Trade Stetcher and Skinner to clear out money, get in a RD for draftpicks.

I think that’s a really good point. You should be able to draft, develop, or sign these guys every off season. Maybe even keep your eye on the waiver wire. Spending draft capital in trades for these guys mid season isn’t optimal asset management.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Oilers has a 4C in the house. You dont trade for 4th line guys. Thats absurd. If they doesnt come in for a loeer round draftpick.
Oilers should also just trade Jeff skinner if he cant even challange for a roosterspot considering Nuge is falling of and Connor Brown playing top 6. No. Trade now.

Skinner may not be an elite goalie, but for the fin of the game, teams with a borderline good goalie has won before, such as Kuemper.

What oilesrs should do is to fond a physichal punishing D who can play in with Nurse and fill in besides Kulak when needed to complete Emberson dependong on his form

I belive that Emberson could be that 4th D some day, but not the exact answer right right now.

Trade Stetcher and Skinner to clear out money, get in a RD for draftpicks.

I think a lot of the "trade for a 4C" talk started while we weren't sure if they were going to give Philp a chance on the big team. Now that he's been called up and we know nobody is injured, its apparent that they are giving him a chance to take the 4C spot.

J. Skinner has a no trade clause. I'm sure he would take a trade to another contending team, but would a team he would want to go to take him? It would be basically dumping his salary as well, he won't have much value in trade, so unless we are replacing him with another play of equal cap hit, there's not much point to trading him.

Trading Stecher doesn't make a difference to our money situation. We can clear more money by sending Josh Brown to Bakersfield. Stecher is a fine press box guy to come in if injuries arise.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

I believe there an argument to swing for a top 4 defenseman.
There also an argument to swing for a impactful goalie.

Spending our resources on a forward, especially for a bottom 6 spot is ridiculous.

 

[SwedishFire]

I think a lot of the "trade for a 4C" talk started while we weren't sure if they were going to give Philp a chance on the big team. Now that he's been called up and we know nobody is injured, its apparent that they are giving him a chance to take the 4C spot.

J. Skinner has a no trade clause. I'm sure he would take a trade to another contending team, but would a team he would want to go to take him? It would be basically dumping his salary as well, he won't have much value in trade, so unless we are replacing him with another play of equal cap hit, there's not much point to trading him.

Trading Stecher doesn't make a difference to our money situation. We can clear more money by sending Josh Brown to Bakersfield. Stecher is a fine press box guy to come in if injuries arise.

Jeff Skinner is a HoSang type of player, really. Streethockey style. He has minus stats almost every season in NHL, and the record of playoff drought. No wonder, he has no such place on a playoff team. On a team that goes to playoff, Skinner isnt a winger. Maybe the 6th winger. Such a weird career.

 

[thadd]

Edmonton doesn't have assets to make any huge moves.

Right now I'm thinking we maybe get Marcus Petterson in a trade, and then sign Jonathan Toews.

If we add anyone else to the team, it likely forces us to put someone on waivers whom we would rather hold onto and likely loose.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Edmonton doesn't have assets to make any huge moves.

Right now I'm thinking we maybe get Marcus Petterson in a trade, and then sign Jonathan Toews.

If we add anyone else to the team, it likely forces us to put someone on waivers whom we would rather hold onto and likely loose.

Brown would clear. Philip can go down. Ryan would clear. Only Philp might be good enough for this team in the playoffs right now. We can add 3 upgrades, until Kane is ready to return. The only other guy we would like to clear out can't be moved. It still means we can bring in an upgrade at 2D, like Peterrson, and an upgrade on Pickard, who likely clears at this point.

I'm skeptical about Toews ever being able to return. I'm just hoping that Philp adjusts so we don't need to worry about 4C.

 

[thadd]

Brown would clear. Philip can go down. Ryan would clear. Only Philp might be good enough for this team in the playoffs right now. We can add 3 upgrades, until Kane is ready to return. The only other guy we would like to clear out can't be moved. It still means we can bring in an upgrade at 2D, like Peterrson, and an upgrade on Pickard, who likely clears at this point.

I'm skeptical about Toews ever being able to return. I'm just hoping that Philp adjusts so we don't need to worry about 4C.

I can't disagree with anything you've written.

 

[bucks_oil]

Definitely not “unexpected” news about Kane.

The whole hockey world knew these surgeries were strategically planned

???

There wasn't a peep on the knee surgery until it actually happened. We'd been expecting him back in February.

It now certainly looks like a "maintenance" knee surgery was strategically scheduled, but it was definitely news as of last week.

Plus... if Oiler management knew that Kane was out until the playoffs, why didn't they match at least one of Broberg or Holloway? Holloway for certain was in their plans and literally the only logical reason they let him walk is that it allowed them to run $950K below the cap and accrue money for the deadline to acquire a D to replace Broberg.

If Kane was known to be out, there is ZERO chance the Oilers would have let Holloway walk.... Broberg (who was a malcontent and signed for so much more) they may still have let go, I'm 50:50 on that.

 

[Czechboy]

I maintiain that Kane on line 4 or 3 playing 10 to 12 a night after a year off would be a tremendous bottom 6 player in playoffs. For bottom 6 he needs to be mean, tough and big. He has all that in Spades. Sure, the skating and shooting and timing will be hard but we're talking bottom 6. That is a luxury!

Maybe Philp sticks?

2RD - prioritize this. We have 5 million in cap and cap space is an asset too.

Still fine with Stu but I want another 'stu' on the bench - upgrade Pickard at TDL with a UFA goalie on a non playoff team.

This is win now mode... lost some assets, lose some picks. Just once I want to look at my top 6 and top 4 and think we have 10 guys that can compete. We are currently at 9.

Not worried about the forwards one lick.

Skinner is inconvenient and a bad signing but it's not the end of the world and he can score. He's not going anywhere. No playoff team is looking to take on 3M of cap for Skinner into a playoff run. He needed to stick with Drai or McD and hasn't.

I will say, I was wrong about Podz.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I’m still going to hold out hope Skinner can be moved. He’s not playing and if that continues he will probably want out just to play. He’s a pending UFA. This is killing his value right now and I’m certain that isn’t lost on him. I think as the deadline approaches Skinners list of teams will include bubble teams.

What’s better for him July 1st should be on his mind. The Oilers press box isn’t going to be it.

I’d do the 2nd + Akey for Pettersson. Prob add a later pick just to make sure it’s done.

 

[Czechboy]

I’m still going to hold out hope Skinner can be moved. He’s not playing and if that continues he will probably want out just to play. He’s a pending UFA. This is killing his value right now and I’m certain that isn’t lost on him. I think as the deadline approaches Skinners list of teams will include bubble teams.

What’s better for him July 1st should be on his mind. The Oilers press box isn’t going to be it.

I’d do the 2nd + Akey for Pettersson. Prob add a later pick just to make sure it’s done.

It's a good point.. if he's looking at July 1st.. he's f***ed right now. He's not coming back to Edmonton. He'd be looking at PTO, 2 way or 1million contracts 1 way on a non playoff team. Or Europe.

I feel bad for him to be honest. Imagine he finally gets on a playoff team and then doesn't get a signle playoff game in because he's a healthy scratch? And he has competition for a playoff spot.. Kane coming back, Ryan isn't terrible, Philp may be good and Savoie in the minors is heating up and may get a look. And he NEEDS to be top 6.

FTR.. giving him a NMC after being a buyout is hillariously bad.

 

[hockeyguy0022]

I'd get Thompson out of Washington asap if he's for sale. 775K this year... you have to pay next year, but that's a cup away!

 

[Empoleon8771]

Most posters thought a deal of Pettersson for Elias Pettersson (the young dman) and a 2nd was fair value.

Beau + 2nd? I'm not too familair with that Beau so I don't know how he comes to a guy like Pettersson. Basically, a decent prospect + 2nd. Or the equivalent of 2 2nds. This is based on recent trades for guys like Chiarot and Tanev.

I would actually add on to this a bit, would Edmonton do Kulak, Akey/Jarventie and a 2nd for Pettersson and O'Connor? I think the Penguins likely need a LD replacement for Pettersson and I could see O'Connor adding some positive value to the Oilers as well.

I also vaguely recall reading that the Oilers are interested in both Pettersson and O'Connor, but I may be misremembering that with O'Connor.

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

Is there a particular reason that you feel like Derek Ryan isn't working out for that 4C faceoff role?

He is pretty much washed out now. Just not fast or big enough at his age to be effective as an everyday player. Great guy to have around though.

 

[ManByng]

We really, really don't want Ceci back. At any price.
Priority 4: Calvin Pickard upgrade
I think management is set with Skinner, even if fans aren't. We need to upgrade Pickard though.

NO to Ceci !! And the Oilers are not going to waste cap space on a goalie as they appear to be willing to live or die with Skinner/Picard for now!

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I would actually add on to this a bit, would Edmonton do Kulak, Akey/Jarventie and a 2nd for Pettersson and O'Connor? I think the Penguins likely need a LD replacement for Pettersson and I could see O'Connor adding some positive value to the Oilers as well.

I also vaguely recall reading that the Oilers are interested in both Pettersson and O'Connor, but I may be misremembering that with O'Connor.

We won't move Kulak. He's playing like a top 4 D himself. The idea behind adding Pettersson is to keep Kulak to anchor the 3rd pairing.

Right now we have the opportunity to see what we have in Klingberg. I assume a #7D but he could surprise. I still hope we target another top 4D, the only D guy I'd see us moving is Josh Brown and he's waiver fodder. If you wanted a warm body back in the deal you can take him. I'm indifferent to adding O'Connor he can be removed, I'd personally focus on Pettersson on our end.

 

[TFHockey]

We won't move Kulak. He's playing like a top 4 D himself. The idea behind adding Pettersson is to keep Kulak to anchor the 3rd pairing.

Right now we have the opportunity to see what we have in Klingberg. I assume a #7D but he could surprise. I still hope we target another top 4D, the only D guy I'd see us moving is Josh Brown and he's waiver fodder. If you wanted a warm body back in the deal you can take him. I'm indifferent to adding O'Connor he can be removed, I'd personally focus on Pettersson on our end.

Pettersson would be a great add on the back end.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Pettersson would be a great add on the back end.

I agree, especially if we can do it around Akey +2nd (as someone suggested) with maybe a small add.

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Pettersson
Kulak - Emberson
Stecher - Klingberg

Lots of options here in both the 2nd and 3rd pairing. Kulak could be with Nurse and Pettersson could anchor the 3rd pair. If Klingberg looks good we have a option to sit a young guy like Emberson for him and roll a very veteran D core outside Bouchard. Klingberg in this situation likely see 2nd unit PP time. Either way that's 8 NHL D and if Klingberg looks bad he's depth if he looks good we have Emberson as #7 and he's been playing really well. I'd feel pretty confident with this group. Stecher is a good option for a 7/8 D and I like that it takes Josh Brown out of the equation.