Confirmed Trade: [EDM/STL] Paul Fischer, '28 3rd for future considerations

[LTIR]

Makes sense, curious to see what they do now.
They traded Ceci and let go of Broberg. I'm sure they have another deal for a defender.

Oilers have Ekholm, Nurse and Kulak for LD already. Broberg wasn't a regular NHLer last year. Ceci was a punching bag of these boards and everyone wanted him gone.
Oilers can go with the right side D of Bouchard, Stecher, Emerson and Brown to start the season and cruise to a 100pt+ season. They will add someone at trade deadline for playoffs.

 

[ToDavid]

Feels like a bit of a bluff from the Oilers. If they're willing to walk away from these players for a mediocre prospect and a 3rd 100 years from now, I really doubt they had any intention of matching.

As much as I hate it, I think the Oilers dealt with this whole situation pretty well. I guess it will come down to whether Holloway and Broberg are the real deal or not.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Who is Paul ? A potential NHLer?

Paul is the guy we paid after robbing Peter.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Paul Fischer is a nice prospect, certainly better than you expect from a 5th rounder. Not going to be a top pairing guy or whatever but he definitely has NHL upside.

We're stacked with LD's in our pipeline though, so I guess he was redundant.

3 Years away from the AHL

 

[Beauterham]

3 Years away from the AHL

Depends on how he develops, but I'd say 2 years to AHL, 3/4 NHL?

 

[North Cole]

I guess it’s something. But it seems weak from the Oilers to say “we’ve made these moves so we can match Broberg, who is a key piece for us this year…unless you give us a 5th round college guy and a 3rd in 4 years”?

It’s hard to fathom that should be the difference between matching and not matching when you’ve already traded another blueliner who was getting top four minutes last year…seemingly to make the space to keep the other guy.

As a “threat” mechanism…I don’t see how the juice is worth the squeeze from the Oilers side.

Ceci is someone we didn't want anyways and was needing to be gone. The juice is always worth the squeeze. Rather get extra picks for making a good decision than Kyle Dubas school of, 'I don't want your 7th for a player I already lost'.

 

[trick9]

What the hell is this?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Depends on how he develops, but I'd say 2 years to AHL, 3/4 NHL?

He is uni right now

 

[ManofSteel55]

Who is Paul ? A potential NHLer?

He's a 19 year old NCAA player. Way too early to tell.

 

[Spilot23]

 

[Jacob]

My guess is the Oilers were 50/50 on matching one of the offer sheets and were in active discussion with STL on it, and at some point they agreed to incentivize no offer sheet with a marginal prospect and mid-round pick.

Maybe even just a good-faith offer by STL.

 

[Satan]

Paul Fischer sounds like a made up EA NHL player. I had to Google him to make sure he exists.

the sim went crazy with this one

 

[SEALBound]

So do I understand this timeline and situation correctly:

1. STL offer sheets both Holloway and Broberg
2. EDM sweats it out trying to find a taker for Ceci or Kulak.
3. EDM pays a 3rd to SJS to take Ceci and that opens up just enough room to match either offer sheet but not both.
4. STL says "hey, we want both, we will give you Fischer and a 3rd to not match"
5. EDM agrees and doesn't match, STL gets both, EDM gets the draft picks.

Is that pretty much what happened here?

 

[herzausstein]

So... Edm gets a 3rd to take an unsigned 2023 5th round draft pick who is playing in the NCAA? So this is direct payment to not match (along with the 2nd and 3rd theyll receive for the offersheet).

 

[Mike Jones]

When I saw Ceci go out the door I actually thought the Oilers were going to match Broberg's offer sheet.

 

[leeroggy]

I'm guessing Edmonton has a few D UFA's as one-year stop-gaps at $1million on their radar . . .

Shattenkirk
Schultz
Scandella
Barrie

 

[Jacob]

So do I understand this timeline and situation correctly:

1. STL offer sheets both Holloway and Broberg
2. EDM sweats it out trying to find a taker for Ceci or Kulak.
3. EDM pays a 3rd to SJS to take Ceci and that opens up just enough room to match either offer sheet but not both.
4. STL says "hey, we want both, we will give you Fischer and a 3rd to not match"
5. EDM agrees and doesn't match, STL gets both, EDM gets the draft picks.

Is that pretty much what happened here?

Yeah so it basically becomes a trade for 2 RFAs that Edmonton probably couldn't keep both of and apparently believe that at least 1 of the 2 is internally replaceable.

 

[CanadienShark]

Uhh what?

Ah, payment for declining to match.

 

[leeroggy]

Feels like a bit of a bluff from the Oilers. If they're willing to walk away from these players for a mediocre prospect and a 3rd 100 years from now, I really doubt they had any intention of matching.

As much as I hate it, I think the Oilers dealt with this whole situation pretty well. I guess it will come down to whether Holloway and Broberg are the real deal or not.

I like Broberg a lot more than Holloway . . . I don't have a dog in this fight

 

[KingPuckChoo]

Ah the world is theater my friends, it's all just bread and circuses

 

[SomeDude]

So St. Louis is going to end up essentially trading:

Paul Fischer
2025 2nd
2025 3rd
2025 3rd (to Pens to get their 2nd back)
2028 3rd

For:
Dylan Holloway
Philip Broberg
2026 5th (from Pens to get their 2nd back)

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

If this deal was sweetener for Oilers to not match you can't really attack Bowman for taking it especially if he already had no plan to match

Gain another prospect and pick out of situation for bank

IMO Bowman handled this situation well

 

[Jared Dunn]

The apology trade! Love it

 

[TGWL]

I believe Blues were sitting on 49 contracts when you remove the juniors 18/19 year olds, so they had to part with somebody.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Feels like a bit of a bluff from the Oilers. If they're willing to walk away from these players for a mediocre prospect and a 3rd 100 years from now, I really doubt they had any intention of matching.

As much as I hate it, I think the Oilers dealt with this whole situation pretty well. I guess it will come down to whether Holloway and Broberg are the real deal or not.

They dealt with the aftermath fine I guess, but they're in this situation because they slacked on doing their business, could have signed both these players to literally half what they got if they were willing to move on from Ceci anyways. Broberg loss hurts imo