Mike Jones
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It helps protect relationships going forward.The apology trade! Love it
It helps protect relationships going forward.The apology trade! Love it
Not all prospects but Gleason, Dineen, Wanner, Kemp and longshot AkeyThe Oilers have to be pivoting to another D move, right?
LH - Ekholm, Nurse, Kulak
RH - Bouchard, Stecher, Emberson, Brown
Any prospects who can make a push?
So do I understand this timeline and situation correctly:
1. STL offer sheets both Holloway and Broberg
2. EDM sweats it out trying to find a taker for Ceci or Kulak.
3. EDM pays a 3rd to SJS to take Ceci and that opens up just enough room to match either offer sheet but not both.
4. STL says "hey, we want both, we will give you Fischer and a 3rd to not match"
5. EDM agrees and doesn't match, STL gets both, EDM gets the draft picks.
Is that pretty much what happened here?
I guess it’s something. But it seems weak from the Oilers to say “we’ve made these moves so we can match Broberg, who is a key piece for us this year…unless you give us a 5th round college guy and a 3rd in 4 years”?
Feels like a bit of a bluff from the Oilers. If they're willing to walk away from these players for a mediocre prospect and a 3rd 100 years from now, I really doubt they had any intention of matching.
As much as I hate it, I think the Oilers dealt with this whole situation pretty well. I guess it will come down to whether Holloway and Broberg are the real deal or not.
Consolation prize in Paul Fischer, although I like him a lot.
But the 3rd? lol
In the hands of Edmonton, that pick is as good as trash.
But the Oilers never said that. That’s just what people assumed.
Absolutely. I think this shows they didn’t have any intention of matching.
So Edmonton won't match Broberg and they shipped out Ceci with a draft pick?
An already suspect defensive corps only gets worse.
The Oilers have to be pivoting to another D move, right?
LH - Ekholm, Nurse, Kulak
RH - Bouchard, Stecher, Emberson, Brown
Any prospects who can make a push?
Think it's more likely an in-season trade. Can add a much more expensive player closer to the TDL with retention than they could add now if they expect Kane back during the season.The Oilers have to be pivoting to another D move, right?
LH - Ekholm, Nurse, Kulak
RH - Bouchard, Stecher, Emberson, Brown
Any prospects who can make a push?
Broberg wasn't exactly a key piece. They were going to give him the opportunity to see if he could be a key piece on the 2nd pairing as a trial run before the trade deadline, but matching this offer sheet now means you have to hope he is that piece because you can't trade him and you have no cap space to upgrade on him if he isn't. Oilers lose out on value here, but they avoid backing themselves into a corner that ultimately could have derailed any of their cup aspirations this year.I guess it’s something. But it seems weak from the Oilers to say “we’ve made these moves so we can match Broberg, who is a key piece for us this year…unless you give us a 5th round college guy and a 3rd in 4 years”?
It’s hard to fathom that should be the difference between matching and not matching when you’ve already traded another blueliner who was getting top four minutes last year…seemingly to make the space to keep the other guy.
As a “threat” mechanism…I don’t see how the juice is worth the squeeze from the Oilers side.
Think it's more likely an in-season trade. Can add a much more expensive player closer to the TDL with retention than they could add now if they expect Kane back during the season.
I think 3 years of Ceci probably shows he could. Ceci isn't a true #4, more like a #5. Imo the regular season is largely not on their radar given the group they have at forward. They should be able to outscore any of their regular season problems and make a decision later in the year.That crossed my mind. Maybe a guy like Emberson proves he can suffice as a #4 in the meantime.
So St. Louis is going to end up essentially trading:
Paul Fischer
2025 2nd
2025 3rd
2025 3rd (to Pens to get their 2nd back)
2028 3rd
For:
Dylan Holloway
Philip Broberg
2026 5th (from Pens to get their 2nd back)
yep this is a crystalline example of blues and oilers part of a vast conspiracy to just entertainAh the world is theater my friends, it's all just bread and circuses
They still gave the Pens a 2nd in 2026 to replace the one they got back for taking on Hayes which I didn’t include on my list. They literally had to pay to get it back to make the offers. Why would you not account for that?you are not an accountant. they either paid their second or they paid the assets they paid to reacquire their second but not both.
so a 2nd, two 3rds and, apparently, a b or c prospect.
also, both players are overpaid with high qo's compared to a normal trade scenario. since a significant part of the value of contract controlled players is the ability to pay them less this weights in the balance.
i don't actually like broberg but i think holloway is decent. this is to me a bad move by the blues.
In the end these are free assets for Edmonton. STL didn't really have to give them up along with the 2nd + 3rd they gave up as compensationConsolation prize in Paul Fischer, although I like him a lot.
But the 3rd? lol
In the hands of Edmonton, that pick is as good as trash.