Confirmed Trade: [EDM/SJS] Jake Walman for Carl Berglund, 2026 1st round pick

[Pinkfloyd]

I think the timing is weird considering Walman's been the Sharks' best D man, is not impacting the tank this season, and is signed through next season at a fair price. You bring up a fair point with the packaging but again, I don't want this team to be in rebuild mode forever. Teams like the Oilers (of old) and the Blackhawks (of now) have highlighted the importance of insulating your young, franchise players with solid veterans and actually putting some wins together.

If we want to get out of rebuilding mode, Walman can't be our #1. At that point, best case scenario is that he's a solid 2nd pairing guy with a year left. Is that guy worth passing up a late 1st round pick? This is when we will have decent odds of developing a 2nd pairing LHD in the next year or two. As for Walman's veteran status, yeah he's got a good chunk of NHL games to his credit but he's been in one playoff game. This chance for him in Edmonton is where he gets to show he knows how to contribute to a winning team. I think the team is fine with what they have to insulate the younger players. We picked up Desharnais who has about 50 less games than Walman did when he started here but with substantially more playoff experience. I don't think whatever losing happens between now and the end of the season will have some lasting impact on the young players. As bad as it may be, they're still trending towards being slightly better than last season while being much younger and with a lot more room to grow.

 

[bossram]

Trust the #Yzerplan. Master GM Yzerman.

LMAO.

 

[Nemesis Prime]

Weird rebuttal. Wings just had a coaching change since then are the hottest team in the entire NHL.

Yzerman fixed two issues:
- Traded away cancer (Walman) while not losing a pick - freebie/throw in from upgrading to a better prospect trade.
- Hired a great coach (TM most likely wins coach of the year if DRWs make the playoffs)

Nah, the cancer is still on his team. Even wears a C to show for it.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

If we want to get out of rebuilding mode, Walman can't be our #1. At that point, best case scenario is that he's a solid 2nd pairing guy with a year left. Is that guy worth passing up a late 1st round pick? This is when we will have decent odds of developing a 2nd pairing LHD in the next year or two. As for Walman's veteran status, yeah he's got a good chunk of NHL games to his credit but he's been in one playoff game. This chance for him in Edmonton is where he gets to show he knows how to contribute to a winning team. I think the team is fine with what they have to insulate the younger players. We picked up Desharnais who has about 50 less games than Walman did when he started here but with substantially more playoff experience. I don't think whatever losing happens between now and the end of the season will have some lasting impact on the young players. As bad as it may be, they're still trending towards being slightly better than last season while being much younger and with a lot more room to grow.

The other thing is the 1st might get you a better player at the draft when teams are looking to clear cap space & make moves with their roster.

I'd bet SJ will pick, but even if they want to trade it for a player they could come out ahead.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

The other thing is the 1st might get you a better player at the draft when teams are looking to clear cap space & make moves with their roster.

I'd bet SJ will pick, but even if they want to trade it for a player they could come out ahead.

It gives Grier options. It's going to depend on how much confidence he will have in the younger players coming up through the system.

 

[LTIR]

Bouchard is RHD and has a much longer and extensive track record of production, no brainer he'd get more

Walman isn't going to command 6M+ .
Bouchard probably wants 9+

 

[dmcccdmn]

OMG, I'm losing my mind right now. Grier magically came up with a 1st and a 2nd round pick out of thin air?!

This right here is the best move of Grier's career.

 

[dmcccdmn]

So SJ acquired him and a literally nothing, and then turned around and got a 1st for him.

Master class GM work.

Not only that, but Grier got him AND a 2nd round pick for nothing. I can't even begin to imagine how the phone conversation went. "Help me help you?"

 

[Lukin1978]

Remind me again why Yzerman traded him to San Jose for nothing?

 

[joestevens29]

And? Ceci was an utter failure as a top 4 RD. Kulak has at least put up a solid stretch of it.


They almost won a cup with Ceci as their 2RD who was downright atrocious in that

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Heck of a job by Grier here. He played the original trade and the deadline perfectly.

 

[hirawl]

Mike Grier is very very good at his job. The future looks great in San Jose. Askarov might opt for a welding helmet as his mask. So bright baby.

 

[MessierThanThou]

I’m cautiously optimistic here. Sounds like he could be like last year’s Nurse…or Bouchard-lite.

 

[MessierThanThou]

Why is it a yes/no question? Because you say so?

Why isn’t Walmart going to play his offside or Nurse (who was the D playing RD when Kulak moved up)

You are inventing a false narrative to be angry about. Zero fact or data to support your rage… you need to calm yourself

He doesn’t sound angry dude.

I played hockey tonight dipshit… against and with ex-pros in their early thirties.

LOL. You must’ve been projecting because you sound like the angry one, probable head injuries probably don’t help…

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Weird rebuttal. Wings just had a coaching change since then are the hottest team in the entire NHL.

5 losses in a row now.

Red hot.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

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[Empoleon8771]

Isn't Mike Grier just as bad then? Why would he double down and trade this guy.

Probably because he's not as good as people proclaimed

Because he got paid a 1st rounder to do that.

Yzerman paid San Jose a 2nd to take Walman, then Grier traded Walman for a 1st. Yzerman looks like an absolute moron for how this went.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Because he got paid a 1st rounder to do that.

Yzerman paid San Jose a 2nd to take Walman, then Grier traded Walman for a 1st. Yzerman looks like an absolute moron for how this went.

True, realized right before you responded.

 

[Dotter]

5 losses in a row now.

Red hot.

*hot since christmas.
- outplaying opponents but still losing. Riveting stuff! meh, welcome to the life of hockey.

I assume you have no life outside the internet to come on a random message forum to bump a thread only to gloat and rejoice over a 5 game skid. What a miserable life one must lead.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Oilers basically paid the same price Leafs did for Carlo. Why would they not get Carlo who is a better fit for what they need?

 

[TheBeard]

Oilers basically paid the same price Leafs did for Carlo. Why would they not get Carlo who is a better fit for what they need?

Edmonton didn’t give up a good prospect as well.

 

[La Bamba]

Oilers basically paid the same price Leafs did for Carlo. Why would they not get Carlo who is a better fit for what they need?

The only thing that would make Carlo a better fit is being a right shot. Walman is a better player and has a good contract.

Oilers also paid a lower price

 

[HockeyVirus]

The only thing that would make Carlo a better fit is being a right shot. Walman is a better player and has a good contract.

Oilers also paid a lower price

Not true. Carlo is a defensive dman RD which is what the Oilers need. Not another offensive LD. Better player is to be determined..

 

[FlameChampion]

I've always suspected that the Sharks getting Walman + 2nd (inexplicably good value for SJ) was somehow connected to the Sharks also picking up Goodrow from waivers (inexplicably bad value for SJ) related to (in effect) circumventing Goodrow's NTC. I don't quite see a connection between Yzerman, Drury, and Grier, but, I don't think Yzerman is stupid and one has to assume there is some extra info we are not privy too (be it Goodrow related or not).

I was under impression that Yzerman was dumping money to trade for Trouba. But then Trouba didn’t waive. Either way, Yzerman completely failed. So many of the D he has signed or traded for have been abysmal. He’s lucky he drafted Seider and Edvinsson.

 

[Czechboy]

Oilers basically paid the same price Leafs did for Carlo. Why would they not get Carlo who is a better fit for what they need?

Carlo is RD isn't he? Because, if so, he's exactly what I wanted.