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I mean that’s probably part of the reason why that guy is no longer GM here.Maybe they can direct it towards the guy who gave Nurse and Campbell their terrible contracts.
I mean that’s probably part of the reason why that guy is no longer GM here.Maybe they can direct it towards the guy who gave Nurse and Campbell their terrible contracts.
Don’t think the Hawks resented Nik Hjalmarsson when he did it back in 2010. It’s a business, as long as Broberg holds up his end of the deal and keeps developing into a solid dman I don’t think anyone in the room will care.I know people are saying that their teammates will understand that it’s a business and harbour no ill will towards them, but if the Oilers do end up matching both players, you’d have to believe there would be at least some resentment over their decisions costing a popular locker room guy in Ceci.
Yes, agreed. I wouldn't be shocked if there was another move coming so that they can qualify Holloway too but in 48 hours we'll know for sure.
These moves show you how determined clubs are to defend their RFA's and why offer sheets are rarely issued.
The Blues made a statement to the league about RFA's last week and said "hey what are you going to do about it" and today the Oilers made a statement to the league as well and said "there's what we'll do about it." The league will take notice of both statements but I think the latter might be more poignant in terms of how the NHL works.
The players actively asked Holland to keep Ceci, from all reports.Don’t think the Hawks resented Nik Hjalmarsson when he did it back in 2010. It’s a business, as long as Broberg holds up his end of the deal and keeps developing into a solid dman I don’t think anyone in the room will care.
He was a great pick up for them. Unfortunately he had injury issues. I’m kind of surprised they moved him.Embersons numbers weren’t great but compared to his team mates…. Could be a diamond in the rough here.
Emberson might be better at this point than either Barrie or Schultz.Keeping Broberg then it looks like. I think Barrie or Schultz could be back too.
I agree.Yup. Even the Oilers keeping Broberg (and these tidy trades to make that happen) should be enough to dissuade offersheets from “becoming a thing”. Especially trying to be the ‘smartest man in the room’ by overpaying two players to try to get just one (and ending up with the one you didn’t really care about at an inflated contract).
He did that in his rookie season. Not bad at all. He’s only a year older than Broberg so there is also room for growth.I'm pretty happy with this outcome, his stats in bottom team are actually pretty good 1.5 blk and 3 hits per game and played 18:33 and had only -4.
He was the best player the oilers ever had in dames where he score to win the series though.St. Louis is now my second favorite NHL team for forcing them to do this.
Cody Ceci was, and I don't think I'm even exaggerating, one of the single most disastrous players the Oilers organization has EVER had (result relative to ice-time in a winning season being my criteria).
If you think that's bad, you should check out Reddit (don't actually). The geniuses over there were getting giddy making scenarios of the Oilers giving up multiple 1st round picks to move Ceci and Kulak.The fact that the mains hate this trade is probably a good thing.
I can’t speak of popularity in the room but that offer sheet directly cost the Hawks Antti Niemi who was their starting goalie on their 2010 cup run.The players actively asked Holland to keep Ceci, from all reports.
He was that popular.
Did the Hawks lose someone that popular as a result of Hjalmarsson? (asking because I actually don’t know)
Stan's not done.I feel like bowman isn’t done yet. I expect another trade tomorrow (Monday). Just wait.
That comes after matching Broberg, trading Kulak for picks, and then signing Barrie to a PTO (later signing him to a one year 1 million dollar deal). Under the cap, and good to go.Or a Draisaitl extension announcement.
Even better that he’s got JJ to bounce ideas off of.Stan's not done.
He's been nursing a lot of emotional wounds. lol.See ya Cody. Likely past his best before date with us, but thought overall he was decent value for his contract. Scored some big, timely goals for us. His biggest fault had nothing to do with himself, it was that he couldn't make his partner Nurse a competent dman.
Ladd, Byfuglien, and Sopel were already cap casualties because of Tallon not filing key players' qualifying offers on time. Niemi and Madden left later that summer.The players actively asked Holland to keep Ceci, from all reports.
He was that popular.
Did the Hawks lose someone that popular as a result of Hjalmarsson? (asking because I actually don’t know)
I think he's good enough for the full-time job next season. Is he good enough for the top four role. I guess we'll find out. It is his to take now.Don’t think the Hawks resented Nik Hjalmarsson when he did it back in 2010. It’s a business, as long as Broberg holds up his end of the deal and keeps developing into a solid dman I don’t think anyone in the room will care.
Yup. Even the Oilers keeping Broberg (and these tidy trades to make that happen) should be enough to dissuade offersheets from “becoming a thing”. Especially trying to be the ‘smartest man in the room’ by overpaying two players to try to get just one (and ending up with the one you didn’t really care about at an inflated contract).
Will always appreciate that he brought maximum effort every game. I won't blame players that give everything they've got but aren't utilized properly by the team. Ceci would be a perfectly serviceable 5/6 dman if he made a bit less coin.I've dumped on ceci enough so instead I'll be positive.
He was a warrior for us and really looked good his first year here. Dude eats pucks and was good on the PK. Also seems like a great glue guy. Thanks ceci and good luck in San Jose!
I hope not. I would like to see Kulak go to allow Broberg to play his natural side, where he is MUCH better. I think the rest of the right side D could be addressed without too much of an issue. Last year Ceci was meh and VD or Broberg on his off side was not the greatest either. I really think the D overall will end up no worse than last year with Broberg on his strong side. Knob/Coffey seem to have a really nice system that works well. I think it will be better than expected when all is said and done.Stan's not done.
That comes after matching Broberg, trading Kulak for picks, and then signing Barrie to a PTO (later signing him to a one year 1 million dollar deal). Under the cap, and good to go.
It's only two years. He's probably as good as Ceci now. So something had to give. Would it be better if he was making 1.2M on a one year contract? For sure, but it is what it is.So it's a net Ceci, Bourgault and Holloway for Jarventie and Podkolzin and we give Broberg a gross contract.
It's gross, but things could be much worse.