bobbythebrain
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Lol. Hockey players hang out all the time with no interior motives.
It's fans who make up these theories.
Confirmed with Link: [EDM] Oilers extend Leon Draisaitl (8 Years, $14M AAV, NMC)
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Lol. Hockey players hang out all the time with no interior motives.
It's fans who make up these theories.
CantHaveTkachev
Cap Space > NHL players
whole lotta cope over at CP
they're just jealous Tkachuk and Gaudreau (RIP) bolted the second they could
they're just jealous Tkachuk and Gaudreau (RIP) bolted the second they could
Mr Positive
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Yes like I said, the gamble here is the length of the deal, and the upside of the risk is where the bargain lies. So just like Drai's 8.5 aav contract, the question is about how much faith you have in him. We have seen Draisaitl as the sturdy player. So what will Draisaitl be at age 36? Imo he will be a player of near equal value, with some loss of his physical gifts but with improved knowledge and defensive ability. If top players are signing for 19 million at that time, then the cap savings on Drai's 14 million aav deal could rival what the savings on his 8.5 aav deal was.
Wreckus
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In all fairness, Gaudreau wasn't going to stay in Calgary as he wanted to be closer to his family. imagine he would've made the same decision if he was in Vancouver, Edmonton, LA, or any other west coast team.
CantHaveTkachev
Cap Space > NHL players
doesn't change the fact he left the team
next time, Treliving shouldn't sign a player that can walk at UFA status
Wreckus
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Agreed. But I doubt Treliving knew at the time of the signing that he would walk when he was an UFA.
It's almost like alot of these players are friends and hang out in the off season or train together.
TheGingaNinja
Edmonton Ex-Pat who still loves his hometown team.
I predicted 13.5. I'm certainly not going to squawk about an extras 500k aav.
Great signing, very, very happy.
For those few complaining, you know what closes the SC window faster than anything? Not signing Drai and McD. Will the salary cap be an issue? Sure. Can it be managed? Of course.
It'll take creativity on the part of management, and some luck, to keep the window open. You know... just like every other team out there.
Great signing, very, very happy.
For those few complaining, you know what closes the SC window faster than anything? Not signing Drai and McD. Will the salary cap be an issue? Sure. Can it be managed? Of course.
It'll take creativity on the part of management, and some luck, to keep the window open. You know... just like every other team out there.
TheGingaNinja
Edmonton Ex-Pat who still loves his hometown team.
Well, that puppy is buyout proof, lol. Well positioned if there's any sort of work stoppage as well at the next CBA talks.
I don't care what anyone says, I still don't think he's going to re-sign.
One point I thought was interesting was how often top players in the NHL actually become available. This year the top 15 forwards in league scoring were:
1. Kucherov (UFA in 2027)
2. Mackinnon (UFA 2031)
3. McDavid (UFA 2026)
4. Panarin (UFA 2026)
5. Pastrnak (UFA in 2031)
6. Matthews (UFA in 2028)
7. Draisaitl (UFA in 2033)
8. Rantanen (UFA in 2025)
9. Miller (UFA in 2030)
10. Nylander (UFA in 2032)
11. Kaprizov (UFA in 2026)
12. Crosby (UFA in 2025)
13. Forsberg (UFA in 2030)
14. Reinhart (UFA in 2032)
15. Point (UFA in 2030)
So out of the top 15 talents (not even including guys like Tkachuk and Barkov who are signed until 2030) their are only 7 players that could potentially find new homes in the next 5 years.
Of those 7 players, you have 3 that will be on the back half's of their career in Kucherov (34), Panarin (34) and Crosby (38). Not exactly guys that you can build your future around.
That only leaves McDavid, Matthews, Rantanen and Kaprizov as potential elite building blocks for teams.
It just stresses how hard and important it was to get Draisaitl done. Then when you factor in that McDavid is more likely to sign here it's almost a no-brainer. If you have an elite player you can't let them walk.
1. Kucherov (UFA in 2027)
2. Mackinnon (UFA 2031)
3. McDavid (UFA 2026)
4. Panarin (UFA 2026)
5. Pastrnak (UFA in 2031)
6. Matthews (UFA in 2028)
7. Draisaitl (UFA in 2033)
8. Rantanen (UFA in 2025)
9. Miller (UFA in 2030)
10. Nylander (UFA in 2032)
11. Kaprizov (UFA in 2026)
12. Crosby (UFA in 2025)
13. Forsberg (UFA in 2030)
14. Reinhart (UFA in 2032)
15. Point (UFA in 2030)
So out of the top 15 talents (not even including guys like Tkachuk and Barkov who are signed until 2030) their are only 7 players that could potentially find new homes in the next 5 years.
Of those 7 players, you have 3 that will be on the back half's of their career in Kucherov (34), Panarin (34) and Crosby (38). Not exactly guys that you can build your future around.
That only leaves McDavid, Matthews, Rantanen and Kaprizov as potential elite building blocks for teams.
It just stresses how hard and important it was to get Draisaitl done. Then when you factor in that McDavid is more likely to sign here it's almost a no-brainer. If you have an elite player you can't let them walk.
rboomercat90
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No question he’ll bolt as soon as that contract is up.
bellagiobob
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There are probably around 25 or more teams that wished they had our cap problems and star players to deal with.
OilerTyler
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It’s interesting that Draisaitl (and McDavid if he re-signs) will actually have a good chance of breaking some of Gretzky's franchise records
Pretty sure they are taxed less on signing bonuses lump sum as well compared to being paid over the ull season
It’s all income.
The signing bonus you just have the ability of getting paid in a lower income state or location if you live there in the off season.
But it gets taxed the same as a regular income
JeffSkinner53
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Who do we replace Draisaitl with? Lol. What a dumb take by those posters.
Speed220DChalavan
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It feels like half of this board lives in magical Christmas-land where all their hockey wishes and desires are more than theoretically possible
Anyways, this is an amazing signing, absolutely no way of overstating how important the signing is to the next near decade of this franchise's history.
I will echo that it would have been nice to see just a little less (I was hoping for $13.5 as well), but I also realize that we don't actually live in a magical Christmas-land
Speed220DChalavan
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He was offered low-ball the summer before (in the 7's or low 8's) and deccided to hold extension talks until the off-season. He almost ended up signing too.
Tkachuk - they had an opportunity to sign long-term and instead did a bridge contract.
Unforced errors.
As for AM and 97 skating together, they're friends and have skated together in the off-season before (Arizona a few years ago).
Connor leaving Edmonton to sign in Toronto would be everything against his character. Nobody wants to take the easy route like Kevin Durant. A cup win in Toronto would not be as meaningful.
That's the other side of the street of trying to nickle and dime your star players. Yeah a discount is nice, but Calgary would also be an example of a team that thought they were the smartest person in the room and could force their stars to take less and passed on opportunities to sign them earlier.
lol the Leafs are more like the LA Clippers than the Golden State Warriors.
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