Proposal: EDM - NYR

[TFHockey]

This should be a fun one.

The Oilers need an upgrade in goal. The Rangers are looking to make changes to their line up and based on salary demands it seems like Shesterkin could be moved before the trade deadline. So do the Oilers really go for the Cup this year and make a massive deal for a pure rental?




Igor Shesterkin 28, (G) $5.66 Million pending UFA. No retention. No extension.




Oilers 1st round pick either 2025/26 whichever isn't moved to Philly
Oilers 1st round pick 2027
Oilers 2nd round pick 2025
Oilers 2nd round pick 2026

Stu Skinner 26 (G) $2.6 Million expires end of next season
Jeff Skinner 32 C/W $3.0 Million pending UFA

This makes the trade more or less cap neutral.

Historically Goaltenders don't go for this kind of haul, *especially* rentals. However Shesterkin is arguably the best in the league and his stellar play has covered some serious defensive shortcomings on the Rangers roster. Sounds exactly like what the Oilers need.

This could win them the Cup.

In the off season Shesterkin wants to sign for more than the eye-watering eight year, $88 Million dollar contract offered by New York. The Oilers have no chance to match that. Who knows, maybe becoming a Stanley Cup winner is the feather in his cap he needs to get the number he wants. Maybe that number comes from the Rangers who sign him as a free agent in the summer AND get the draft capital above.

Stu Skinner is added because the Oilers have to make some room under the cap and someone has to share duties with Quick. Jeff Skinner is also added for the same cap reason and his contract expires at the end of the year. Not a painful add for the Rangers to take on.

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[leeroggy]

As an Isles fan, I approve this message . . .

 

[SML2]

If you can find a way to add former Ranger draft pick Hnuter Skinner, I will think about it.

 

[TGWL]

I'll accept on behalf of NYR.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

We’re not trading our best player unless an equal or better player is coming back. We’re trying to win this year.

I would maybe consider it for Draisaitl. McDavid, sure.

Picks? No chance.

 

[eco's bones]

With McDavid, Draisatl, Sheshterkin etc. the idea seems to make perennial cup runs for the next yada amount of years. Win a cup or two or three too. Great from an Oilers and Oilers fans perspective.

As a Rangers fan then I'm looking at those 1st round picks thinking if both are final four conference finals or better picks then my team is picking between 29 and 32 and the 2nd rounders are between 61 and 64. Not all 1st and 2nd round picks are equal. We definitely don't need Jeff Skinner and if Igor is saving our bacon too often as it is Stuart Skinner's going to be cooked before October is over so no you'd have to do better than that. Offer us something at least that's going to really hurt to give up.

 

[HockeyVirus]

What is the best case scenario for the Rangers here? The Oilers stink and barely make or miss the playoffs and they get one of those firsts in the late teens?

Why are they trading the best goalie in the league for 2 basically 2nd round picks and 2 mid draft picks? Not one single asset coming back to build around.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

We’re not trading our best player unless an equal or better player is coming back. We’re trying to win this year.

I would maybe consider it for Draisaitl. McDavid, sure.

Picks? No chance.

lol we're not winning shit this year, and trading Igor will save Drury from giving him a monster deal during our non-contending window which is coming up very fast. Need a retool at the very least.

 

[oXo Cube]

Makes no sense for Edmonton even if Shesterkin was a realistic target(he isn't). Oilers can't afford his extension.

Igor and the Rangers will get a deal done.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

lol we're not winning shit this year, and trading Igor will save Drury from giving him a monster deal during our non-contending window which is coming up very fast. Need a retool at the very least.

The math isn’t mathing here.

So we need to retool by not signing our best player? How does that possibly end up in a Cup Contender better than the current team? You don’t sign one of the best players in the league so you can add two albatrosses like Trouba and Goodrow? When have the Rangers been good at finding value on the cap? The idea we’re going to turn Igor’s money into a first pair LHD and a second pair LHD and then also manage to find a good goaltender is just loony toons world stuff. Truly the type of stuff you look back on in 5 years as one of the stupidest and most psychoanalyzed decisions in franchise history that gets people fired.

And also, I fully believe we aren’t winning the Cup this year, but I also think we probably are nowhere near as bad as the last two weeks. I don’t believe this team is worse than last year. So we’ll be somewhere in the group of 10 teams that go into the playoffs with a chance (not a good chance because that’s inherently how the math works, but a chance), and maybe the chips fall our way. Probably won’t because that’s just how the odds go. You don’t pass up that 1 in 10 chance though when you get it.

 

[eco's bones]

The math isn’t mathing here.

So we need to retool by not signing our best player? How does that possibly end up in a Cup Contender better than the current team? You don’t sign one of the best players in the league so you can add two albatrosses like Trouba and Goodrow? When have the Rangers been good at finding value on the cap? The idea we’re going to turn Igor’s money into a first pair LHD and a second pair LHD and then also manage to find a good goaltender is just loony toons world stuff. Truly the type of stuff you look back on in 5 years as one of the stupidest and most psychoanalyzed decisions in franchise history that gets people fired.

And also, I fully believe we aren’t winning the Cup this year, but I also think we probably are nowhere near as bad as the last two weeks. I don’t believe this team is worse than last year. So we’ll be somewhere in the group of 10 teams that go into the playoffs with a chance (not a good chance because that’s inherently how the math works, but a chance), and maybe the chips fall our way. Probably won’t because that’s just how the odds go. You don’t pass up that 1 in 10 chance though when you get it.

The Rangers problems haven't been with the goaltending. Most of the vets we rely on most just haven't been playing well with maybe the exceptions of Fox and Panarin. Zibanejad has been particularly awful. Trouba, Lindgren, Miller have been struggling.

I don't see how moving the guy who more than anyone is keeping our heads above water is going to fix our issues and he's not replaceable. Moving Igor pretty much is going to mean we're going into the future with anywhere from mediocre to good goaltending for now and maybe for the foreseeable future. It's an edge we have over all other teams. You don't trade your edge.