Proposal: Edm - Dal

[Larry Hanson]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. RNH's contract is fine, maybe slightly long, and it is not buyout proof. Buyout proof means that the contract is full of large signing bonuses with a small base salary, his contract is front loaded with small signing bonuses on 3 of the years. If he waived his NMC he could easily be traded, he just signed a discount contract so he probably doesn't want to waive but that doesn't make him untradeable. I despise the Oilers but there is some crazy talk going on here.

 

[PuckG]

Is RNH's production somewhat lacklustre? Sure.

Is he one of the few Oiler forwards that doesn't get absolutely caved in from a two-way stand point? Yes.

At 5.1 million, I am more than happy running him as a 2 way top 6 winger who can step into the #2c position when injury (inevitably) occurs.

 

[Macheteops]

Totally cool with Hopkins contract. Yes a little long but I suppose they ll deal with that when the time comes. It likely kept his average salary down a bit in these vital years of McDrai

 

[LeapOnOver]

Over paid and term is 3-4 years too long

The term is long, but definitely not overpaid in comparison to other players around the league with the same output. Look at Isles own Josh Bailey. Same with Jordan Eberle. They are all getting around that much. You can't just go around stomping your feet and saying the whole league is overpaid.

 

[Three On Zero]

The term is long, but definitely not overpaid in comparison to other players around the league with the same output. Look at Isles own Josh Bailey. Same with Jordan Eberle. They are all getting around that much. You can't just go around stomping your feet and saying the whole league is overpaid.

You’re right the whole league isn’t, but RNH is

 

[TFHockey]

Another truly awful take

In what world was RNH going to sign a 4x4 deal? He already took a paycut

That guy always has the worst things to say about the Oilers. Pay him no mind.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

You’re right the whole league isn’t, but RNH is

What is Pettersson getting paid?

How does that deal compare with RNH right now?

 

[Three On Zero]

What is Pettersson getting paid?

How does that deal compare with RNH right now?

Also over paid for what he’s doing

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Also over paid for what he’s doing

How is RNH overpaid for 26 points in 30 games? I would like you to explain that to me

 

[Three On Zero]

How is RNH overpaid for 26 points in 30 games? I would like you to explain that to me

10 points in 30 games @ 5v5

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

Nuge has a full no movement clause throughout his whole contract. He took a sizable discount just for that to be part of the contract. He's mentioned almost too many times that he wants to play for Edmonton his entire career. He'll never waive his NMC, especially in the first few years of his new contract. If/when McDavid and Draisaitl leave (2025 and 2026), and if Edmonton sinks as a result, he'd likely consider waiving it, but he'd be well into his 30s by then, and his value will be a fraction of what it is today. Him and Darnell made it clear in the summer, they want to play for Edmonton their whole career, with both signing max term deals that will run into their mid 30s. As an Oiler fan, that's so heart warming to see, as the vast majority of players, usually want out of here by the time their contract expires, or just simply would never sign here as a free agent.

If you're looking for a center, as a Stars fan I'd be taking a look at Lafreniere in New York. He's not nearly living up to the hype thus far, but he's full of potential that may get realized with a different team/system. Could be a Seguin 2.0, or better

 

[thadd]

RNH has an untradeable contract .. they can't even buy him out if they wanted to

But I'd do that trade

What are you talking about he only makes 5M per season. Freaking awesome contract.

 

[ManofSteel55]

10 points in 30 games @ 5v5

So powerplay points don't count now? Okay then.

 

[Llamamoto]

10 points in 30 games @ 5v5

Petterson has 11 in 41.

 

[Zenos]

How is RNH overpaid for 26 points in 30 games? I would like you to explain that to me

Because HF collective wisdom has decided that special-teams production isn't worth much. Please don't bother asking why.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Getting back to the OP, would Dallas have interest in moving a package that included Holtby and Faksa if it was based more on futures than on an unrealistic target like Nuge? Holtby and Faksa for Koskinen (cap reasons, expiring contract) and what futures?

 

[OG Eberle]

I had zero idea RNH's contract was so divisive amongst Oilers fans, nevermind his production somehow.

Why is $5.1million/season for the next several years "overpaid"?

Forwards making a similar salary include the following: Josh Bailey, Kyle Palmieri, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Tom Wilson, Yani Gourde, Evgeni Dadonov, Mikael Granlund

There is 1 player on that list most would take over RNH. Not sure why this contract is so bad for what RNH brings in an effective 2-way role and verstaility between RW and C when needed.

That's not even touching on the "argument" that only 10 of his 26 points in 30 games (!!!) are even strength so that somehow makes him even worse? Despite being almost a PPG player?

Sorry he's effective on special teams? What an awkward take on his contract and production unless I'm missing something?

Team should've signed him for $2million x 7 years. Another nail in Ken Hollands coffin #fireholland amirite

 

[IIxGURUxII]

What are you talking about he only makes 5M per season. Freaking awesome contract.

That way it's structured.. that's what I'm talking about

 

[Rory]

Getting back to the OP, would Dallas have interest in moving a package that included Holtby and Faksa if it was based more on futures than on an unrealistic target like Nuge? Holtby and Faksa for Koskinen (cap reasons, expiring contract) and what futures?

What are the future’s? I think oiler fans won’t part with what is needed. IMO I would gladly move faska. Great defensive forward. Terrible offensively. Bowness is in love with him too much. Holtby would cost as Dallas wants to make the playoffs and he is a key part of that.

 

[thadd]

That way it's structured.. that's what I'm talking about

Yeah I'm not worried about that. We're in no rush to trade him or buy him out.

 

[ManofSteel55]

What are the future’s? I think oiler fans won’t part with what is needed. IMO I would gladly move faska. Great defensive forward. Terrible offensively. Bowness is in love with him too much. Holtby would cost as Dallas wants to make the playoffs and he is a key part of that.

It wouldn't be our top tier prospects or picks I don't think. If you guys need Holtby then I think we would back off. If we are going to have to try to pry a guy away from the opposition I would rather do it with someone better.

How much for just Faksa? Bad offensively fits in with the rest of our bottom six forwards but we could use the great defensive play, ha ha.

 

[ManofSteel55]

That way it's structured.. that's what I'm talking about

How so? Length may be an issue but it isn't one of those deals that is front loaded heavily or with tons of bonuses.

 

[Three On Zero]

So powerplay points don't count now? Okay then.

To quote an Oilers fan…

The guy has 24 points at 5v5 in his last 82 games playing almost every single minute with McDavid or Draisaitl.

He gives you the offensive depth of a below average third liner.

Milan Lucic has triple Nuges goal production this year

 

[ManofSteel55]

To quote an Oilers fan…

The guy has 24 points at 5v5 in his last 82 games playing almost every single minute with McDavid or Draisaitl.

He gives you the offensive depth of a below average third liner.

Milan Lucic has triple Nuges goal production this year

Glad powerplay points aren't worth as much. Good to know.

Lucic has half the points of Nuge, for what its worth.

 

[Three On Zero]

Glad powerplay points aren't worth as much. Good to know.

Lucic has half the points of Nuge, for what its worth.

It’s almost like the game is played
Primarily 5on5 and not on the power play