ECSF: Toronto Maple Leafs (A2) vs. Florida Panthers (WC2) ( Florida Leads 3-1 )

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

IMO, Panthers aren't worried until they lose game 6.

All they need is one of to following and they're on to round 3:
Bob stealing a game.
Woll blowing a game.
Lucky bounce.
Bad penalty call.
Leaf choke.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

His only obvious intent was to deliver a solid body check. Other than that, you’re assuming

It was 100% a charge.

42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner. Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A “charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.

IMO, Panthers aren't worried until they lose game 6.

All they need is one of to following and they're on to round 3:
Bob stealing a game.
Woll blowing a game.
Lucky bounce.
Bad penalty call.
Leaf choke.

Refs not penalizing them for 2 games.

 

[drktmplr12]

leafs were gifted a scoring chance that lead to a goal. for their sake, i hope that isn't necessary next game

for cats sake, i sure hope they just put it away

 

[ProjectPanthers]

It was 100% a charge.

42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner. Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A “charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.


Refs not penalizing them for 2 games.

Their powerplay had 4 opportunities through the first 3 games how in the f*** are you STILL crying about officiating this far into the playoffs? Holy shit welcome to the second round.

 

[AcerComputer]

Because there was nothing wrong with Gudas’ hit. The whistle was a split second before the hit.

That guy who took Samsonov out should be suspended!!

It was a delayed penalty, and the player is not expecting to be hit, because the whistle blows as soon as Kampf touches the puck. There's no reason for Gudas to throw a hit there, it was clearly charging.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

there is no question. mccabe goes after montour with a crosscheck but ends up getting reinhart. then accairi comes flying in to take down montour. bennett comes in because his teammate is getting mauled.

there was nothing wrong with the hit.

It was 2 on 2 until Bennett came jumping in blindside .......and of course proceeded to punch a prone guy with others on top of him.

 

[AvroArrow]

Their powerplay had 4 opportunities through the first 3 games how in the f*** are you STILL crying about officiating this far into the playoffs? Holy shit welcome to the second round.

Your team had 4 powerplays in a previous game, therefore we should be allowed to commit infractions without being called for a penalty in this game ! Why are you complaining about multiple missed/blown calls in this game, when your team had powerplays four games ago !?

 

[Beezeral]

It was a delayed penalty, and the player is not expecting to be hit, because the whistle blows as soon as Kampf touches the puck. There's no reason for Gudas to throw a hit there, it was clearly charging.

The penalty occurred seconds before Kampf touched the puck and he clearly was skating like the play was still live.

 

[Rob Brown]

Their powerplay had 4 opportunities through the first 3 games how in the f*** are you STILL crying about officiating this far into the playoffs? Holy shit welcome to the second round.

...and Panthers fans (and bandwagon Panther fans who just hate the Leafs) were whining incessantly the first few games because of limited PPs for Florida. Your own coach was whining. Did you miss that?

 

[AvroArrow]

It was 100% a charge.

42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner. Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A “charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.

I'm shocked at the amount of people that don't know what charging or a high-stick double minor are

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Their powerplay had 4 opportunities through the first 3 games how in the f*** are you STILL crying about officiating this far into the playoffs? Holy shit welcome to the second round.

When you go almost two games without officials seeing a single penalty on one side, it's an issue. Generally the second round has been much better than the first. Obvious things still need to be called. If you don't like it, I don't know what to tell you?

 

[Just Rude]

I'm shocked at the amount of people that don't know what charging or a high-stick double minor are

Next thing you'll hear is Gudas didn't take more than two strides.

 

[AvroArrow]

When you go almost two games without officials seeing a single penalty on one side, it's an issue. Generally the second round has been much better than the first. Obvious things still need to be called. If you don't like it, I don't know what to tell you?

I believe it was 100+ straight minutes without a penalty, during the regular season they were the 2nd most penalized team in the league. I don't know why people are against having a discussion about this.

Next thing you'll hear is Gudas didn't take more than two strides.

Lmao. Like a guy clearly gets high sticked and a high stick is called, there's dudes saying his visor cut him like bro at least be reasonable if you're gonna be anti-leafs.

 

[Rob Brown]

I believe it was 100+ straight minutes without a penalty, during the regular season they were the 2nd most penalized team in the league. I don't know why people are against having a discussion about this.

Panthers fans/Leafs haters talking about lack of PPs in the first few games = totally normal and to be expected.

Leafs fans doing the same after the last two games = blasphemy

 

[seventieslord]

@pnep a few things, if you have the time...

1. historical rate of returning from a 3-1 series deficit and winning series?
- first, in total
- then, separated out by series that started 3-0 compared to those that didn't.

Reason I ask is it seems that we see a 3-1 comeback annually (and I've read the rate is something like 18%) but we frequently see teams go LLLWL. After game 4, statistically, the series should be no different from all the other 3-1 series that have occurred over the years, but it feels like the series win likelihood is still lower than a series that got to 3-1 by any other sequence. I wonder if that is psychological or just small sample noise.

2. Historical likelihood of:
- winning game 4 when down 3-0
- winning game 5 when the above happened
- winning game 6 when both of the above happened
- winning game 7 when all of the above happened

 

[AvroArrow]

Panthers fans/Leafs haters talking about lack of PPs in the first few games = totally normal and to be expected.

Leafs fans doing the same after the last two games = blasphemy

Paul Maurice complains about penalties in game 1, totally normal

Panthers go 110 minutes straight without being called for a penalty, OMG WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING

 

[TheGroceryStick]

That wqs Toronto's 2nd regulation win in ten games

Panthers will finish this by game 6

There you have it folks.

 

[I am not exposed]

The Leafs have been the better team this series and can most definitely win in 7.

 

[Rob Brown]

Paul Maurice complains about penalties in game 1, totally normal

Panthers go 110 minutes straight without being called for a penalty, OMG WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING

Lol yep.

 

[EverTheCynic]

Leafs played a really good game. Was impressed with their performance.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

IMO, Panthers aren't worried until they lose game 6.

All they need is one of to following and they're on to round 3:
Bob stealing a game.
Woll blowing a game.
Lucky bounce.
Bad penalty call.
Leaf choke

B's had a similar game plan. Ouffff




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I feel terrible for the people that pre-made their sweep memes.
Probably why they're in here with their panties in a knot.
Poor dorks.

 

[ProjectPanthers]

Your team had 4 powerplays in a previous game, therefore we should be allowed to commit infractions without being called for a penalty in this game ! Why are you complaining about multiple missed/blown calls in this game, when your team had powerplays four games ago !?

It's almost like teams try to play cleaner and change up their strategies game to game....

What a novel idea right??!?!

 

[Peasy]

@pnep a few things, if you have the time...

1. historical rate of returning from a 3-1 series deficit and winning series?
- first, in total
- then, separated out by series that started 3-0 compared to those that didn't.

Reason I ask is it seems that we see a 3-1 comeback annually (and I've read the rate is something like 18%) but we frequently see teams go LLLWL. After game 4, statistically, the series should be no different from all the other 3-1 series that have occurred over the years, but it feels like the series win likelihood is still lower than a series that got to 3-1 by any other sequence. I wonder if that is psychological or just small sample noise.

2. Historical likelihood of:
- winning game 4 when down 3-0
- winning game 5 when the above happened
- winning game 6 when both of the above happened
- winning game 7 when all of the above happened

Think it just comes down to it being a lot less probable to win 4 in a row than 3.

Like if you look at a coin flip, to get 3 of the same in a row, that probability is 12.5%, but for 4 in a row it drops to 6.3%. Obviously its not that simple and there are thousands of factors, but yeah.

 

[zeroG]

It was 2 on 2 until Bennett came jumping in blindside .......and of course proceeded to punch a prone guy with others on top of him.

um. no. absolutely not.

i don't really give a shit about this but let's accurately and objectively describe what happened. mccabe crosschecks reinhart to the ice and then he and accairi proceed to start mauling montour. at 12-13 seconds (screenshot below - 2 guys on montour, reino on ice, bennett still 6 feet away). there is no question.

i don't blame accairi and mccabe for going after montour to stick up for reilly but the hit was clean. it was in fact, perfect - montour separated reilly from the puck, which was exactly what he needed to do. if reilly thought it was dirty, why did he pop back up and go right after the puck?

what happened at the bottom of the dogpile after this started is another story but it started because mccabe and accairi jumped montour (after mccabe crosschecked reinhart).

 

[ProjectPanthers]

When you go almost two games without officials seeing a single penalty on one side, it's an issue. Generally the second round has been much better than the first. Obvious things still need to be called. If you don't like it, I don't know what to tell you?

I don't care about the officiating anymore. It's going to be wildly inconsistent both ways, that's just how it is nowadays.

All you can do is kill of the penalties you get and score on the powerplays you get.