ECQF: (WC1) Boston Bruins @ (M1) Carolina Hurricanes | Series tied 3-3

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One issue that has failed canes in previous years in PO is special teams. And yes, im saying this aloud, there was and will be again edge on referiing here for bruins. But anyway, the part with special teams has improved a lot making that part of game even. And that makes the difference. Canes will push with 4 line effort in 6.
 

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One issue that has failed canes in previous years in PO is special teams. And yes, im saying this aloud, there was and will be again edge on referiing here for bruins. But anyway, the part with special teams has improved a lot making that part of game even. And that makes the difference. Canes will push with 4 line effort in 6.
You don't follow the Bruins imo. That is one thing I've not seen for the last 27 years.... referee inconsistency has nothing to do with Boston.
 

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Yeah because that’s why I said.

No matter the team the Canes were going to face I started to think about the weakness of Carolina during the season.
They are a balanced team but the only team in the East that you can really say doesn’t have a true superstar.

In the previous years Aho and the company have gone too quiet for my liking when they’ve played their biggest games.

I’ve watched ton of their games and can you disagree with that too much?



As I said above that’s to me their biggest question mark, because they really don’t have much.
They were the best team in Metro this year so obviously are a good team and have gone for runs over the last couple of years but have finished short.
Goaltending is fixed so to me it leaves that as their biggest question mark and where I think Boston can overmatch Carolina and has to in this series.

Regular season and playoffs are different games.
To go to the end I feel you need game changers.
Blues had Pietrangelo and RoR, RoR won playoffs MVP and Selke on that season.

So in short to me Boston has the better high end talent but Carolina is more balanced team.
= Boston in 6 or 7
I think it's fair to say that Boston has the higher end players... but I think the question is by how much? I feel like the gap between Bergy, Pasta, Marchand and co. is a lot closer this year to the talent of Aho, Svech, TT and co.

We're conceding that Carolina has the better depth but I would say on the top talent it's not necessarily a blow out. But we will see. Canes have a few players that need to step up their games in the playoffs like Nino, Necas, but then we've also seen Staal and Kotkaniemi do big things in the playoffs as well. How will Jarvis play as a rookie? Max Domi doesn't have much of a playoff track record at all?

Lots of questions to answer and if the Canes want to win they will need their big guns to produce. Boston definitely has the players and a recipe for proven success in the postseason so it will be interesting to see if they can execute that or if they change things up.

Wild Card goaltending at both ends of the ice. Anyone who says they know which way this series will go with confidence is just talking out of their ass.
 

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I want to apologize to Canes fans for the inevitable Toronto/Boston bickering that will take place in every thread in this series, not just this one.
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I think it's fair to say that Boston has the higher end players... but I think the question is by how much? I feel like the gap between Bergy, Pasta, Marchand and co. is a lot closer this year to the talent of Aho, Svech, TT and co.

We're conceding that Carolina has the better depth but I would say on the top talent it's not necessarily a blow out. But we will see. Canes have a few players that need to step up their games in the playoffs like Nino, Necas, but then we've also seen Staal and Kotkaniemi do big things in the playoffs as well. How will Jarvis play as a rookie? Max Domi doesn't have much of a playoff track record at all?

Lots of questions to answer and if the Canes want to win they will need their big guns to produce. Boston definitely has the players and a recipe for proven success in the postseason so it will be interesting to see if they can execute that or if they change things up.

Wild Card goaltending at both ends of the ice. Anyone who says they know which way this series will go with confidence is just talking out of their ass.

The Bruins have two first lines. Since that magical Jan 1st date, Haula has produced at the rate of a 1st liner at 5 on 5. And, of course, so have Hall and Pasta. Bergeron and Marchand, or course, too. And DeBrusk as well scoring at a 30 goal pace. Bruins have the better top two lines. Canes have the better bottom 2 lines, and probably by a bigger spread.
 

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Who are going to be Canes game changers?
Neither Aho or Svec have been able to take that step yet

Chara mangling Svechs leg in the last series prevented that.

I think this series is a lot different without Chara there to cross check people out of the crease.
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I think it's fair to say that Boston has the higher end players... but I think the question is by how much? I feel like the gap between Bergy, Pasta, Marchand and co. is a lot closer this year to the talent of Aho, Svech, TT and co.

We're conceding that Carolina has the better depth but I would say on the top talent it's not necessarily a blow out. But we will see. Canes have a few players that need to step up their games in the playoffs like Nino, Necas, but then we've also seen Staal and Kotkaniemi do big things in the playoffs as well. How will Jarvis play as a rookie? Max Domi doesn't have much of a playoff track record at all?

Lots of questions to answer and if the Canes want to win they will need their big guns to produce. Boston definitely has the players and a recipe for proven success in the postseason so it will be interesting to see if they can execute that or if they change things up.

Wild Card goaltending at both ends of the ice. Anyone who says they know which way this series will go with confidence is just talking out of their ass.

This is why Carolina getting home ice advantage is a big deal.
 

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I want to apologize to Canes fans for the inevitable Toronto/Boston bickering that will take place in every thread in this series, not just this one.
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The Bruins have two first lines. Since that magical Jan 1st date, Haula has produced at the rate of a 1st liner at 5 on 5. And, of course, so have Hall and Pasta. Bergeron and Marchand, or course, too. And DeBrusk as well scoring at a 30 goal pace. Bruins have the better top two lines. Canes have the better bottom 2 lines, and probably by a bigger spread.
I think it's disingenuous to call Haula a 1st line talent. He played for us. We know what he can do. We also sent him home last year.
 

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One issue that has failed canes in previous years in PO is special teams. And yes, im saying this aloud, there was and will be again edge on referiing here for bruins. But anyway, the part with special teams has improved a lot making that part of game even. And that makes the difference. Canes will push with 4 line effort in 6.
The Bruins always get seemingly biased reffing because of the NHL's obsession with game management. Boston knows that they can play right up to and across the line, and will only get roughly the same number of calls that their much cleaner opponents get because the refs are terrified of appearing biased by actually calling the game as it's played.

It's not some grand conspiracy where Jacobs bribes the refs, it's just that the Bruins know exactly how to game the system of how the NHL tells its refs to call games. So it is and so it shall be, until the NHL gets its head out of its ass on the game management style of reffing.
 

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I think it's disingenuous to call Haula a 1st line talent. He played for us. We know what he can do. We also sent him home last year.

Between Hall and Pasta he has produced like one. Just like he did for Vegas the one year. I get it, he was replacement level (at best!) for us in the bottom six before the change. He has been a really good third wheel cleaning up while they do the work.

Edit: I will note that the Hall/Haula/Pasta line is poor in their own zone and very much don’t play like a Bruins (TM) line.
 

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Boston in 7 .
Goaltending and Bergevin will tip the scales in Bs favor.
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Any word on schedule?

I'm gone next weekend hoping to not miss home games.

Bruins can pull this off, full lineup healthy I like this team and Lindholm was a huge upgrade for the team
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Both toronto and boston sat out players. They didnt throw anything
If Bruins were to go for one team or the another. They would pick leafs over canes. The leafs don't strike fear in anyone......let alone the Bruins.
 
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The Bruins always get seemingly biased reffing because of the NHL's obsession with game management. Boston knows that they can play right up to and across the line, and will only get roughly the same number of calls that their much cleaner opponents get because the refs are terrified of appearing biased by actually calling the game as it's played.

It's not some grand conspiracy where Jacobs bribes the refs, it's just that the Bruins know exactly how to game the system of how the NHL tells its refs to call games. So it is and so it shall be, until the NHL gets its head out of its ass on the game management style of reffing.
Yea.
They play the game the way its called.
Not the way they wish it was called.
 

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I think it's fair to say that Boston has the higher end players... but I think the question is by how much? I feel like the gap between Bergy, Pasta, Marchand and co. is a lot closer this year to the talent of Aho, Svech, TT and co.

We're conceding that Carolina has the better depth but I would say on the top talent it's not necessarily a blow out. But we will see. Canes have a few players that need to step up their games in the playoffs like Nino, Necas, but then we've also seen Staal and Kotkaniemi do big things in the playoffs as well. How will Jarvis play as a rookie? Max Domi doesn't have much of a playoff track record at all?

Lots of questions to answer and if the Canes want to win they will need their big guns to produce. Boston definitely has the players and a recipe for proven success in the postseason so it will be interesting to see if they can execute that or if they change things up.

Wild Card goaltending at both ends of the ice. Anyone who says they know which way this series will go with confidence is just talking out of their ass.

Aho& Svec could take that next step, they are young and talented.
But by what we can go by that’s where Boston has the edge.
Their big 3 up front are all proven playoff performers, they’ve shown they have another gear and know how to win games.

I trust this Carolinas goaltending a helluva lot more than their previous ones, I wasn’t a big believer in them for big games
 
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Aho& Svec could take that next step, they are young and talented.
But by what we can go by that’s where Boston has the edge.
Their big 3 up front are all proven playoff performers, they’ve shown they have another gear and know how to win games.

I trust this Carolinas goaltending a helluva lot more than their previous ones, I wasn’t a big believer in them for big games
100%. No reason to doubt Boston's big guys getting it done until Carolina shows they can put a stop to that when it matters.

Aho has performed well in the playoffs and while Svech and TT have had their moments, they just haven't been consistent.

I feel the same way about the goaltending as well. It's not that Mrazek/Ned/Reimer weren't capable of winning big games or series, but their style of play and consistency just weren't there. It's the reason why none of those guys have ever been true no. 1 goalies.

But with Freddie injured for at least a bit, we will see what happens with Raanta and Pyotr. Rannts is a really solid goalie and more than capable of winning some playoff games but he has injury concerns as well. Pyotr is a complete newbie but has always performed at every level. If we gotta roll with him, we gotta roll with him. He plays a more predictable style that I think the Canes feel more comfortable in front of.
 
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Bruins fan saying B’s in 7. That said I hate this matchup. Would have preferred any team in East, including Bolts. Canes speed and aggressive forecheck will be a problem and Cassidy has some major X and O’s homework cramming to do to find an effective strategy for dealing with both.
 

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Canes have the best forechecking forwards in the league. If the Bruins D and forwards can't make quick exits, it's going to be a tough series.

Bruins in 6
 
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How is Carolina's goaltending situation looking?
Andersen is still banged up, and they've been pretty tight lipped about when he'll be back. Raanta looked like he tweaked something about a week back, but he started game 82 against New Jersey. If I had to guess, I'd say he'll start game one over Kochetkov, but apparently that's not set in stone.



 
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Interesting series, both teams play the game the right way. All 200 feet of the ice. Had Andersen been healthy, I would have said edge to The Canes. Should be a long and close series. When it is close, I usually look to coaching. And both Cassidy and Brindamour are Coaches I respect as the best at their profession. Flip a coin.
 

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Between Hall and Pasta he has produced like one. Just like he did for Vegas the one year. I get it, he was replacement level (at best!) for us in the bottom six before the change. He has been a really good third wheel cleaning up while they do the work.

Edit: I will note that the Hall/Haula/Pasta line is poor in their own zone and very much don’t play like a Bruins (TM) line.
The Hall/haula/Pasta line has 185 points..

The Domi/Trocheck/Terrivinan has 165 its not much of a disparity....

In fact the combined point totals of the Bruins and Canes top two lines are a dead heat...

Especially when you consider we have guys like Nino and Necas on our third and fourth lines and they got 203 points from blueliners.
 
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The Hall/haula/Pasta line has 185 points..

The Domi/Trocheck/Terrivinan has 165 its not much of a disparity....

In fact the combined point totals of the Bruins and Canes top two lines are a dead heat...

Especially when you consider we have guys like Nino and Necas on our third and fourth lines and they got 203 points from blueliners.

Now do it from Jan 1st when they actually became lines. Haula and DeBrusk sucked in October, November and December in the bottom six.
 

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Now do it from Jan 1st when they actually became lines. Haula and DeBrusk sucked in October, November and December in the bottom six.
Neither of Hurricanes were lines until around mid March but a cute game to play in fact Jarvis was on line 4 and Domi was a BJ.

If we are playing the relevancy of that it should be noted the Hurricanes outscored the Bruins 13-1 since January 1st.

Haula is not a first liner period....
 
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