ECQF: (WC1) Boston Bruins @ (M1) Carolina Hurricanes | Series tied 3-3

[nbwingsfan]

I dont want Deangelo on my team I sure as heck don't want a dirty little yapping rat who can't back up any of his smack talk.... Funny win or lose and here I am you dissappear when the Bs lose.

You wouldn’t want a player that would be by far your best player? Weird.

 

[burstnbloom]

Like anything the league says is on the level, that simple Google search shows up with a video posted a year later on YouTube by marchand himself about why he is still licking opponents.

We get it guys are scum bags only if they aren't YOUR scumbag.

edit - you know what - while I believe everything I originally typed, its not going to further the discussion. Please delete.

 

[nbwingsfan]

He's a good hockey player no doubt, and true to your posts from what I've seen he performs much better when he's not being a clown.

You had one post in this thread after, losses in games 1 & 2..... "I just want murder" can't take it the same way you try to dish it.

I mean you were in here saying the Canes have a cake walk and it’ll be an easy game 3/4… that’s quickly changed

 

[Sigurd]

You wouldn’t want a player that would be by far your best player? Weird.

Far better than Aho and Svechnikov who also happen to be quite a bit younger and haven't peaked yet? Never mind our D and Andersen, when he wasn't actually injured, was discussed as a candidate for the Vezina trophy.

 

[burstnbloom]

It's kinda funny and almost makes Cassidy look bad that Wagner comes in and starts smashes bodies when he's been punished down to Providence the entire season.. They bring him up and he's making body checks (and good ones) against arguably the best team in the NHL...

I don't think this is on Cassidy. Wagner was putrid last year and he saved the bruins almost a full roster spot's worth of cap being buried. It was the right call. I'm happy for Wagner that he's playing pretty well. I hope he can parlay that into a contract next year.

 

[NDiesel]

Far better than Aho and Svechnikov who also happen to be quite a bit younger and haven't peaked yet? Never mind our D and Andersen, when he wasn't actually injured, was discussed as a candidate for the Vezina trophy.

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I mean he is outscoring all of the guys on our team by at least 4 points this series...so yeah he is far better and backs it up, Aho and Svech hope they can have a career like Brad's

 

[Sigurd]

I mean he is outscoring all of the guys on our team by at least 4 points this series...so yeah he is far better and backs it up, Aho and Svech hope they can have a career like Brad's

Which only happened at home and he was going through a long dry spell/hardly on the score sheet for so long against the Canes as was previously discussed during the series. And no, he isn't far better than the players I mentioned. Stop with the rosy colored glasses for a minute. Both teams have good players.

 

[Over the volcano]

Far better than Aho and Svechnikov who also happen to be quite a bit younger and haven't peaked yet? Never mind our D and Andersen, when he wasn't actually injured, was discussed as a candidate for the Vezina trophy.

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As a Canes fan, what's your take on why those two have ben relatively quiet through the series so far?

 

[nbwingsfan]

Far better than Aho and Svechnikov who also happen to be quite a bit younger and haven't peaked yet? Never mind our D and Andersen, when he wasn't actually injured, was discussed as a candidate for the Vezina trophy.

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Have Svechnikov or Aho ever come close to 100pts? Being younger has absolutely no barring on who’s better today. You’re seriously going to compare Anderson to Marchand?

You won’t find a single non Canes fan who think anyone on Carolina is better than Marchand.

 

[Sigurd]

As a Canes fan, what's your take on why those two have ben relatively quiet through the series so far?

Nice subtle way of saying Marchand is far better than these players while acting innocent about it, and setting yourself up to argue against anything I say.

Just like Marchand was struggling, hopefully they kick their game up a gear (even though they have made big plays in this series so far). I think the whole Canes team is at fault for the last two away games, and it's certainly hard for even all-star players like Aho to do much offensively when the team takes 9 penalties (Aho himself was in the box for 4 minutes last game). I'm not gonna metaphorically burn Aho and Svech at the stake for not putting the team on their backs yet since we still have games left of this series, but they need to clean their shit up along with the rest of the team after the away games. Thankfully though, we have depth so we don't have to rely on only 2-3 guys for point production.

 

[Sigurd]

Have Svechnikov or Aho ever come close to 100pts? Being younger has absolutely no barring on who’s better today. You’re seriously going to compare Anderson to Marchand?

You won’t find a single non Canes fan who think anyone on Carolina is better than Marchand.

Oh, now you're dropping the far better to do damage control/walk your comment back. Also, yes, being younger is relevant when Aho and Svech are gonna be around for many more years in the league, and they haven't peaked yet. Marchand is part of an aging core from Boston (they already lost their longtime star player Chara), meanwhile, Aho and Svech are part of a young good core and have many more playoff runs ahead of them. Even if we buy the argument that Marchand is FAR better than them, he will have less cup runs than Aho and Svech left. Also, btw, Marchand was outscored by Aho this season in goals and points; so Aho stat wise has that in favor of him being better "today." I'm sure that doesn't matter to you even though you brought up him scoring 100 points in a season from back in 2018-2019; his only 100 point season too with a better Boston team.

 

[NDiesel]

Which only happened at home and he was going through a long dry spell/hardly on the score sheet for so long against the Canes as was previously discussed during the series. And no, he isn't far better than the players I mentioned. Stop with the rosy colored glasses for a minute. Both teams have good players.

I'm not the one with rosy colored glasses. One guys career high is 100, anothers is 81 and anothers is 69. Sure one day those two MIGHT be as good but as of today....really isn't that close. And I'm not saying that the gap is huge I'm just saying it isn't much of a debate at this moment.

 

[Sigurd]

I'm not the one with rosy colored glasses. One guys career high is 100, anothers is 81 and anothers is 69. Sure one day those two MIGHT be as good but as of today....really isn't that close. And I'm not saying that the gap is huge I'm just saying it isn't much of a debate at this moment.

Yeah, as your fellow Boston fan said, I'm talking about who is better today. You're referencing a 100 point season from several years ago.

At least you're not saying the gap is huge like NBwingsfan implied with saying Marchand is far better than them. He isn't a player that is far better than Aho and Svech; not today at least. You can only argue that years ago with the 100 point season. That's what I took issue with; him saying Marchand was far better. Not "today."

 

[Sheppy]

Oh, now you're dropping the far better to do damage control/walk your comment back. Also, yes, being younger is relevant when Aho and Svech are gonna be around for many more years in the league, and they haven't peaked yet. Marchand is part of an aging core from Boston (they already lost their longtime star player Chara), meanwhile, Aho and Svech are part of a young good core and have many more playoff runs ahead of them. Even if we buy the argument that Marchand is FAR better than them, he will have less cup runs than Aho and Svech left. Also, btw, Marchand was outscored by Aho this season in goals and points; so Aho stat wise has that in favor of him being better "today." I'm sure that doesn't matter to you even though you brought up him scoring 100 points in a season from back in 2018-2019; his only 100 point season too with a better Boston team.

Marchand played 9 less games, and had 1 less point than Aho.

He's paced for 100 points a season, 4 out of his last 5 seasons.

 

[Over the volcano]

Nice subtle way of saying Marchand is far better than these players while acting innocent about it, and setting yourself up to argue against anything I say.

Just like Marchand was struggling, hopefully they kick their game up a gear (even though they have made big plays in this series so far). I think the whole Canes team is at fault for the last two away games, and it's certainly hard for even all-star players like Aho to do much offensively when the team takes 9 penalties (Aho himself was in the box for 4 minutes last game). I'm not gonna metaphorically burn Aho and Svech at the stake for not putting the team on their backs yet since we still have games left of this series, but they need to clean their shit up along with the rest of the team after the away games. Thankfully though, we have depth so we don't have to rely on only 2-3 guys for point production.

No, it was and is an honest question. I don't really care how people rate those three against each other.

I was just wondering if you, or other Canes fans, see something in their games so far that I cant having not watched them as much over the course of the year.

 

[Bradely]

Let's agree Marchand and Aho are great players.

 

[Sigurd]

No, it was and is an honest question. I don't really care how people rate those three against each other.

I was just wondering if you, or other Canes fans, see something in their games so far that I cant having not watched them as much over the course of the year.

The truth is some of our players don't do much offensively for a few, or March onwards this season, several games in a row. Other players have to step up to replace that lost production. Trocheck has been great so far this series (minus the awful delay of game penalty when he wasn't under pressure since he had time and space to clear), but late in the season, his production dropped off noticeably particularly with goals. They have gone through cycles on an individual basis especially goal wise. Our depth thankfully has made up for the lack of some of the late year inconsistency.

Necas is the player I'm most disappointed with this season easily though. He looked like he was a young stud offensively that was only going to grow. This season however, has been very bland at best (mostly invisible when he isn't turning the puck over or falling down). I hope he can bounce back after this season, and it'd be especially great if he could bounce back before that in the playoffs.

 

[DangleCity]

Still going to be tough for Boston if they don't get back Lindholm and Charlie. Brown and Reilly played well yesterday, but it's going to be hard to ask those two to do the same thing for three more games

 

[Grigowski]

This game saw one team taking one stupid penalty after another and give away the game. And it wasn´t the Bruins.

 

[Ladyfan]

Attempting to quantify one over the other is hilarious, I'll only denote his behavior as a Hurricane but he's endeared himself to the fans often spending an hour or more after practice/games hanging out and doing whatever is asked he rides to practice with Jaccob Slavin and his Jaccobs kids every day.... (I don't think anyone can argue Slavin is one of the good guys in the league).

They can both be dirtbags obviously, As evidenced by Marchands NINE suspensions. Also what kind of demented person goes around licking people at the height of the pandemic?

Brad no longer licks people ( I agree that was strange) .

TDA is a racist. I would never want him on the Bs. He is a horrible person.

 

[Sigurd]

Let's agree Marchand and Aho are great players.

Best comment to have about that discussion.

 

[Mongo]

Attempting to quantify one over the other is hilarious, I'll only denote his behavior as a Hurricane but he's endeared himself to the fans often spending an hour or more after practice/games hanging out and doing whatever is asked he rides to practice with Jaccob Slavin and his Jaccobs kids every day.... (I don't think anyone can argue Slavin is one of the good guys in the league).

They can both be dirtbags obviously, As evidenced by Marchands NINE suspensions. Also what kind of demented person goes around licking people at the height of the pandemic?

To be fair, it was 2018 when he licked people and that was before the pandemic. Still weird and gross though.

 

[Bruin]

Still going to be tough for Boston if they don't get back Lindholm and Charlie. Brown and Reilly played well yesterday, but it's going to be hard to ask those two to do the same thing for three more games

They won't need to do it for 3 more games, Charley will be back for game 6, no idea about Lindholm though.

 

[wintersej]

DeBrusk clearly pushed his stick into the side of Raanta pad but because the puck was right between his legs he still had a good opportunity to still make the save.

Both DeBrusk and Pesce were pushing the pad from different angles. Its probably more DeBrusk, but hard to overturn an on-ice good goal when Pesce's stick was pushing the pad, too.

 

[wintersej]

Lindholm practiced with Bruins today, but has not YET been cleared for Game 5. McAvoy out for protocol reasons but "feeling better" so that bodes well for him being back in Game 6. Have to assume both Lindholm and McAvoy are back for Game 6.