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10% shooting among Vezina winners is among the best in the league
ECQF: Boston Bruins vs Toronto Maple Leafs (Series Tied 3-3)
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10% shooting among Vezina winners is among the best in the league
WarriorofTime
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Have the leafs ever even won the Atlantic division? I think part of the issue is leaf fans always think they’re right there but many times they finish right where they should
While the Canes and Rangers are for sure favored in their respective series, I think people have been far too generous projecting Leafs/Bruins to be a close series. I'd be far more surprised to see the underdog come out on top in this one than the other two.
Anything can happen in theory in the NHL. I do think people are kidding themselves if this being a short series in Boston's favor is remotely surprising.
It's not. Since Matthews first year in the playoffs, only 3 players among the top 50 playoff goal scorers have a worse shooting percentage.
A few examples (playoffs vs regular season):
Kucherov: 12.2 vs 14.4
McDavid: 16.6 vs 15.2
Crosby: 13.1 vs 14.5
Pastrnak: 11.5 vs 13.9
Stone: 17.7 vs 15.4
Draisaitl: 20.9 vs 18.2
Tavares: 11.7 vs 12.8
MacKinnon: 12.1 vs 10.6
Point: 19.7 vs 18.3
And I could go on...
And I repeat:
Matthews: 10.0 vs 16.2...
There is a very easy conclusion to draw from this...
Playing with wrist injuries that hamper your shot is probably the biggest reason for this. He has been an elite goal scorer in half of the series he's played in.
Is he the only player to play hurt during the playoffs ?
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They face different goalies and teams.
Matthews faced a Vezina winner nearly every year of his career. So far the only non-Vezina winner he faced was in the CBJ series.
No, but when he's played hurt it has brought his overall average down. He doesn't just go into the playoffs every year and forget how to score like the poplular narrative insists. He scored 5 goals in 6 games against Tampa, 4 goals in 7 games against Tampa, 5 goals in 7 games against Boston matched up against Bergeron, and 4 goals in 6 games against Washington as a rookie. He's played hurt in 3 of the other 4 series he played.
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Leafs fans are trying really hard to pump up Matthews.
No one is saying he is a bad player. But he doesn't step up in the playoffs, so I think that puts him down a peg among top players.
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Matthews is also the youngest player of all the players listed.
He's also one of the rare players who actually made the playoffs since his rookie year so it's included in his stats. He'd be better off not making the playoffs when he was young because his stats would be better. MacKinnon missed the playoffs for 4 of his first 5 years.
It's undeniable Matthews is a better player today than he was as a rookie. However, you used all his stats as a teenager, 20, 21, etc. to bring him down because unlike most of the others he was actually in the playoffs at a young age.
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Leafs starting another tremendous joke job in the playoffs once again.
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Keefe needs to put Marner back with Matthews in game 2. When your best players are struggling to be your best players, sometimes you need to put all your eggs in one basket to create a spark.
But this is Keefe we are talking about here. A Todd McLennan clone who fails to make adjustments.
But this is Keefe we are talking about here. A Todd McLennan clone who fails to make adjustments.
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how many years did he face the Vezina winner, the year they won the Vezina?
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That's not true at all, by far his best two years in terms of playoff shooting percentage were his 1st (25%) and 3rd (15.6%)
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I never said it was.. you were arguing that it was unfair to compare matthews playoff shooting percentage to a list of ten other players, because he was the youngest, and his playoff shooting % is skewed because he made the playoffs as a younger player..
i am merely pointing out that your argument holds no water, as his % was best in his 1st and 3rd years..
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I don't care about his shooting percentage. That was some Habs fans latest findings that they were researching this playoffs to discredit Matthews.
In terms of total playoff points, Matthews highest production has been the last 2 seasons where he was at or above PPG. However, when you add the stats that Matthews had a teenager and a second year player (when most of the players he was compared to missed the playoffs or weren't even in the NHL) of course his average drops.
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so then don't reply to a post about shooting percentage arguing it if you have no idea whether what youre saying is actually true or not.. i'm done here.. carry on
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I thought it was evident. I didn't know people took shooting percentage so seriously.
Ian Cole had a 100% shooting percentage in last years playoffs. MVP.
It's only suddenly not important when his house of cards arguement crumbles.
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I was never the one to bring up shooting percentage.
If you want to make a list of the best NHL players of all time based on shooting percentage, be my guest.
Who's #1?
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