GDT: ECF Game 1: Panthers @ Hurricanes | 8:00 p.m. on TNT

Navin R Slavin

Fifth line center
Jan 1, 2011
16,369
64,800
Durrm NC
That’s a huge part of it. Say I have an $85 ticket (which is what the cheapest seats are right now), I also have to pay taxes on that which comes to $91 and change. Say I go to sell that on Ticketmaster for $100, they’re going to take $10 of fees out of the the sale. I end up with -$1 on a ticket that went up in value by $15.


People that have never resold a ticket before… read that paragraph again. My ticket increased in value by nearly 20%, and I lost money between taxes and Ticketmaster fees.

Meanwhile, some guy comes along to buy my ticket. He’s paying $100 for the ticket, $7 in taxes, $11 in service fees, and a $5 processing free for a total of $124.

So the buyer is paying $124 for an $85 (or generously $91) ticket… but none of that extra $41 went to the reseller. In the series of transactions, the buyers paid $17 in taxes and Ticketmaster pocketed $26.

You want to know why there are empty seats at playoff games, this is why. It will be called a sellout because the tickets were actually sold to somebody, but they remain empty because there’s no resale market whatsoever at these price points. It’s not the scalpers that are the issue here, it’s Ticketmaster acting like a scalper while having (by their own measure) only $5 worth of actual investment in the process.

Congress should have broken up this bullshit a long time ago. TM is the most blatantly anti-competitive, anti-consumer entity since the big cable companies.
The problem is deeper than that, because there's collusion between TM and the venues. A lot of the fees you pay to TM are essentially kickbacks to the venues. I'm amazed that there haven't been actual investigations.
 
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Sigurd

Slavin, our Lord and Saver (AKA Extra Goalie)
Feb 4, 2018
1,852
5,312
North Carolina
Here's a question for our group.
Would any one of McDavid, Marner, Matthews or Nylander be an asset
to the 'Canes winning a Cup 'cause of Slavin and Company?
In other words, if Jaccob was playing for the Oilers or the Leafs would they
still be in the running for a Stanley Cup?
With our injuries, missing Slavin would most likely be the nail in the coffin for Carolina's playoff success this year. If not by now, then in the ECF.

On the other hand, if Slavin was playing for either the Oilers or Leafs, I think they'd have a higher chance of getting to at least the semi finals. Both teams need to improve their defense and lower the GAA. Slavin does all that and more.
 

zman77

Registered User
Oct 1, 2015
14,575
36,416
Projected Line-Up Tonight:

Forwards:


Noesen - Aho - Jarvis

Martinook - Kotkaniemi - Fast

Teravainen - Staal - Necas

Drury - Stastny - Stepan

Defense:

Slavin - Burns

Skjei - Pesce

Gostisbehere - Chatfield

Goalies:

Andersen

Raanta



Injuries:

N/A

Injured Reserve:

Jake Gardiner (Upper-Body)

Ondrej Kase (Concussion Protocol)

Max Pacioretty (Torn Achilles Tendon)

Andrei Svechnikov (ACL Injury)

Scratches:

Dylan Coghlan

Calvin de Haan

Mackenzie MacEachern

Jesse Puljujarvi
 

LakeLivin

Armchair Quarterback
Mar 11, 2016
5,126
15,128
North Carolina
Repeating this hoping to add more positive juju to the gdt:

Rose Bowl.jpg


What do Summer Rose's bowling teammates say when it's her turn?
 

Identity404

I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious
Nov 5, 2005
2,896
7,270
Washington DC
The problem is deeper than that, because there's collision between TM and the venues. A lot of the fees you pay to TM are essentially kickbacks to the venues. I'm amazed that there haven't been actual investigations.
Ticketmaster owns Live Nation, who own a lot of event venues, so most of thos kickbacks are still going to themselves.
 

tarheelhockey

Offside Review Specialist
Feb 12, 2010
86,644
144,076
Bojangles Parking Lot
The problem is deeper than that, because there's collision between TM and the venues. A lot of the fees you pay to TM are essentially kickbacks to the venues. I'm amazed that there haven't been actual investigations.

They’ve already been busted giving discounts to the bulk-resellers to keep the charade going.
 

chaz4hockey

Old man but still a PP2 Candidate
Sponsor
Jan 21, 2021
8,398
17,879
Naples, FL
That’s a huge part of it. Say I have an $85 ticket (which is what the cheapest seats are right now), I also have to pay taxes on that which comes to $91 and change. Say I go to sell that on Ticketmaster for $100, they’re going to take $10 of fees out of the the sale. I end up with -$1 on a ticket that went up in value by $15.


People that have never resold a ticket before… read that paragraph again. My ticket increased in value by nearly 20%, and I lost money between taxes and Ticketmaster fees.

Meanwhile, some guy comes along to buy my ticket. He’s paying $100 for the ticket, $7 in taxes, $11 in service fees, and a $5 processing free for a total of $124.

So the buyer is paying $124 for an $85 (or generously $91) ticket… but none of that extra $41 went to the reseller. In the series of transactions, the buyers paid $17 in taxes and Ticketmaster pocketed $26.

You want to know why there are empty seats at playoff games, this is why. It will be called a sellout because the tickets were actually sold to somebody, but they remain empty because there’s no resale market whatsoever at these price points. It’s not the scalpers that are the issue here, it’s Ticketmaster acting like a scalper while having (by their own measure) only $5 worth of actual investment in the process.

Congress should have broken up this bullshit a long time ago. TM is the most blatantly anti-competitive, anti-consumer entity since the big cable companies.
GREAT POST.

Cynic side of me thinks that Government hasn’t acted because beyond lobbyists working on their side, Governments are the co-benefiter of this rip-off by taking in the $17. Those are the least costly seats…

Plug in a couple of $250 seats and Ticketmaster/Government really makes out for same effort.
 

cptjeff

Reprehensible User
Sep 18, 2008
21,833
39,342
Washington, DC.
Here's a question for our group.
Would any one of McDavid, Marner, Matthews or Nylander be an asset
to the 'Canes winning a Cup 'cause of Slavin and Company?
In other words, if Jaccob was playing for the Oilers or the Leafs would they
still be in the running for a Stanley Cup?
If you added Slavin to either the Leafs or Oilers, they wouldn't just be competing for Cups, they already would have won at least one. Zero question in my mind.

As Rod said recently, he may just be the single best defensive player ever, not just in the league right now. That's something you dismiss when a fan says it, it's impossible to reliably quantify, but when a guy who has been watching, competing in, and coaching in the NHL for more than 40 year says it, you really have to take note. Add that to either of those lineups? Of course they're still playing.

His name needs to be on the Cup. Let's f***ing win this thing.
 

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