Especially since I've seen some of those goals Lindberg allowed. Hell Tampa could have won a game with Lindberg in net, if not for horrible officiating.
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Especially since I've seen some of those goals Lindberg allowed. Hell Tampa could have won a game with Lindberg in net, if not for horrible officiating.
You'd have to ask the habs fans who used that comment. I didn't...
You can't generalize
Seriously though, Montreal's game 2 was better than any game TBL had vs montreal. Just saying. They weren't that great after game 1.
aufheben
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Bishop could have stolen the series. He's right though that the Habs skated circles around that team.
I shouldn't post on the GDT - I have a superstition that every time I do, we lose.
But I think you are completely off base here. A player is only as good as the situation that he is put in. Poo was put in a top 6 role his entire career and failed. Vigneault put him on the 3rd line and, situationally, he has turned out to be an excellent player.
Boyle has been one of our best players throughout the post season. He would be completely out of place on the first line with Kreider and Nash.
You put players in a position that optimizes their talent. Moore has offensive ability, but what makes him one of our "best players in the post season" is the fact that these abilities are better than comparable players on comparable lines. He's an exceptional 4th liner and penalty killer. Exceptional.
But I think the decision to put him on the first line will be as successful as AV's decision to make Stepan, Nash, and MSL our first line, too. The strength of our offense this season has been the balance. Having Moore on the 4th line only means that we tinker with 1 line's chemistry. Putting him on the 1st means that 2 of our lines will now be new. I think that's a lot bigger of a disadvantage than putting Miller on the 1st line - with a player he already has chemistry with from the AHL - for the first 2 periods, and then being able to substitute D. Moore into that line for defensive situations in the 3rd period.
But hey, I guess to each his own. Torts' mentality of playing players in positions that they weren't optimized clearly worked out for him.
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You'd have to ask the habs fans who used that comment. I didn't...
You can't generalize
Seriously though, Montreal's game 2 was better than any game TBL had vs montreal. Just saying. They weren't that great after game 1.
Something tells me that the Habs fans making injury excuses this series weren't making the same excuses for Bishop. Take the "you" as a general "you" I guess.
aufheben
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How has Dominic Moore not been one of our best players? JT has a lot of potential, but Game 4 of the Conference Finals you don't go with potential, you go with the guy who's been getting it done all post-season.
Be it as it may, I think you're ignoring the fact Montreal outplayed TB significantly. After game 2 I just laid in my couch relaxed.
We can agree to disagree but no need to get defensive. Not trying to troll by any means.
I hope for a good game tonight. Cheers!
So, two years ago when we were in desperate need of an offensive and energetic boost, Torts should have totally put in a wily vet over Kreider, right?
Cause who cares about potential, anyway....
Did you post this much on the Lightning & Bruins board during those series?
A little bit, why not? Problem?
Of course it matters how bad they were dominated. It may have stretched the series out a bit longer, but there was no doubt that the habs were the better team. The better team, in an ideal world, is who should advance. If the habs had only scraped by a bishopless tampa team, I'd have been pretty disappointed. It was one of the few times i thought we got some good coaching out of Therrien this year.
I'm not saying he wouldn't have made a difference, only that looking back at the series now, the habs were clearly the much better team. So, sure, Bishop might have stolen a few games and maybe even upset the habs, but had they got through to the 2nd round they'd have been massacred. Goalies very rarely play that hot for that long. Same as tokarski's win. the W is great and all but it doesn't give me much faith about the team playing in front of him.
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Miller with Nash and Kreider would be fine if AV matches lines and gives them offensive zone starts, probably easier for the kid to step in and try create offensively than worry about shutting down the Habs top line. Whatever the situation I am confident we will be fine.
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Completely different situation. This team doesn't need Miller's help offensively, they need to continue their game plan. Moore has more than adequate offensive skills for the time being, and is one of our best defensive players. You don't just slot in a raw prospect who hasn't played in 3 weeks as your 1st line center. Especially not between Chris Kreider and Rick Nash.
Dominic Moore isn't a risk. At worst he'll win face-offs, play good defense, and forecheck hard. At best, he'll still do all those things and pick up a point or two. We don't need more than 1 line that is all offense, no defense.
I think it'd be a big risk, and would disagree with AV for going with it.
Dominic Moore isn't a risk. At worst he'll win face-offs, play good defense, and forecheck hard. At best, he'll still do all those things and pick up a point or two. We don't need more than 1 line that is all offense, no defense.
I think it'd be a big risk, and would disagree with AV for going with it.
Dominic Moore should go back between Brian Boyle and Derek Dorsett. Derick Brassard goes back between Benoit Pouliot and Mats Zuccarello. The Brad Richards line remain intact. Put JT Miller between Chris Kreider and Rick Nash. That's the Rangers best line-up. Miller is a natural center. Moore is better fit on the 4th line. Asking him to contribute offensively on a top line is asking for too much. The Rangers are a 4 line team. People like to dump over Miller like they dumped over Kreider.
The game plan is, and should continue to be, having a balanced attack.
How does tinkering with not 1, but 2 lines, benefit that game plan? It doesn't.
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Huge game today, take a commanding 3-1 lead or let this become a best of 3... Work hard, ignore all the horse ****, and get the w. They are so close they can taste it, worry about getting back at MTL next season in a meaningless regular season game. Stakes are too high to get sucked in to their idiocy
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Yeah that is crazy, something like putting Dubinsky with Jagr his rookie season. Bananas.
The 1st line? They all seem to be used pretty evenly and it's an arbitrary label, especially when for a majority of the season/playoffs the Pouliot-Brassard-Zuccarello line carried our offense.
Yes Moore is adequate... Adequate doesn't necessarily win you games.
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It's hard to draw exact parallels in sports... The situations aren't the same, but the goal is.
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aufheben
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I just don't consider JT's offensive prowess [at this point in his career] to be so much greater than D. Moore's that it justifies the inevitably countless defensive mistakes that line will make. I think JT should be given as little responsibility as possible, 4th line wing. Just IMO.
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