Proposal: Eberle to Islanders

[LordNeverLose]

IMO there'd need to be a + or salary retention on Boychuk. If he were signed for 2-3 years less the value would be much closer. What do you have in terms of forward prospects (outside of Barzal) that you'd be willing to add to even it out?

I doubt they'd add any of Barzal, MDC, Bellows, Beauvillier, or Ho-Sang. And after that it's pretty bleak. Next best is either Quine (if he counts as a prospect) or Golyshev

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I doubt they'd add any of Barzal, MDC, Bellows, Beauvillier, or Ho-Sang. And after that it's pretty bleak. Next best is either Quine (if he counts as a prospect) or Golyshev

Without a nice add of some salary retention I don't see how it makes much sense for us. If he were 2 years younger, sure but at 32 signed until he's 38 at $6 million AAV that could really bite a team in the butt in the last half of the deal.

 

[LordNeverLose]

Without a nice add of some salary retention I don't see how it makes much sense for us. If he were 2 years younger, sure but at 32 signed until he's 38 at $6 million AAV that could really bite a team in the butt in the last half of the deal.

Agreed, but he is still a top4 RHD, which is why it would make sense as that is something Edmonton needs. He's also by all accounts a great leader, something that would be helpful on such a young team that, no insult meant by this, lacks veteran leaders with playoff experience.

 

[voxel]

Agreed, but he is still a top4 RHD, which is why it would make sense as that is something Edmonton needs. He's also by all accounts a great leader, something that would be helpful on such a young team that, no insult meant by this, lacks veteran leaders with playoff experience.

Boychuk fills a need for sure, but only if he came cheap... like two 2nds. That contract is a very big negative.

If the Isles want cap flexibility and vet leader with playoff experience (went to Cup finals with Devils) then a Fayne for Boychuk swap would work.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Agreed, but he is still a top4 RHD, which is why it would make sense as that is something Edmonton needs. He's also by all accounts a great leader, something that would be helpful on such a young team that, no insult meant by this, lacks veteran leaders with playoff experience.

Trust me I have interest in him as a player, however I have heard less than glowing reports from some Islanders fans over the course of this season and his contract is not a cheap one if his play falls off a cliff. No insult taken, I can tell by your posts that you are interested in a genuinely respectful discussion so all good there! I just think that with no salary retention we'd need something else of substance with value that we could eventually plug into the lineup or use as trade or to stock our prospect cupboard. Something that would be exempt from the expansion draft.

Hypothetically Eberle completely bombs, you are on the hook for 3 years and then his salary comes off the books. Now if Boychuk bombs we are on the hook for 6 years. He is not 28 like Lucic is, he is already 32. I have no issue with Boychuk the player, as a matter of fact I was REALLY hoping that we'd land him before he was traded to your team. His contract though could be a killer for us especially when McDavid will be eating up probably $10 million or so in cap.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Boychuk fills a need for sure, but only if he came cheap... like two 2nds. That contract is a very big negative.

If the Isles want cap flexibility and vet leader with playoff experience (went to Cup finals with Devils) then a Fayne for Boychuk swap would work.

Fayne would be a 3rd pairing guy there and even with Boychuk's contract I think that that trade would be terrible for them because of the drop off from Boychuk to Fayne over the next 2-3 years at minimum. Mayfield is also probably close to waiver eligible by now and he brings a lot more bite to his game than Fayne does and at a cheaper price.

 

[A1LeafNation]

If Hall = Larsson then Dahaan = Eberle + RNH

 

[Bryanbryoil]

If Hall = Larsson then Dahaan = Eberle + RNH

And Rielly = Stamkos, oops, too soon?

de Haan is a good player but he doesn't shoot right or run a PP so he doesn't make a ton of sense for us especially if the cost is RNH.

 

[CREW99AW]

Islanders seem to still need a top line RW. Does Eberle fit that role? How much would it cost?

de Haan plus MDC/2017 1st?

Thanks for reading.

#1.Last I checked, the Isles had about $5m in cap space with 2-3 rfa left to sign. Plus they will want to keep some room so they can make TDL additions.Don't see how they can bring in a $6m player.

#2. Staple said before the draft and post draft, that the isles would not give up a lot for Eberle. So, no.de Haan plus MDC/2017 1st does not work for the NYI.

 

[CREW99AW]

Trust me I have interest in him as a player, however I have heard less than glowing reports from some Islanders fans over the course of this season and his contract is not a cheap one if his play falls off a cliff. No insult taken, I can tell by your posts that you are interested in a genuinely respectful discussion so all good there! I just think that with no salary retention we'd need something else of substance with value that we could eventually plug into the lineup or use as trade or to stock our prospect cupboard. Something that would be exempt from the expansion draft.

Hypothetically Eberle completely bombs, you are on the hook for 3 years and then his salary comes off the books. Now if Boychuk bombs we are on the hook for 6 years. He is not 28 like Lucic is, he is already 32. I have no issue with Boychuk the player, as a matter of fact I was REALLY hoping that we'd land him before he was traded to your team. His contract though could be a killer for us especially when McDavid will be eating up probably $10 million or so in cap.

Strength of the nyi team is that very solid D.
I would rather have Boychuk then Eberle.
And I am not even particularly wild about Boychuk and his contract.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Strength of the nyi team is that very solid D.
I would rather have Boychuk then Eberle.
And I am not even particularly wild about Boychuk and his contract.

Fair enough, how was Boychuks play last season compared to his first with the Islanders?

 

[Soundwave]

Don't see a fit here, now that the Oilers have Larsson they're not nearly as desperate for D help and the Islanders don't have the type of player they would want back there.

Eberle is the only guy on the Oilers who can reliably score 25-30 goals now too, don't see them shipping him off. He's needed to shelter Puljujarvi.

You can't have McDavid-Draisaitl-Nugent Hopkins with no winger depth.

 

[LordNeverLose]

Fair enough, how was Boychuks play last season compared to his first with the Islanders?

Definitely worse.

First season he looked like a high end #2, last season he looked more like a 3/4. Hopefully he bounces back

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Fair enough, how was Boychuks play last season compared to his first with the Islanders?

Not as good but not nearly as bad as some fans make it out to be. He wasn't good in the playoffs where he usually excels, but I think he was just bruised up. He'll be good after a summer of rest.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Definitely worse.

First season he looked like a high end #2, last season he looked more like a 3/4. Hopefully he bounces back

Not as good but not nearly as bad as some fans make it out to be. He wasn't good in the playoffs where he usually excels, but I think he was just bruised up. He'll be good after a summer of rest.

Thanks guys. That's the worry when a guy hits his 30's especially mid 30's which he isn't at just yet, is he just banged up or is it the beginning of the end of him as an effective player? If he bounces back next season then he's more attractive as a trade target or as part of the team going forward in NY's case.

 

[belair]

If Hall = Larsson then Dahaan = Eberle + RNH

 

[Otto91]

Please Stop Eberle is not going to be Moved! If Oilers Move a Player it will be RNH or Nail...And there is No deal with Islanders.

 

[CREW99AW]

Fair enough, how was Boychuks play last season compared to his first with the Islanders?

Somewhere on the NYI board are my comments made during the 2015-2016 season, that Leddy and Boychuk were not as good in their 2nd NYI seasons, as they had been in their first seasons. I went on to say that Hamonic and CDH were doing the heavy lifting.

the post season saw just the opposite. Leddy and Boychuk raised their level of play, while Hamonic was ok and CDH disappointing.

Anyway, Boychuk has a full ntc for another 3 seasons. He and his wife are building a house. I doubt he waives that ntc.

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Somewhere on the NYI board are my comments made during the 2015-2016 season, that Leddy and Boychuk were not as good in their 2nd NYI seasons, as they had been in their first seasons. I went on to say that Hamonic and CDH were doing the heavy lifting.

the post season saw just the opposite. Leddy and Boychuk raised their level of play, while Hamonic was ok and CDH disappointing.

Anyway, Boychuk has a full nmc for another 3 seasons. He and his wife are building a house. I doubt he waives that ntc.

Leddy had a bad first 15-20 games but after that I thought he was even better than he was in 2014-15. He's a majestic creature that Nick Leddy.

 

[StevenB]

Edmonton just traded Hall, why would they give up their next best winger? Unless a top 4 damn is coming back, Edmonton won't trade Eberle.

 

[CREW99AW]

Leddy had a bad first 15-20 games but after that I thought he was even better than he was in 2014-15. He's a majestic creature that Nick Leddy.

I thought Hamonic and CHD were the ones having strong regular seasons.

 

[ManofSteel55]

If Hall = Larsson then Dahaan = Eberle + RNH

Us overpaying for Larsson doesn't have a huge affect on other trades. New Jersey knew that they had us over a barrel and that Chiarelli had to do something. Since getting Larsson, we aren't nearly as desperate and no longer have to overpay.

 

[LordNeverLose]

Somewhere on the NYI board are my comments made during the 2015-2016 season, that Leddy and Boychuk were not as good in their 2nd NYI seasons, as they had been in their first seasons. I went on to say that Hamonic and CDH were doing the heavy lifting.

the post season saw just the opposite. Leddy and Boychuk raised their level of play, while Hamonic was ok and CDH disappointing.

Anyway, Boychuk has a full ntc for another 3 seasons. He and his wife are building a house. I doubt he waives that ntc.

He's from Edmonton though, so I think there's a shot

 

[LordNeverLose]

Edmonton just traded Hall, why would they give up their next best winger? Unless a top 4 damn is coming back, Edmonton won't trade Eberle.

Um, if you bothered to read the thread, the two names being thrown around are CDH and Boychuk

 

[ManofSteel55]

Um, if you bothered to read the thread, the two names being thrown around are CDH and Boychuk

Neither of which are interesting for Eberle.