Eastside Hockey Manager - Part X Patch 1.5 Edition! (Open Beta)

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Can we all agree that this is right up there amongst greatest hockey games of all time? Any news on the development of EHM2?

No EHM 2 talk.

I believe Riz has said he wants to push maybe one more update or two and go from there.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Not an EHM2 but future patches yes, there is a patch in the works that will add some features to databases to make things more realistic (especially for junior leagues) and fix some long-standing issues. I'll share more when I can.

I wonder if Center AvRs will ever be fixed...granted it's not game-breaking, but I rarely have a 2-4C above 7 even if they're really good

 

[GKJ]

I’m back working on my World Cup after being on vacation, neutral site with selected arena, one 10-team pool (since I couldn’t get separated pools the way I wanted it), its disobeying my schedule dates and I have no random dates picked to true, and it’s leading to my playoff structure being totally out of wack.

 

[nick52480]

Hey guys....sorry to be a pain quick question. Used to play EHM back in day probably over 10 years ago. Are we still able to purchase or download? If so can you still get updated patch with current rosters? Sorry if this is a redundant question just wanted to get back into this.

Thank you!

 

[GKJ]

Hey guys....sorry to be a pain quick question. Used to play EHM back in day probably over 10 years ago. Are we still able to purchase or download? If so can you still get updated patch with current rosters? Sorry if this is a redundant question just wanted to get back into this.

Thank you!

Yeah you can get all of it through steam

 

[Treb]

Hey guys....sorry to be a pain quick question. Used to play EHM back in day probably over 10 years ago. Are we still able to purchase or download? If so can you still get updated patch with current rosters? Sorry if this is a redundant question just wanted to get back into this.

Thank you!

I assume you were playing EHM 07. That game is not available for purchase anymore.

However, they made a new game a few years ago which is on Steam and is still actively (although slowly) being updated.

On the Steam workshop, you can find updated rosters including a great one by our own @xECK29x . You can also find logo updates, facepacks and the like.

If you want something more special, you can check the work of @BKarchitect with NHL X. The link to that one is somewhere in the thread although you can probably google it too.

 

[nick52480]

I assume you were playing EHM 07. That game is not available for purchase anymore.

However, they made a new game a few years ago which is on Steam and is still actively (although slowly) being updated.

On the Steam workshop, you can find updated rosters including a great one by our own @xECK29x . You can also find logo updates, facepacks and the like.

If you want something more special, you can check the work of @BKarchitect with NHL X. The link to that one is somewhere in the thread although you can probably google it too.

Yes I was playing 07 back in the day and thank you guys so much for the info will definitely look into Steam asap.

 

[GKJ]

Ok, I reworked what I was doing into different tournaments, but now I can't get NHL players selected. I don't think it's because the tournament is in August, because I did have them getting picked before. I have the reputation set at 20 and NHL at 19. What am I missing?

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Ok, I reworked what I was doing into different tournaments, but now I can't get NHL players selected. I don't think it's because the tournament is in August, because I did have them getting picked before. I have the reputation set at 20 and NHL at 19. What am I missing?

What's your setup? Are these all the National teams? There's definitely some weirdness getting players to play during certain times during the year. Summer (June - early September) has mixed results.

NHL (or whichever league is at League ID=0) overrides any reputation settings. Top tier players will prefer (and even refuse to negotiate) for any other league, even if Reputation is well above.

As a test I swapped League and team reputations between the KHL and the NHL. (KHL rep to 20, NHL rep to 17; KHL team reps to 9000-10000, NHL teams to 6000-7000). Changed Russia league Standard to 20.

Made several high profile players of Euro and NA nationalities free agents. Initial almost all of them would not even negotiate with the KHL teams, even Russian stars.

As for the International Tournaments, they need to happen during specific periods (February, May I think are hard coded have the best results).

 

[GKJ]

What's your setup? Are these all the National teams? There's definitely some weirdness getting players to play during certain times during the year. Summer (June - early September) has mixed results.

NHL (or whichever league is at League ID=0) overrides any reputation settings. Top tier players will prefer (and even refuse to negotiate) for any other league, even if Reputation is well above.

As a test I swapped League and team reputations between the KHL and the NHL. (KHL rep to 20, NHL rep to 17; KHL team reps to 9000-10000, NHL teams to 6000-7000). Changed Russia league Standard to 20.

Made several high profile players of Euro and NA nationalities free agents. Initial almost all of them would not even negotiate with the KHL teams, even Russian stars.

As for the International Tournaments, they need to happen during specific periods (February, May I think are hard coded have the best results).

This is national teams, specifically a reimagining of the World Cup. I was able to get NHL players in an August start date before.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

This is national teams, specifically a reimagining of the World Cup. I was able to get NHL players in an August start date before.

Are you doing a start date of an early or mid August start date? I would play around with the comp init. dates and see if the results are different. Play around with priority in the different league settings.

 

[GKJ]

Are you doing a start date of an early or mid August start date? I would play around with the comp init. dates and see if the results are different. Play around with priority in the different league settings.

I have it as a two separate tournaments, so a tournament where they qualify to the upper competition. The first starts August 20 (4 concurrent stages of 4 teams) and the next starts August 28 (8-team stage). I was able to get it with just one comp that started August 23, but I couldn’t get my dates sorted out right with a 10-team group stage (plus playoff stage) (concurrent stages I couldn’t get more than one stage at a time in the right arena, for my current qualifier I still can’t get in big enough arenas).

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

I have it as a two separate tournaments, so a tournament where they qualify to the upper competition. The first starts August 20 (4 concurrent stages of 4 teams) and the next starts August 28 (8-team stage). I was able to get it with just one comp that started August 23, but I couldn’t get my dates sorted out right with a 10-team group stage (plus playoff stage) (concurrent stages I couldn’t get more than one stage at a time in the right arena, for my current qualifier I still can’t get in big enough arenas).

If you want to dm me (can exchange discord info, I could help look it over for you later this weekend)

 

[AlexanderTheGood]

No EHM 2 talk.

I believe Riz has said he wants to push maybe one more update or two and go from there.

Honestly, this game has provided me so much bang for my buck, that they could do a small patch, call it EMH2 and I'd be happy to pay them $45 for it. Take my money Riz!

 

[ReHabs]

Silly question but why is it when it came to the draft that I had zero reports on hand despite having drafted the entry draft extensively all year?

 

[xECK29x]

Silly question but why is it when it came to the draft that I had zero reports on hand despite having drafted the entry draft extensively all year?

What do you mean by "on hand"? The way the draft scouting screen works is it only includes scouting reports currently in your scouts list at the time of the draft if you are using "scout" as the filter in the draft screen.

 

[ReHabs]

What do you mean by "on hand"? The way the draft scouting screen works is it only includes scouting reports currently in your scouts list at the time of the draft if you are using "scout" as the filter in the draft screen.

I’ve passed the draft period already so can’t check but it had empty columns under scout 1/2/3 reports. At the bottom there were suggestions from my coaches and scouts but nothing in the main page. Are you saying I should’ve fiddled with the draft page filter and choses the specific scouts to see their reports?

 

[GKJ]

If you want to dm me (can exchange discord info, I could help look it over for you later this weekend)

I can do that, do you have Dropbox?

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

I can do that, do you have Dropbox?

I don't have an account anymore, but any large file sharing site should work.

Just dm me with the info.

 

[xECK29x]

I’ve passed the draft period already so can’t check but it had empty columns under scout 1/2/3 reports. At the bottom there were suggestions from my coaches and scouts but nothing in the main page. Are you saying I should’ve fiddled with the draft page filter and choses the specific scouts to see their reports?

Yep! Next time you draft (or if you want to go back to an earlier save if you have it) when it's your pick go to View -> Scouting Report, then you can have up to five scouts selected here, its always a good idea to make sure you have several scouts on the Entry Draft ~2 months before the draft so they have full queues of reports (set some to Ignore Well Known to find more overagers or potential gems).

Just remember these aren't all your historical reports, which is a shame but its a good idea to assign 5 scouts to the draft in late April so they have full queues by June to help fill this out.

 

[pnep]

beta 1.5
[2022-23] xECK29x's Premier Pivot Database (v7.0.2)



too many unrealistic demotions of old stars to ahl by ai teams

also Malkin played in AHL his last 2 season, screenshot not saved

 

[xECK29x]

beta 1.5
[2022-23] xECK29x's Premier Pivot Database (v7.0.2)



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also Malkin played in AHL his last 2 season, screenshot not saved

Not much I can do to control that with the database you are 5 years in, those guys have to be close to 40, likely 2-3 star players now? It all comes down to the depth chart and if the AI feels it has better options it will demote players to save cap.

 

[AlexanderTheGood]

This Is a great game and a great community! However, one thing that makes things a bit more difficult - whether it be one learning game tactics or immersing oneself in said community - is the over-abundance of subcommunities. Between here, TBL, Reddit, Steam, and a few Discord servers, It seems like there are five or six different places to discuss the game. Is that intentional? It makes finding information more difficult than it needs to be, IMO.

As for future updates, have any GM games accounted for the important role of agents? EHM EA makes reference to agents, but I think it would be neat if agents had their own non-player profiles and a larger role in the game. Player agents could add a ton of value to the game and add an additional touch of realism, as it would be difficult to overstate their importance in today's real world NHL.

 

[WhoahNow]

Is there any trick to get the coach to pick 4 forwards on the pp or will they just always default to 3F 2D?

 

[Treb]

This Is a great game and a great community! However, one thing that makes things a bit more difficult - whether it be one learning game tactics or immersing oneself in said community - is the over-abundance of subcommunities. Between here, TBL, Reddit, Steam, and a few Discord servers, It seems like there are five or six different places to discuss the game. Is that intentional? It makes finding information more difficult than it needs to be, IMO.

As for future updates, have any GM games accounted for the important role of agents? EHM EA makes reference to agents, but I think it would be neat if agents had their own non-player profiles and a larger role in the game. Player agents could add a ton of value to the game and add an additional touch of realism, as it would be difficult to overstate their importance in today's real world NHL.

Pretty sure TBL is the OG community.
The big guys on HF for EHM are also on TBL (at least last I checked a while ago, IDK if they are still active there), but it's inevitable there would be discussion about a hockey game on HF.
Discord/Steam/Reddit have stuff for everything, so not surprised there are some floating around.

I don't think it's intentional, more of a result of the internet being the way it is. Maybe Sports Interactive could have put more effort in popularizing the official forum ( Eastside Hockey Manager ) but I think everybody knows they are pretty much treating this game as a freebie and giving as small of an help they can to Riz to keep cashing in on his passion. Their game is FM and it shows.

I don't think EHM will incorporate a detailed agent system as it would just clutter the simulation to have agents for like 60k players. It's already quite an heavy game if you run several leagues. It would require a lot of optimization before it could handle all the traffic.

In my limited knowledge, it's also why offers are one way only, as in you offer to the player and the sim chooses the offer it likes the most. If you had actual negotiations with players, it would have to sim negotiations with all the other CPU team and you computer goes boom.