Dynasty Building XXXVII: Improving On A Cup Winning Team

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think the only reason we'd move Nikishin is because we realize he'd have more value as a trade piece than he would playing 3rd pairing or on his offside for us. And since we have guys like CAL who can play the 3rd pairing and not look out of place, Nikishin becomes movable

But moving him for a defenseman to create the same issue, except it'll be Slavin or Miller playing that 3rd pairing/offside, doesn't make sense.

I still maintain we're putting feelers out there because someone was dumb enough to give a top 5 pick for Byram and we're like "Well, if teams are going to overpay for young defenseman..."

While I agree with what you said from my personal viewpoint, I'm not sure the Canes front office views it that way. Dundon said from day 1 that it's his job to find players better than what we have and it's the players job to make that hard for him. Tulsky has echoed the same sentiments that they are always looking to upgrade, even though it's a lot harder now that they are so good and won the cup.

If the Canes front office can get an elite player like Werenski, I think they do it and will figure out the fit. Same goes for forwards. They've shown they aren't afraid to stick guys like Ehlers and Jarvis on the "3rd" line with Staal and make it work.

I'm not sure if the smoke around Nikishin is just BS, or as you said, the Canes seeing what teams might offer, or legit because of fit/contract etc....Just commenting on how I think the front office operates.

 

[MinJaBen]

I’m not convinced we’re even the ones putting feelers out there. I imagine other teams are calling about him and we are listening in case some offer does blow us away. But I highly doubt we’re shopping him or actively calling teams about him.

You know, @bleedgreen got the reputation for responding to the "Bat Signal" when someone mentioned Francis...are you trying to also get the same reputation for responding to every Nikishin trade discussion?

 

[Identity404]

I could see us trading Nikishin as part of a package for Werenski.

Nikishin, Nadeau, 2x 2027 1 rd picks.

Outside of that I could see Larkin or Helle being a target.

Helle is a bit too old and costs too much for my tastes, plus has that aura around not stepping up during the playoffs. I’m also not sure if he is the type of goaltender that in excel without seeing a lot of rubber and good at stoping high danger shots… can someone here fill me in?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I think a wrinkle in this will be Slavin. He's 32. He's coming off a major injury. I can't imagine he'll be the Slavin we're familiar with for too many more years, even with his style of play being very close to immune from the typical downfalls of aging players.

Werenski makes sense if we're concerned about how Slavin will look after this year and a few years down the line.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I think a wrinkle in this will be Slavin. He's 32. He's coming off a major injury. I can't imagine he'll be the Slavin we're familiar with for too many more years, even with his style of play being very close to immune from the typical downfalls of aging players.

Werenski makes sense if we're concerned about how Slavin will look after this year and a few years down the line.

Or if they want to win 2 or 3 cups in a row right now.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Colorado is taking a bit of a swing here on a couple of former mid-to-late 1st rounders as potential young bottom-six infusions, while CMac takes the more proven Jack Drury to be his 3C or 4C. Interesting deal for both sides.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

You know, @bleedgreen got the reputation for responding to the "Bat Signal" when someone mentioned Francis...are you trying to also get the same reputation for responding to every Nikishin trade discussion?

I thought I already had that reputation! Guess I gotta up my game

 

[LakeLivin]

I think a wrinkle in this will be Slavin. He's 32. He's coming off a major injury. I can't imagine he'll be the Slavin we're familiar with for too many more years, even with his style of play being very close to immune from the typical downfalls of aging players.

Werenski makes sense if we're concerned about how Slavin will look after this year and a few years down the line.

If only we'd been able to pry a d-man like KEY from the Rags to cover such a scenario lol . . .

Not saying we shouldn't check out Werenski if he's available, can't have too good a Defense, but given what we've seen so far I'm thinking we've already got some pretty good Slavin insurance in house.

 

[Borsig]

Drury gonna be bouncing around a bit now. He's good in the dot.

KK trade when?

trading Nikishin seems like a bad Idea but I trust tulsky. We need an RD.

 

[CandyCanes]

Oof. Grateful we got Tulsky and not these crazy ass GMs handing out these insane contracts

 

[Brock Anton]

The Blackhawks know they got Byram and not Dahlin, right?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Or if they want to win 2 or 3 cups in a row right now.

Maybe? I don't think Werenski would be the difference between multiple Cups or just the one we just won. Our D wasn't exactly our weak point. Now, if we acquired a forward or goalie of Werenski's caliber with Nikishin, then that might change things

 

[Derailed75]

Then move up poor Ehlers lol dude is too good to be stuck on the 3rd line

Where he set his single season high in points

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Oof. Grateful we got Tulsky and not these crazy ass GMs handing out these insane contracts

No way that's right. We're not talking Quinn Hughes, are we?

 

[Borsig]

Oof. Grateful we got Tulsky and not these crazy ass GMs handing out these insane contracts

12.5 for Byram? Holy shit lol.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Think about it this way. With the cap going up, in 4 years $12.5M a year will only be......$12.5M a year!

 

[Buenos Necas]

I know we've all been bracing for some sticker shock as the cap keeps going up...but still.

And seeing how the Nemec/Byram deals and contracts are shaping up, man the 1st/2nd/Morrow for Key at $7.5m keeps looking better and better.

 

[CandyCanes]

Big price for Binnington

 

[User13452]

Big price for Binnington

Fake account lol

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

I know we've all been bracing for some sticker shock as the cap keeps going up...but still.

And seeing how the Nemec/Byram deals and contracts are shaping up, man the 1st/2nd/Morrow for Key at $7.5m keeps looking better and better.

Makes us look so much smarter for locking everyone up long term at flatish cap rates over the years.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

There's a lot of smoke out there about Helle

 

[WreckingCrew]

Where he set his single season high in points

In the playoffs and late season yes, most of the regular season he was bounced around the top 2 lines

 

[User13452]

There's a lot of smoke out there about Helle

As there should be he is part of the elite of elite for goalies in the league. Would give the canes a Helle/Bussi tandem for the next 3 years at least

 

[User13452]

Like this. Very good in Chicago and can probably be the 7th d next year

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Like this. Very good in Chicago and can probably be the 7th d next year

That’s probably it for Mike Reilly, not that we didn’t know that already.