Friedman: Dylan Larkin requests trade

[Cancuks]

Does he want out because he doesn't think the Wings can win a Cup anytime soon? If that's the case then he's not going to want to go to LA or some of these other teams being floated around on here.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

This is the barrier to getting a haul.

Larkin’s barrier to moving is a trade that Stevie thinks is worth it.

 

[GigaChad]

I'd like to see someone compile a list of individual stats from the past 5 years that shows which players truly have contributed negatively during the Wings spring playoff hunt collapses.
Corsi, giveaways, points, +- etc.
Posting this here because it'd be interesting to see if Larkin has himself been one of the biggest reason stat wise why the team always falls flat in spring.

 

[biturbo19]

Feels like the only real question about where he ends up is exactly how he ends up in Minnesota. Subsequent to that...how does Steven Y manage to flip whatever he can get from the Wild, for any kind of even halfway credible replacement?



To me, it kind of hints at "come on down, Elias Pettersson". In some sort of roundabout pseudo three-way deal.

ie. Larkin to MIN for some combination of multiple amongst Yurov, Stramel, 2027 1st, 2028 1st, and anything else they can manage to find left in the cupboards that i'm forgetting about. Maybe even Wallstedt or Gustavsson even though DET don't need them.


Then DET flip a bunch of that package and mix in some of their own guys like Danielson/Kasper, or Bear, MBN, or some of the young defencemen/prospects...plus a cap dump like Compher or something, to VAN for Elias Pettersson.


I think the pieces might be there to make it work...but it'd be one heck of a messy daisy-chained sort of deal, on a pretty massive scale.

 

[Albatros]

Players that negotiates a NMC should have to give that up if they all of a sudden wants to move. They put their team in a sh***y situation and should get penalised somehow

If he refuses to fulfill his contractual obligations with the Wings he will be penalised. Wanting out is ultimately just an opinion.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

Minnesota (not sure for what), Anaheim and LA all make sense as West fits

Mactavish and Zelly, Byfield as center pieces

Holland and Todd Mac would know both pieces in that hypothetical deal well

Anaheim fans gotta stop including Zelly. Sure he’s expendable by Anaheim but that doesn’t mean he’s valuable by Detroit.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

what does that say about the wisdom of making that guy the cornerstone of the franchise?

he’s a whiny quitter and it won’t matter if he goes to division rival, yet for Yzerman’s entire tenure he’s pinned the team’s hopes to him as 1C?

This serious? Crosby was a whiny dipshit early in his career. He got better Wings probably hoped Larkin grew up too

 

[Bounces R Way]

Minnesota would be a very good fit for him but kinda seems they're a bit cleaned out asset wise. This is a player Seattle should be aggressively looking at. Badly need a top line capable player.

Detroit entered their rebuild with Dylan Larkin as their only center worth a damn, pretty incredible all these years later that's still the case.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

I hope this clown can never be in a Michigan bar without getting booed out

Mentally the weakest captain we’ve had

Go play golf in Vegas in the offseason

 

[Pavels Dog]

I'd like to see someone compile a list of individual stats from the past 5 years that shows which players truly have contributed negatively during the Wings spring playoff hunt collapses.
Corsi, giveaways, points, +- etc.
Posting this here because it'd be interesting to see if Larkin has himself been one of the biggest reason stat wise why the team always falls flat in spring.

Larkin through March-April last 3 seasons:

23-24: 15 points in 14 games, +8 (good numbers but missed some time)
24-25: 17 points in 23 games, -10 (less even strength production than Kasper)
25-26: 13 points in 14 games, -6 (missed time and had very poor even strength production)

I personally don't think the collapses are on him, but it's certainly been a problem that he's often been banged up at that point in the season and unable to be at his best.

 

[JoVel]

Players that negotiates a NMC should have to give that up if they all of a sudden wants to move. They put their team in a sh***y situation and should get penalised somehow

No one is forcing that team to give out an NMC. They're always allowed to give out the higher cap hit that comes by not including it.

 

[KingsFan7824]

30 before another game, 5 years left, and a full NTC. A 2C on a real team. Whoever gets him will likely get the better end of the deal, because it shouldn't take that much to get him. 30 year olds just aren't that valuable. At best, the get a flawed 25 year old version of him in return, with some lower end 1st rd pick.

 

[BB88]

Almost 0% chance he stays in the Atlantic...my guess is Minny, Anaheim or LA

What on earth is LA going to give him?

& I’m sure Larkin would be happy to end in La with zero chance at the Cup. Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota from Central. Vegas, San Jose, Anaheim, Edmonton from their own division

Again just going to a team fighting for a WC finish

 

[Pavels Dog]

30 before another game, 5 years left, and a full NTC. A 2C on a real team. Whoever gets him will likely get the better end of the deal, because it shouldn't take that much to get him. 30 year olds just aren't that valuable.

You are mistakingly thinking the age is more relevant than the player's ability and contract status. Every single team with a need for a top 6 center interested in competing in the next 5 years is going to be in on this.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

If this is true, then the Red Wings management should have fired Yzerman right after hearing that

 

[Kimota]

Fans of all other 31 teams: LFG!!!!

 

[SirKillalot]

I'd like to see someone compile a list of individual stats from the past 5 years that shows which players truly have contributed negatively during the Wings spring playoff hunt collapses.
Corsi, giveaways, points, +- etc.
Posting this here because it'd be interesting to see if Larkin has himself been one of the biggest reason stat wise why the team always falls flat in spring.

Larkin through March-April last 3 seasons:

23-24: 15 points in 14 games, +8 (good numbers but missed some time)
24-25: 17 points in 23 games, -10 (less even strength production than Kasper)
25-26: 13 points in 14 games, -6 (missed time and had very poor even strength production)

I personally don't think the collapses are on him, but it's certainly been a problem that he's often been banged up at that point in the season and unable to be at his best.

Yeah, the collapses are not on Larkin alone, but as the captain and top six center he has not been on par either and not elevated anyone else.

Feels like the only real question about where he ends up is exactly how he ends up in Minnesota. Subsequent to that...how does Steven Y manage to flip whatever he can get from the Wild, for any kind of even halfway credible replacement?

Why would he go to Minnesota though? They are not close to winning either.

ie. Larkin to MIN for some combination of multiple amongst Yurov, Stramel, 2027 1st, 2028 1st, and anything else they can manage to find left in the cupboards that i'm forgetting about. Maybe even Wallstedt or Gustavsson even though DET don't need them.

At least.

 

[Kimota]

If the Ducks could move McTavich for Larkin, it would be quite an upgrade for them. What a jump for their team as a whole.

 

[Shark Finn]

How does Helle fit Detroit’s window if they’re trading away Larkin? Think people, please!

Please consider the site we are on. You are asking for way too much.

 

[TBF1972]

Such a Wild

you can trade q.hughs for him as the three hughes brothers anyway want to play together in detroit.

 

[TBF1972]

yes, in NY

werenski doesn't make sense in ny. they have schaefer already.

 

[rsteen]

I know it doesn't solve the Sharks' problem on defense, but if they overload their top line with Celebrini and Misa (plus Eklund or Smith) and have a second line centered by Larkin, they're making the playoffs starting next year.

What are they going to do in the playoffs with a top pairing of *checks notes* Orlov and Dickinson? The Sharks don't need to trade valuable futures for a 30 year old forward. Call back if Seider or Edvinsson want out.

 

[TBF1972]

@Coffee wake up you're in a post about a trade!

i am not sure @Coffee will pass the physical

 

[biturbo19]

Why would he go to Minnesota though? They are not close to winning either.

At least.

The Wild are absolutely closer to winning than the Wings are. Not sure if you noticed, but Detroit didn't even crack the playoffs in a weak East and a toss-up division. Minnesota made it through to the Semis over a strong Dallas team viewed as very much a "contender"...then dropped a key cog with their only real Top-6C going down to injury.

If J-EKKY doesn't get axed from finishing out the season, it's a far more competitive series. Similar to Makar being iffy and what that did to neuter the Avs. Plus, the injury to JEE does nothing but reinforce the importance of filling out that other Top-6C slot. If they can do that without major subtractions, there's absolutely no reason they wouldn't be amongst the favourites next year.

Larkin also has connections with a whole bunch of USNTDP products and Team USA players. Minnesota as an organization are crawling with that stuff top to bottom. It's not a big jump to just scoot over to another American team relatively nearby. He'd also be slotting in with a bunch of other very talented linemates around him.


But yes...you're right, the price would start at least in that range. Basically emptying Minnesota's cupboards of futures most likely. The issue is...if Larkin really wants to play hardball, he can...and at that point, the team is over a barrel and have to take what they can get. Same way Quinton Hughes wanting out forced the Canucks in a very underwhelming "quantity for quality" package...by limiting options.


Really...where else is Larkin going to go that is outside Canada, more competitive than a team that very realistically could've been in the WCF with better injury luck, and just happens to have an actual Top-6C replacement to trade back and immediately plunk in to fill his spot? Wings are going to have to do some wheeling and dealing to make it work...somehow. Really awkward situation, and it really sucks when a key player decides they want out.

 

[Albatros]

30 before another game, 5 years left, and a full NTC. A 2C on a real team. Whoever gets him will likely get the better end of the deal, because it shouldn't take that much to get him. 30 year olds just aren't that valuable. At best, the get a flawed 25 year old version of him in return, with some lower end 1st rd pick.

The full NTC is gone in two years, shouldn't affect his value too much.