Friedman: Dylan Larkin requests trade, Part II

[SI90]

Or neither.

Both. Half the season on each

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Celebrating the only team with reasonable ammunition trading it for a winger is a choice, but it is your choice I guess. Yurov for Larkin incoming and I can’t wait to hear how it’s all part of the Yzerplan.

It's almost like you could see this coming!

 

[JediOrderPizza]

I mean 2 likely late 1st and a late 2nd + top 10 pick is an easy offer, especially with 2 of those picks being a couple years away.

Also takes a buyer away from Detroit, prob the team that had the potential to create a good package

Also Brady is 4 years younger, I think Larkin returns significantly less

Doesn't Larkin being a center and having 5 more years left at 8.7m even that out though?

Significantly less is crazy to me.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Both. Half the season on each

Real good for the team that gets him the first half. Real bad for the team that gets him the second half.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Doesn't Larkin being a center and having 5 more years left at 8.7m even that out though?

Significantly less is crazy to me.

In a vacuum Larkin should absolutely have more value. Problem is one of the 3 teams on his trade list just got removed. And it happens to be the one most willing to go all in to win now.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

In a vacuum Larkin should absolutely have more value. Problem is one of the 3 teams on his trade list just got removed. And it happens to be the one most willing to go all in to win now.

This is only a problem if you really think Yzerman must trade him and is bound to that list...

He doesn't, and if Larkin wants to be traded, he isn't. (And according to reports, it's already expanded)

 

[Leo2Cutter]

Doesn't Larkin being a center and having 5 more years left at 8.7m even that out though?

Significantly less is crazy to me.

Depends, Larkin is also closer to taking steps backwards.

 

[redwings25]

I could still see Detroit keeping Larkin and pulling the c. He signed for a long time. He would show up and play hard and cry himself to sleep everynight

 

[JediOrderPizza]

In a vacuum Larkin should absolutely have more value. Problem is one of the 3 teams on his trade list just got removed. And it happens to be the one most willing to go all in to win now.

He has to expand, giving a three team list when two can't even acquire you is just a one team list to Minny. Who has spare parts.

 

[The Duck Knight]

This is only a problem if you really think Yzerman must trade him and is bound to that list...

He doesn't, and if Larkin wants to be traded, he isn't. (And according to reports, it's already expanded)

He's going to trade him. You don't want a guy dragging the entire team down because he clearly doesn't want to be there.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

He's going to trade him. You don't want a guy dragging the entire team down because he clearly doesn't want to be there.

I'm sure he's going to trade him.

... When Dylan gets realistic about it. (And again, he's reportedly already moving in that direction)

 

[The Duck Knight]

He has to expand, giving a three team list when two can't even acquire you is just a one team list to Minny. Who has spare parts.

He doesn't HAVE to do anything as we all just learned with Brady.

 

[Grinner]

I could still see Detroit keeping Larkin and pulling the c. He signed for a long time. He would show up and play hard and cry himself to sleep everynight

Or he pulls a Q.Hughes.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

He doesn't HAVE to do anything as we all just learned with Brady.

I don't see Yzerman doing that.

 

[Dotter]

This Brady trade just increased Larkin's trade value/return.

 

[TommyDangles]

Right. When they're five months away from UFA, not five years.

Does he want to be traded or doesn't he? If he doesn't want to be more reasonable with that list, he must not want out too bad.

It doesn't matter the term. Larkin will only want a few teams. This is how the USA guys are gonna operate.

Gonna be an underwhelming return for Wings fans.

 

[Dotter]

He doesn't HAVE to do anything as we all just learned with Brady.

Larkin has 5 years remaining and his rights are owned by the Detroit Red Wings. Larkin has the right to not open his trade list, Yzerman has the right not to trade him at all to anyone.

That's basically how contracts work.

Brady had like 2 years left and didn't even request a trade. He's also a winger. Different situations.

 

[eojsmada]

Ok....so Minnesota is out. Florida is out.

 

[Yatzhee]

Ok....so Minnesota is out. Florida is out.

Vegas Baby!

 

[The Duck Knight]

Larkin has 5 years remaining and his rights are owned by the Detroit Red Wings. Larkin has the right to not open his trade list, Yzerman has the right not to trade him at all to anyone.

That's basically how contracts work.

Brady had like 2 years left and didn't even request a trade. He's also a winger. Different situations.

The situations are different but they aren't. Regardless of the semantics of it letting it linger and affect the locker room is not good for a team. You think Larkin is going to give it 100% if he has to put the Detroit jersey on again? You think the rest of the team want to go to battle with a guy who doesn't want to go to battle with them?

 

[Dotter]

This is how the USA guys are gonna operate.

If any GM in the league is going to set a precedent on how to deal with contractually obligated players, it will be Yzerman.

Every respectable reporter has basically said as much many times over...

Haven't you been following this? It's been widely reported.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

The situations are different but they aren't. Regardless of the semantics of it letting it linger and affect the locker room is not good for a team. You think Larkin is going to give it 100% if he has to put the Detroit jersey on again? You think the rest of the team want to go to battle with a guy who doesn't want to go to battle with them?

I think what they are implying is - Larkin wants only X team. He will sit and will not part of the Red Wings. There is no "clock" like there is for Tkachuk, or Hughes, or whomever. This is not an expiring contract where the Wings have till July to move him or he walks for nothing. There is no player leverage here other than to refuse to play, which to your point, I don't think they would want him around the locker room. Larkin is in a very different situation leverage-wise vs. the scenarios we've seen to date.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

He's not going to Florida. Minnesota will be the team he ends up on.

 

[TommyDangles]

I think what they are implying is - Larkin wants only X team. He will sit and will not part of the Red Wings. There is no "clock" like there is for Tkachuk, or Hughes, or whomever. This is not an expiring contract where the Wings have till July to move him or he walks for nothing. There is no player leverage here other than to refuse to play, which to your point, I don't think they would want him around the locker room. Larkin is in a very different situation leverage-wise vs. the scenarios we've seen to date.

Tkachuk wasn't a FA until 28/29. They didn't have to trade him now.

People always say "he will sit" but it just doesn't happen.

Organizations don't want that distraction looming over them the entire season.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

It doesn't matter the term. Larkin will only want a few teams. This is how the USA guys are gonna operate.

Gonna be an underwhelming return for Wings fans.

It actually does. And as I apparently need to note for like the third time now, he and his agent have already been receptive to opening the list.

This isn't difficult to understand. You asked for a trade. I'm trying to trade you. The teams you want either don't want you or can't provide an adequate return to make it worth trading you. So do you want to open your list? Or do you want to keep playing here for awhile longer?