Player Discussion Dylan Holloway Part 2 | Coming Off of an Injury and Turning Pro in '21-22

[Oilhawks]

He has a name but who reads his stuff? It's paywall stuff. I observe people talking about his stuff every so often, here and there, some of the talkers are paid professionals working for the Edmonton Journal. From which we are rewarded with cascades of hockey insight that's turdalicious.

I'm going to go out on a bit of a limb assuming people ranting with indignation over subject matter they themselves have little knowledge, regarding an article they never actually read, are more entertaining than this Pronman could ever dream to be.

Don’t see the need to police posters on ‘ranting’ about ‘media personnel’, it’s something fans just do. If we worried so much about such things half of the content to post about would be gone as debating others views is a big part of why a place like this exists

Also, I’m no pro scout but I know enough about how to evaluate fundamental skills to comment on them. Or at least, as much as pretty much anyone here

 

[belair]

Pronman has the Leafs ahead of the Oilers in terms of prospect systems and has Sandin, Amirov and Robertson ranked ahead all of Edmonton's prospects.

His ratings should be taken with a pound of salt.

 

[AM]

i agree with you and i think the key to the season will be scoring first. teams play different when the oilers are up and once they open up their D because they are losing the oilers have to capitalize and bury them.

optimistically speaking im thinking 80-2 maybe 79-2-1

I think the key is scoring the game winning goal

 

[Weitz]

Disliked the pick at the time but have come around big time. Think this kid has a big year for the oilers this year.

 

[Tyrolean]

We'll just have to see how he turns out in the NHL.

 

[bobbythebrain]

How does he fit? By being our #1 c once mcdavid's contract expires? I guess that would fit well.

I big 2way forward w/ skill and possession.

Have you watched the Oilers the last 4 years?

Thankfully Holland watches the team and thinks the Oil need more than transition players.

I think you can youtube some old games

 

[McDoused]

I wanted Jarvis but when he wasn't available Holloway was my guy.

So glad we didn't end up picking Guhle (who Bob Stauffer wouldn't shut up about).

I would have been happy with Mercer or Reichel as well.

 

[Mr Positive]

Pronman has the Leafs ahead of the Oilers in terms of prospect systems and has Sandin, Amirov and Robertson ranked ahead all of Edmonton's prospects.

His ratings should be taken with a pound of salt.

I'm tempted to dismiss him, but at the same time I am aware that we are biased to like our prospects. It just seems so obvious that Bouchard, Holloway are a tier above what the Leafs have. I guess we will have to see on the ice.

 

[Oilhawks]

Pronman has the Sabres as number 1, so keep that in mind. Sure, some great prospects but seems like a lot of fantasyland hoping and praying for a team that’s a historical tire fire

It’s hard to look at these things without keeping in mind the development these players are going to have, and the insulation they’ll have on their NHL team when they graduate, which makes the assessment of a “pipeline” more complicated and nebulous. A bunch of the top guys in the “bottom 20” pipelines could end up being better players than the Sabres top guys

 

[Mr Positive]

Pronman has the Sabres as number 1, so keep that in mind. Sure, some great prospects but seems like a lot of fantasyland hoping and praying for a team that’s a historical tire fire

It’s hard to look at these things without keeping in mind the development these players are going to have, and the insulation they’ll have on their NHL team when they graduate, which makes the assessment of a “pipeline” more complicated and nebulous. A bunch of the top guys in the “bottom 20” pipelines could end up being better players than the Sabres top guys

You'd think these writers would write their articles in way that they seemed smart. As in, someone could bring up their article 3 years from now and it predicted the future. That would make you want to read their stuff later.

You want to bet on Bouchard and Holloway. They will be on the ice with great players, and the puck will be going the right way. Look how much criticism Dahlin is starting to get. At some point it could start eroding the base skill. Compare that to what Sergachev turned into and how quickly he did, when he got to develop in Tampa.

 

[Samus44]

I'm tempted to dismiss him, but at the same time I am aware that we are biased to like our prospects. It just seems so obvious that Bouchard, Holloway are a tier above what the Leafs have. I guess we will have to see on the ice.

Looking at his talent assessments made me question it's value. I don't believe he knows all that much about the Oilers. No one person can accurately rate the years draft and the prospect pipelines of all the teams. It's hard for one person to do even one, that's why teams have regional scouts. He's clearly not focusing nor seeing enough of the players he's purporting to be an expert on.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Pronman has the Sabres as number 1, so keep that in mind. Sure, some great prospects but seems like a lot of fantasyland hoping and praying for a team that’s a historical tire fire

It’s hard to look at these things without keeping in mind the development these players are going to have, and the insulation they’ll have on their NHL team when they graduate, which makes the assessment of a “pipeline” more complicated and nebulous. A bunch of the top guys in the “bottom 20” pipelines could end up being better players than the Sabres top guys

I have to say that some of the Sabres prospects are overhyped... especially Cozens. I don't see anything significant about him. His hockey sense seems.... meh

 

[bobbythebrain]

I have to say that some of the Sabres prospects are overhyped... especially Cozens. I don't see anything significant about him. His hockey sense seems.... meh

Personally, I have Det at the top of the list. Seider, Raymond, Berggren and Veleno . Scary stuff

 

[ujju2]

Personally, I have Det at the top of the list. Seider, Raymond, Berggren and Veleno . Scary stuff

Cossa too

 

[McDoused]

Personally, I have Det at the top of the list. Seider, Raymond, Berggren and Veleno . Scary stuff

Look at their current roster and all of sudden not so scary.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Look at their current roster and all of sudden not so scary.

Hronek, Larkin, Vrana, Bertuzzi, Zadina....and a steal of a goàlie.

Not bad whatsoever.

Young team growing together is always scary. They'll be legit in 2

 

[Bank Shot]

Hronek, Larkin, Vrana, Bertuzzi, Zadina....and a steal of a goàlie.

Not bad whatsoever.

Young team growing together is always scary. They'll be legit in 2

2 decades.

 

[bobbythebrain]

2 decades.

I know you were kiddin but w/ a future dman projecting to be the next Hedman....I'd be happy. This guy covers up alot of ice. Add in Hronek and it's a very scary dcore in the making

 

[walktheboulavard]

I know you were kiddin but w/ a future dman projecting to be the next Hedman....I'd be happy. This guy covers up alot of ice. Add in Hronek and it's a very scary dcore in the making

This is a Dylan Holloway thread my guy, why are we watching highlights of a prospect from another team hitting players.

Upload highlights of Holloway putting players through the boards, there's tons of that. Anyways we got a excellent prospect for the selection, we don't need him to have the skills of McDavid, Drai or even Nuge. If he can finish plays created by our skilled centers and lay people out like he's accustomed to, he'll be worth more than his weight in gold in oil country.

 

[McJadeddog]

Holloway could apparently need another surgery on his wrist and could miss months, not weeks, to start the season. He injured his wrist/thumb 4-5 months ago. If it STILL isn't healed and might need another surgery, well, that isn't good at all.

Random Thoughts: The Boys Are Back in Town

 

[Oilhawks]

Holloway could apparently need another surgery on his wrist and could miss months, not weeks, to start the season. He injured his wrist/thumb 4-5 months ago. If it STILL isn't healed and might need another surgery, well, that isn't good at all.

Random Thoughts: The Boys Are Back in Town

Pretty sure his surgery was on his thumb. So could be something else

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I sure hope that he gets back to 100% soon. It must be really tough for him right now not being 100% (potentially) for his first pro camp.

 

[GMofOilers]

Leavins mentions Matheson, and Samurkov but not Holloway?

Forecasting how opening night may look for the Edmonton Oilers and their fans: 9 Things | Edmonton Journal

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Leavins mentions Matheson, and Samurkov but not Holloway?

Forecasting how opening night may look for the Edmonton Oilers and their fans: 9 Things | Edmonton Journal

It would more shocking if Mathson actually was ready

 

[McJadeddog]

Pretty sure his surgery was on his thumb. So could be something else

Yeah that was my memory as well, but the comments around it now seem to indicate its the same original injury, so I don't know.