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Don’t forget Bolduc. They also have 1st rounder Stenberg getting close and a couple European players I’m really high on in Pekarcik and Stancl.
Dylan Holloway 55 points in the last 53 games
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Don’t forget Bolduc. They also have 1st rounder Stenberg getting close and a couple European players I’m really high on in Pekarcik and Stancl.
BleedBlue14
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Growth opportunity. Also a little more relaxed of an environment. Blues had expectations of being a passable team, not a Stanley Cup winner.
Another thing is him and Kyrou's chemistry is incredible. They've really clicked.
Monty has obviously helped as well as he's helped everyone.
It's tough to play on a team that is grinding for everything. Every tiny little detail is treated like a big deal. While I get it, many young players need to be allowed some leeway and aceept that they will make mistakes.
Voight
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Bowman may have been the one to decline to match but Jeff Jackson had plenty of time to sign Holloway and chose instead to sign Skinner and Arvidsson.
& given hes Bowmans boss, surely was OK with not matching the two offer sheets.
KeithIsActuallyBad
Fire Dustin Schwartz
They both can take a long walk off a short pier and take Katz with them.
In their infinite wisdom, the Oilers hired three straight GMs who were single-handedly responsible for dismantling their previous teams. All for the sake of the Hockey Canada OBC.
Had to laugh at the rumours that Katz was blowing up their phones during the TDL because he was displeased. You absolute loser, you hired these bozos. You're a terrible owner and you'll never see a championship in your lifetime.
Voight
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Thats actually hilarious. Like you said, he hired these guys. & as the owner of the team he can literally force them to do his bidding.
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BleedBlue14
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I think it's moreso the delivery, and consequences of the details not being met.
Monty seems extremely meticulous on the details of the games. Ice time isn't really allocated by production, but moreso playing the right way.
That being said, learning moments on teams that aren't expecting to win it all this year are alot more acceptable and delivered differently than on a team that's really pushing. Mistakes for the Blues this season result in a conversation. Results for the Oilers likely result in a change in lines/benching. Details are always going to be extremely important at the NHL level. It's moreso how do you go about moving on from the mistakes.
I think culture has alot to do with it too and plays into that. I'm not sure what the Oiler's culture is like within the room. But the Blues' seems to be fantastic this year and I think alot of that has to do with this is a group of 22-27 year olds who are building and making their own mark, with alot of veteran's that are there to be leaned on and questioned. I don't know if culture or environment is the best way to put it. We're relying on our youth, but leaning on the vets. Not relying on our youth and leaning on the youth as well.
McShogun99
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A player like Holloway would look great in the Oilers top six. Exactly the type of player you need to win in the playoffs. Maybe one day they can trade for him or draft a similar type of player.
KeithIsActuallyBad
Fire Dustin Schwartz
Katz has always been about two things: Friends and money. McDavid is his meal ticket. He got away with halfassing hires before McDavid but now his decisions have really come home to roost.
Mr Nogatco
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Uncle Scrooge
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Holloway putting up more points than Arvidsson and Skinner combined is hilarious to me.
Thats what you get for hiring Stan Bowman.
Thats what you get for hiring Stan Bowman.
The most hilarious part is how many people blame Bowman for Arvidsson and Skinner..... It shows that one does not need to know anything to criticize....
Uncle Scrooge
Hockey Bettor
Oh I don't care about that, was talking in general. Karma and all that.
josra33
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Edmonton could be 3rd in Pacific and still have less points than both wild card teams coming from the Central. Wild.
Beauterham
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It's easy to mock EDM's FO in regards to the OS for Broberg, and especially, Holloway, but does anyone else out there wonder why their GM's didn't think of OS'ing, also? I sure know my team(MN) could've used Holloway, as could the Hawks. They had to know about him because of his time in Madison, though you would think that all teams would know about a first round pick. In retropect, seems like a no brainer.
I would think that from now on, GM's reluctance to embarrass or poach from one of their colleagues would have to be balanced by the potential gain.
I would think that from now on, GM's reluctance to embarrass or poach from one of their colleagues would have to be balanced by the potential gain.
rumrokh
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I'm sure they do think of offersheeting, but most of them have their own problems to think about - or might simply get turned down. Maybe there are managers, executives, or agents who have offered insight, but I don't know of any public information that gives a good idea of how many teams submit offersheets that simply go unsigned.
Also, in the case of Minnesota, they had already traded away the pick they would have needed to sign Holloway to the same deal. In retrospect, almost every team would sign him to a bigger deal, but you can sink yourself quickly by dealing 2nd and 1st rounders away AND signing players to deals they don't deserve - and are also under your control for fewer seasons. Can seriously impact your ability to negotiate with the players you already have.
ExJbeck
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Only two other teams (Calgary and Columbus) attempted to sign broberg and or holloway. Heard that in an interview somewhere today.
josra33
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You do realize the other half of an offer sheet is that the players have to want to sign and play for your team right? This isn’t NHL 25.
GoldenSeal
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I remember an interview (forget who it was, but it was a former player) saying that offer sheets happen pretty regularly, but you only hear about them when the player actually signs. If the offer sheet is submitted but the player never signs, then it's basically treated as if it never happened/is never talked about.
