Dylan Holloway - 43gp 15g 17a +11

[Tryblot]

Watching Edmonton in the playoffs last year and it was obvious Holloway was going to break out. He was often one of the more noticeable players while some of their big players (rnh, draisaitl) were complete ghosts.

I said right from the start that Holloway is the prize and I'm not at all surprised that he has upped his production. Edmonton made a big mistake here just losing Holloway alone.

 

[Satan]

He looks really good, tough loss for the Oilers.

 

[The Panther]

Watching Edmonton in the playoffs last year and it was obvious Holloway was going to break out. He was often one of the more noticeable players while some of their big players (rnh, draisaitl) were complete ghosts.

I liked Holloway's hustle in the playoffs last year, but your post makes it sound like he was a total stud -- he wasn't. He scored 5 goals in 25 games, with limited ice time, but hardly amazing results.

Meanwhile, Draisaitl -- the "complete ghost" -- scored 8 goals in the first 9 playoff games. (Then he got injured.)

I said right from the start that Holloway is the prize and I'm not at all surprised that he has upped his production. Edmonton made a big mistake here just losing Holloway alone.

I'm not sure what "the prize" means.

It's no surprise that Holloway is doing well now that he has serious minutes and plays a big role. Glad to see him finding his way.

On the other hand, Holloway is pacing for 60 scoring points --- not 160, as some here make it sound --- and St. Louis is pacing to miss the playoffs. Meanwhile, Edmonton has been the best team in the NHL since Nov. 9th and is doing just as well as last season when they had Holloway.

 

[Zerotonine]

It's funny to see Holloway do this when there were a group of Oiler fans laughing at him saying he'd never produce like this because he was giving up a chance to play with McDavid or Draisaitl.

No oiler fan said this. Every oiler fan was pretty upset about losing Holloway probably more so the Broberg to be honest. Now im no way did any oiler fans think he would produce like this so soon. Nit we all new he had top 6 potential. And we all nee he was being misused in edmonton as well

But keep talking out your ass

 

[bleedblue1223]

No oiler fan said this. Every oiler fan was pretty upset about losing Holloway probably more so the Broberg to be honest. Now im no way did any oiler fans think he would produce like this so soon. Nit we all new he had top 6 potential. And we all nee he was being misused in edmonton as well

But keep talking out your ass

People absolutely said it, as they wondered why he signed the offer sheet in the first place, that he would come to regret it. About how his agent was strong armed into it because there was initial reluctance.

 

[Stealth JD]

From the Athletic:

Since Montgomery came to town, no player on the Blues has added more value than Holloway’s plus-6.3 Net Rating, a plus-24 pace. That’s elite-forward good, a mark generally only matched by the league’s very best. With 24 points in 22 games, Holloway has scored at a 90-point pace and has had the substance to match. He leads the team with a 63 percent expected-goals rate, six percentage points higher than the next-best Blues player, Pavel Buchnevich.

 

[Zerotonine]

People absolutely said it, as they wondered why he signed the offer sheet in the first place, that he would come to regret it. About how his agent was strong armed into it because there was initial reluctance.

He would come to regret it due to the fact the Oilers are litterally stamley cup contenders and the blues are the opposite. Pretty simple..

 

[LGB]

2 assists so far tonight.



This is a full on breakout. Legit top line player and right now his line with Kyrou and Schenn looks unstoppable.

 

[Brookbank]

And this is simply why most offer sheets are matched. Oilers management had 2 cracks at it and made the wrong decision twice

Not much is said about how the Blues GM will be an oucast now , for doing these offer sheets

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Dylan Holloway (34) has more points than Viktor Arvidsson (15) and Jeff Skinner (15) combined for around $4.75M less.

 

[Bigtrout]

Loilers

Good on the Blues for ripping them off

 

[HighNote]

He would come to regret it due to the fact the Oilers are litterally stamley cup contenders and the blues are the opposite. Pretty simple..

The guy is 23 and a core piece on a young, up and coming team, which has a competent front office, and that will be contending sooner rather than later. I'm sure he's ecstatic.

It's not as if the Blues are a lottery team, or even trending down. They're not far off from a playoff spot. They have a very bright future considering the young pieces they already have on the roster, as well as an exciting crop of prospects that will be breaking into the lineup over the next 1-4 years.

 

[rumrokh]

Not much is said about how the Blues GM will be an oucast now , for doing these offer sheets

Not much is said because that's not a thing.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

They should have matched him IMO, but they are also heading up to a possible presidents trophy without him. Meanwhile, who knows how many years Holloway will be improving his golf game.

 

[Mike Liut]

He’s a stud. He’ll be a perennial 25-30g scorer.

 

[Paralyzer]

Replaceable players? You're kidding, right? How many Blues games have you watched this year? Not matching Holloway is the type of move that can solidly slam a competitive window.

Remind me how that worked out for the Oilers when they offer sheeted Dustin Penner. How many playoff wins did they get with him?

 

[Fantomas]

They should have matched him IMO, but they are also heading up to a possible presidents trophy without him. Meanwhile, who knows how many years Holloway will be improving his golf game.

Can you butter your bread with that presidents trophy?

 

[5 14 6 1]

Said from the start we should have matched him and let Broberg walk. Happy for the kid. He's getting opportunity he wouldn't get here, which is what he wanted.

 

[SirloinUB]

Oilers absolutely botched the Holloway/Broberg situations every step of the way.

Broberg I could somewhat understand but it is crazy the oilers let Holloway walk. I didnt like it at the time and it looks even worse now.

Just a mismanaged situation.

 

[SirloinUB]

I liked Holloway's hustle in the playoffs last year, but your post makes it sound like he was a total stud -- he wasn't. He scored 5 goals in 25 games, with limited ice time, but hardly amazing results.

That's a 16 goal/82 game pace. Only 4 oilers forwards are currently on pace to match that. And we all know scoring is typically lower in playoffs than regular season so in some ways that’s like a 20 goal pace.

There were very clear signs of a breakout looming.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Always kind of thought he'd be a bigger loss than Broberg and wanted him badly his draft year. He's big, he's fast, he shoots, he's a handful on the boards, drives the net and is physical off the puck. Was really good both games against the Flames in STL.

 

[Oilslick941611]

People absolutely said it, as they wondered why he signed the offer sheet in the first place, that he would come to regret it. About how his agent was strong armed into it because there was initial reluctance.

youre mixing it up. I dont think any expected Holloway not to do well in St Louis by virtue of him getting more opportunity to play in all situations,

We collectively thought he made a mistake if wanted to win a cup. Chances are he gets more after a cup win, but regardless, no one is mad that holloway and broberg took the money, anyone would.

Broberg looks like he cant handle a full 82 game schedule, which was one of the worries of matching at 4.6 mil.

 

[bleedblue1223]

youre mixing it up. I dont think any expected Holloway not to do well in St Louis by virtue of him getting more opportunity to play in all situations,

We collectively thought he made a mistake if wanted to win a cup. Chances are he gets more after a cup win, but regardless, no one is mad that holloway and broberg took the money, anyone would.

Broberg looks like he cant handle a full 82 game schedule, which was one of the worries of matching at 4.6 mil.

I don't want to rehash this stuff, it would take a lot of time trying to find the exact posts, but there were more than a few that said Holloway was making a mistake because he'd be passing up a chance with McDavid or Draisaitl and wouldn't be able to produce to a similar level with lesser talent in St. Louis.

Yes, part of it was just cope of a fan in the moment potentially losing and eventually losing young 1st round picks. I absolutely remember people talking about how he was fake being happy in interviews because people still thought his motivation was to sign the offer-sheet and then have it be matched and the whole thing was Broberg's agent using Holloway's agent.

 

[Oilslick941611]

I don't want to rehash this stuff, it would take a lot of time trying to find the exact posts, but there were more than a few that said Holloway was making a mistake because he'd be passing up a chance with McDavid or Draisaitl and wouldn't be able to produce to a similar level with lesser talent in St. Louis.

Yes, part of it was just cope of a fan in the moment potentially losing and eventually losing young 1st round picks. I absolutely remember people talking about how he was fake being happy in interviews because people still thought his motivation was to sign the offer-sheet and then have it be matched and the whole thing was Broberg's agent using Holloway's agent.

I’m sorry. But I don’t buy the cope argument. This two players are gone and the team is better than it was last year. We don’t miss them at all.

 

[rumrokh]

I’m sorry. But I don’t buy the cope argument. This two players are gone and the team is better than it was last year. We don’t miss them at all.

You do realize the poster you're quoting is talking about reactions when the players were signed, not now, right? The Oilers' current record obviously doesn't intersect with that at all. It can be true that plenty of fans talked bullshit to cope (as fans always do, c'mon now) AND that the Oilers made the right moves.

But, be honest, no matter how good the Oilers have been, you know people who criticized how the Oilers managed the situations weren't really talking about their regular season performance through 40-something games. It's weird to frame it that way.