Value of: Dylan Cozens to the Flames

MakeCgyGreatAgain · 2024-10-23T13:04:42-0400

Unbiased Fan said:
Cozens and Byram for Kadri and Weegar

There’s no way this is a serious offer. Weegs isn’t going anywhere. That heavily favours Buffalo. Completely ridiculous from the Flames standpoint.

Lunatik · 2024-10-23T13:09:15-0400

Mattilaus said:
If we are trading Cozens then Kadri can't be the main asset we get back. That contract is too ick.

Kadri's contract is no more "ick" than Cozens at this point in time.

Dubi Doo · 2024-10-23T13:15:37-0400

Cozens may need to be switched to wing before traded. The value probably isn't there.

Unbiased Fan · 2024-10-23T13:35:02-0400

MakeCgyGreatAgain said:
There’s no way this is a serious offer. Weegs isn’t going anywhere. That heavily favours Buffalo. Completely ridiculous from the Flames standpoint.

Debatably the worst team on paper in NHL history does not need a dman in the middle of their prime. Cozens and Byram fit their timeline a lot better.

Chainshot · 2024-10-23T13:41:46-0400

DJJones said:
Trading Andersson for anyone right now seems crazy to me.

Guys too good. I think they have to wait for the summer and offer a huge contract.

That seems like the best plan as an outsider. And if contract negotiations go poorly, he is likely to garner an excellent return since he is a right hand shot 1D.

DJN21 · 2024-10-23T13:43:52-0400

icelander25 said:
Would a Brock Nelson ++ for Cozens interest and Buff fans?

not even a tiny bit

DJJones · 2024-10-23T13:44:15-0400

Chainshot said:
That seems like the best plan as an outsider. And if contract negotiations go poorly, he is likely to garner an excellent return since he is a right hand shot 1D.

Yep, retain half and thats probably the best contract in the league.

I hope he resigns though

Gabrielor · 2024-10-23T13:59:08-0400

Don't see a deal right now. You'd want him for 25 cents on the dollar, and the 13 year drought Sabres literally can't afford that kind of beating in a trade again.

Volica · 2024-10-23T14:01:55-0400

According to some of the Flames fans-with-ties Calgary has been sniffing around Krebs which makes a lot more sense given the contract status of Cozens. What would a Krebs deal look like from a Buffalo POV?

Gabrielor · 2024-10-23T14:03:52-0400

Volica said:
According to some of the Flames fans-with-ties Calgary has been sniffing around Krebs which makes a lot more sense given the contract status of Cozens. What would a Krebs deal look like from a Buffalo POV?

Ask again in 25-30 games. It's tough to tell how much Lindy likes him / if he's in on merit (I think he is), or because of injuries.

Deep Blue Metallic · 2024-10-23T14:18:53-0400

Some Other Flame said:
Something around Andersson for Cozens might have made some sense before the Sabres traded Mittelstadt. Now as it stands, they don't have the center depth to be able to trade Cozens

This is accurate.

I've felt for a long time that Cozens belongs at wing, not C. With Mitts gone, the Sabres can't realistically make that move. Ditto for trading him.

Brett44 · 2024-10-23T15:18:38-0400

Djp said:
If Buffalo is trading Cozens your best C prospect would come back along with Anderssen and something else.

Buffalo will not take back Kadri in any deal

Cozens in a slump now…yes

you know your goal should be to win not to be the youngest team. i'm not a fan of buffalo and calgary but i like buffalo now it's time to make a playoff.

Double Dion · 2024-10-23T16:31:32-0400

I don't have interest in Cozens personally. I've never viewed him as a center and the more I see of him the more convinced I become. I also see Krebs as a very interesting player. He's already a very strong defensive C and perhaps more opportunity could unlock him offensively to where he could become a middle 6 C.

Buffalo made a bet with that contract to Cozens. It wasn't a bad bet, it just hasn't really worked out. I have no interest in the same bet with more information now. It could still turn, I don't think he's as bad as the offensive totals and his defensive work would indicate, but at the same time I don't think he's a top end 2C like he's being paid to be.

Question for Sabres fans. Do you value Ostlund or Rosen higher? I like Ostlund defensively and Rosen as an entry guy. I'd be interested in either player if they are available.

Jimmybarndoor2 · 2024-10-23T16:38:11-0400

The Sabres have made their bed for this year and Cozens and Krebs are in that bed

And there is hope that the roster is trending in the right direction. It’s too early to abandon the plan so early

Maybe talk later at trade deadline depending on how things are going

Meichel Kane · 2024-10-23T16:46:58-0400

When has Buffalo trading away an underperforming young center ever backfired

blackjackmulligan · 2024-10-23T16:48:15-0400

Unbiased Fan said:
Debatably the worst team on paper in NHL history does not need a dman in the middle of their prime. Cozens and Byram fit their timeline a lot better.

what is the Sabre's timeline?

Beerz · 2024-10-23T16:58:06-0400

Volica said:
According to some of the Flames fans-with-ties Calgary has been sniffing around Krebs which makes a lot more sense given the contract status of Cozens. What would a Krebs deal look like from a Buffalo POV?

Half a bag of pucks.

Beerz · 2024-10-23T17:02:51-0400

Double Dion said:
I don't have interest in Cozens personally. I've never viewed him as a center and the more I see of him the more convinced I become. I also see Krebs as a very interesting player. He's already a very strong defensive C and perhaps more opportunity could unlock him offensively to where he could become a middle 6 C.

Buffalo made a bet with that contract to Cozens. It wasn't a bad bet, it just hasn't really worked out. I have no interest in the same bet with more information now. It could still turn, I don't think he's as bad as the offensive totals and his defensive work would indicate, but at the same time I don't think he's a top end 2C like he's being paid to be.

Question for Sabres fans. Do you value Ostlund or Rosen higher? I like Ostlund defensively and Rosen as an entry guy. I'd be interested in either player if they are available.

I value Ostlund higher based on being a Center and I think has higher upside.

Rosen is probably safer bet at the moment based on the stage of his development right now. Rosen has great speed and I'm pretty certain he will carve out a nice career as a top 9 forward in NHL

HaNotsri · 2024-10-23T17:11:48-0400

blackjackmulligan said:
what is the Sabre's timeline?

Probably a GM change and a couple of seasons away.

No interest in Kadri since there's like a 5% chance we make the playoffs this season. Organization recently bought out Skinner to save money as well, would hate to trade Peterka or Quinn because of adding Kadri.

I want to keep Cozens and add a center to get back our center depth.

Jimmybarndoor2 · 2024-10-23T17:17:35-0400

blackjackmulligan said:
what is the Sabre's timeline?

Depends on what fan you talk to
Varies from we need to do something this week to let’s wait to see what happens this season

It’s too early to talk about how this season will go

DJN21 · 2024-10-23T17:23:24-0400

We can't trade Cozens because we are short at center after the Mitts trade.

Cozens isn't a center long term (clearly).

Lots to unpack there....

jk just seems like weird double standards here. Btw I have no interest in moving him anywhere but wing. He will be fine.

Uberpecker · 2024-10-23T18:04:00-0400

Meichel Kane said:
When has Buffalo trading away an underperforming young center ever backfired

I count only three cups between those in the last six years.

Bounces R Way · 2024-10-23T18:09:40-0400

Don't have a ton of interest in Cozens personally. Doesn't have the IQ or consistency to be a reliable top6 C long term in my view. Not exactly cheap either, both in AAV and in likely acquisition cost.

Krebs for a middling pick or something would be my preference. No need to take such a big swing so soon for Conroy.

Uberpecker · 2024-10-23T18:11:33-0400

Volica said:
According to some of the Flames fans-with-ties Calgary has been sniffing around Krebs which makes a lot more sense given the contract status of Cozens. What would a Krebs deal look like from a Buffalo POV?

While certainly not untouchable, trading Krebs doesn't make much sense for Buffalo at this point, either.
He's been a decent, good at the dot bottom six center with some jam and secondary scoring to the point where some Sabres fans want him to get a look on the second line.
The question is what would you trade for him that could make the Sabres better right now.

Double Dion · 2024-10-23T18:45:57-0400

Beerz said:
I value Ostlund higher based on being a Center and I think has higher upside.

Rosen is probably safer bet at the moment based on the stage of his development right now. Rosen has great speed and I'm pretty certain he will carve out a nice career as a top 9 forward in NHL

Interesting. Rosen seems to be a guy who will provide good secondary offense and be able to be a zone entry guy. What would you think fair value is?

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