Proposal: Ducks - Leafs

[Boo Boo]

Ducks- Lindholm 50% retained

Leafs - 2nd 2022, 4th 2023

Rielly- Brodie
Muzzin- Lindholm
Sandin- Holl

Lindholm - 21 points , 52 hits , 75 blocks , 42 pim , 19:28 avg toi

this is really the deal you think will get it done?

 

[cup67]

Savard got a first a year ago. Lindholm is much much better than Savard

This year a lot of dman going to be traded
Lindholm, Chiarot, Klingberg, Giordano, Manson, Subban, Ristolainen, and another 10
How many 1sts out there ?
Oh a lot of good forwards , probably getting 1sts

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Never going to get a 1st , supply is high , demand is low

How much do you want to wager on that? Lindholm will be the #1 Dman on the market he's easily getting a 1st round pick or Pat Verbeek doesn't move him it's that simple.

 

[cup67]

As a Leaf fan... that is an abysmal offer.

It probably doesn't even get you Manson @ 50% retained (although I think that would be close)... nevermind Lindholm.

So Lindholm gets a 1st and all other dman get what ? What about the forwards in play ? It’s deep this year

 

[darkwingduck]

As a ducks fan, if all that’s offered is a low 2nd, I’m keeping lindholm and using the extra months to work on resigning him.

 

[cyris]

This year a lot of dman going to be traded
Lindholm, Chiarot, Klingberg, Giordano, Manson, Subban, Ristolainen, and another 10
How many 1sts out there ?
Oh a lot of good forwards , probably getting 1sts

No one said they are all getting firsts. Lindholm is the best all around Dman available. If he gets traded he gets a first. He is better than every other guy you mentioned.

 

[cup67]

Get lost troll

Hey it’s just a proposal. Relax
A lot of good dman out there this year and forwards . Supply and demand
Leafs probably do that for Klingberg or Giordano

 

[RebuildinVan]

So Lindholm gets a 1st and all other dman get what ? What about the forwards in play ? It’s deep this year

Who says they are all going to be moved? Ducks arent going to accept a crap offer

 

[cup67]

Probably looking at a 1st + Knies.

Never going to happen, to many dman out there to choose from for a rental no .

 

[cup67]

Who says they are all going to be moved? Ducks arent going to accept a crap offer

Better get something, then nothing
They can still sign him , if they really wanted him they would of signed him already .

 

[RebuildinVan]

Better get something, then nothing
They can still sign him , if they really wanted him they would of signed him already .

The Leafs GM call the Ducks with that offer.....Ducks GM calls every other GM to see if they can beat that. All say yes

 

[seanlinden]

So Lindholm gets a 1st and all other dman get what ? What about the forwards in play ? It’s deep this year

- Lindholm, Klingberg & Chychrun, if traded, will get 1sts; or the prospect-equivalent of one, plus another asset. The fact that it's a deep pool of rentals isn't going to "reduce the single-piece quality" -- it's just going to mean that you're not talking multiple high end pieces.

- Giordano MIGHT get that kind of value, if Lindholm/Klingberg/Chychrun aren't traded (or maybe only one of them) as he becomes the "next best". After that, you've got Manson & Chiarot, who in a normal year might flirt with a 1st round pick type of valuation, but probably not this year.

- Everyone else will fall into line after that.

While yes, the "market" for rentals is dictated by supply & demand, and an oversupply will generally reduce price, teams are still going to be willing to pay for star talent, which Lindholm absolutely is.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

If Chiarot gets a 1st round pick, Then Hampus Lindholm 100% gets a 1st round pick as well.

 

[cup67]

As a ducks fan, if all that’s offered is a low 2nd, I’m keeping lindholm and using the extra months to work on resigning him.

Only 4 teams contenders that have 1st round picks

 

[cup67]

- Lindholm, Klingberg & Chychrun, if traded, will get 1sts; or the prospect-equivalent of one, plus another asset. The fact that it's a deep pool of rentals isn't going to "reduce the single-piece quality" -- it's just going to mean that you're not talking multiple high end pieces.

- Giordano MIGHT get that kind of value, if Lindholm/Klingberg/Chychrun aren't traded (or maybe only one of them) as he becomes the "next best". After that, you've got Manson & Chiarot, who in a normal year might flirt with a 1st round pick type of valuation, but probably not this year.

- Everyone else will fall into line after that.

While yes, the "market" for rentals is dictated by supply & demand, and an oversupply will generally reduce price, teams are still going to be willing to pay for star talent, which Lindholm absolutely is.

only 4 teams that have 1sts that are too playoff teams . So who do you think will give up a 1st +

 

[Cogburn]

Only 4 teams contenders that have 1st round picks

Who said a contender is the only option?

 

[cup67]

If Chiarot gets a 1st round pick, Then Hampus Lindholm 100% gets a 1st round pick as well.

Chiarot will not get a 1st , the proposal was to see what others thought he was worth .

 

[BleedBlue14]

This year a lot of dman going to be traded
Lindholm, Chiarot, Klingberg, Giordano, Manson, Subban, Ristolainen, and another 10
How many 1sts out there ?
Oh a lot of good forwards , probably getting 1sts

Lindholm and Chychrun are probably the only all situations top pairing d men available.

If any rental is getting a first in return, it’ll be Lindholm.

 

[cup67]

Who said a contender is the only option?

Who else will trade a 1st for a rental ?

 

[Moridin]

I'm as hardcore and biased as a Leafs fan as they come.. but well..

my first thought after reading was "oh, so what would the leafs offer for Lindholm at 50%? & and a few picks?"

Sandin for Lindholm at 50% is probably far more realistic.

 

[bsu]

What a joke.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Who else will trade a 1st for a rental ?

Supposedly lindholm is willing to talk extension with team trading for him… so the being able to extend him/ give him 8th year opens up lots of options

Seems like you are under rating lindholm, he’ll be best dmen available at deadline if he is available

 

[HabsQC]

OP was probably thinking about Par Lindholm

 

[DingDongCharlie]

If Holland is a buyer I raise the Tor offer to Edm 2022 1st + B prospect (Tullio, Lavoie, or Safin) + Kassian + 4th 2023 for 50% retained.

If Lindholm would agree to an extension I'd be ok with the prospect even being Samorukov and the pick upgrading to a 2nd in 2024.

So a signed Lindholm, 2022 1st + 2024 2nd + Samorukov + Kassian.

 

[Diamonddog01]

Classic Leafs fans proposal.

 

[doomscroll]

Hey it’s just a proposal. Relax
A lot of good dman out there this year and forwards . Supply and demand
Leafs probably do that for Klingberg or Giordano

>Post bad proposal

>Double-down repeatedly with the same response

>it’s just a proposal. Relax

I hate the fact I enjoy these kinds of threads

 

[Holymakinaw]

Ducks- Lindholm 50% retained

Leafs - 2nd 2022, 4th 2023

Rielly- Brodie
Muzzin- Lindholm
Sandin- Holl

Lindholm - 21 points , 52 hits , 75 blocks , 42 pim , 19:28 avg toi

God, your proposals are always garbage. Don't you ever notice that? Any self awareness at all? Jesus.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I think if Lindholm is traded, he'll get 1st + good prospect, i.e. a lot more than the proposed offer. In terms of what TOR could offer, that could be 1st + Knies (Niemela, Robertson also to be considered) maybe an additional late pick for the retention required.

And I think that's definitely a trade TOR should do if offered to them. That makes them immediately much better for this offseason.