Speculation: Ducks grabbing a top 6 forward for Fowler/despres

[SupremeTeam16]

Over half the teams in the league don't have the cap space to take on Fowlers contract without sending cap back. So you have to hope there is a team out there who has cap space and the need to trade for a player who is 2 years from UFA and needs to be protected in expansion and that team has to have a top 6 two way player on a ELC or very cheap deal who likely won't have to be protected, and they have to be willing to trade this player.

I would say it's unlikely BM will be able to find a deal.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Vatanen for Zuccarello.

I'd suggest Fowler but he plays LD.

Just what Anaheim is seeking a 5'7 Zuccarello, Pretty sure they want a big body not small body.

 

[dracom]

Over half the teams in the league don't have the cap space to take on Fowlers contract without sending cap back. So you have to hope there is a team out there who has cap space and the need to trade for a player who is 2 years from UFA and needs to be protected in expansion and that team has to have a top 6 two way player on a ELC or very cheap deal who likely won't have to be protected, and they have to be willing to trade this player.

I would say it's unlikely BM will be able to find a deal.

Tatar+forward prospect for Fowler is the only deal that works for everyone (despite what other Ducks fans think of Tatar, he is a top 6 player winger).

I still have my money on that deal happening once Lindholm and Rakell are re-signed.

 

[Drew4u]

Vatanen for Zuccarello.

I'd suggest Fowler but he plays LD.

I think both teams would decline. Defencemen Are more valuable than wingers, but the Rangers would lose their best offensive player.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

That looks like a hockey deal

Yeah a 5'7 Forward that's going to get hit hard in Anaheim's system. Can't see how's that a hockey deal.

 

[belair]

What about Skinner for Fowler?

 

[dracom]

What about Skinner for Fowler?

I don't think Carolina needs more defensemen. They're pretty set aren't they?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

What about Skinner for Fowler?

Why? Would Carolina want another D-man they already have one of the better young D cores in the league. Besides Skinner makes almost $2 million more then Fowler Anaheim can't afford that without sending more cap to Carolina.

 

[Avs44]

What about Skinner for Fowler?

Carolina needs forward talent, and Skinner is among their best. They have Faulk, Hanifin, Slavin, Pesce on their defense, with Fleury, Bean, McKeown, etc. coming up. They are stacked on defense for the future. You're thinking of only one team here.

 

[yvrtojfk]

Just what Anaheim is seeking a 5'7 Zuccarello, Pretty sure they want a big body not small body.

Swap for Chris Kreider. Rangers would probably rather hold onto him (feel free to chime in) but you give to get. Unless you're Jim Benning.

 

[wintersej]

Tatar+forward prospect for Fowler is the only deal that works for everyone (despite what other Ducks fans think of Tatar, he is a top 6 player winger).

I still have my money on that deal happening once Lindholm and Rakell are re-signed.

But Tatar only make a million less than Fowler and needs a new deal next year. How does that solve anything?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Swap for Chris Kreider. Rangers would probably rather hold onto him (feel free to chime in) but you give to get. Unless you're Jim Benning.

Kreider most likely fits their system better then Zuccarello, But still Kreider makes way more then Fowler here so i still doubt BM would do it.

 

[belair]

Carolina needs forward talent, and Skinner is among their best. They have Faulk, Hanifin, Slavin, Pesce on their defense, with Fleury, Bean, McKeown, etc. coming up. They are stacked on defense for the future. You're thinking of only one team here.

Fowler is developed though. He's a top 4 PP option today. They also cut salary for the next couple years.

I remember earlier in the year there were whispers of Skinner being shopped. His production dipped and there were the concussion worries.

Both guys are the same age, not a bad swap IMO.

 

[wintersej]

Fowler is developed though. He's a top 4 PP option today. They also cut salary for the next couple years.

I remember earlier in the year there where whispers of Skinner being shopped. His production dipped and there where the concussion worries.

Both guys are the same age, not a bad swap IMO.

Except Anaheim is the team that needs to save $$$, not Carolina.

 

[dracom]

But Tatar only make a million less than Fowler and needs a new deal next year. How does that solve anything?

Because it solves are winger issue right now, while also giving us a forward prospect we need right now. Tatar can be protected, while if we keep Fowler, then Manson most likely gets taken. Personally, I think I rather protect Tatar and Manson than lose Fowler and not add any much needed forwards.

As for Tatar deal ending next season, he'll be a RFA, and we have some contracts coming off the book next season, so I don't imagine it'd be that hard to re-sign him.

Frankly, this is the deal I go back to because the RW fans seem to be only the ones on here that don't completely attack Fowler as a player and call him a terrible player.

 

[Claypool]

But Tatar only make a million less than Fowler and needs a new deal next year. How does that solve anything?

The chances of Anaheim getting a top 6 forward on a super sweet, long-term deal is near impossible. Tatar is making $2.7 million next season, will pot over 20 goals (or more), and will be a RFA after next season, not a UFA. He's an asset that can either be resigned or moved somewhere else then.

 

[belair]

Except Anaheim is the team that needs to save $$$, not Carolina.

Technically they both do.

 

[dracom]

Fowler is developed though. He's a top 4 PP option today. They also cut salary for the next couple years.

I remember earlier in the year there where whispers of Skinner being shopped. His production dipped and there where the concussion worries.

Both guys are the same age, not a bad swap IMO.

Personally, I rather not have to have another player to worry about his career ending with another hit to the head. Already have Despres for that.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Fowler is developed though. He's a top 4 PP option today. They also cut salary for the next couple years.

I remember earlier in the year there where whispers of Skinner being shopped. His production dipped and there where the concussion worries.

Both guys are the same age, not a bad swap IMO.

Still bad for a budget team like Anaheim, Unless Ron Francis wants to eat at least $2 million of Skinner's salary it wont work budget wise for Anaheim and there's still the concussion worries there.

 

[wintersej]

Ryan Spooner has one year left at 925k, but he isn't two way. 49 points in 15 minutes a game. Shouldn't be a problem being a mid-50 point guy or higher with actual top 6 minutes. He would be getting a big raise after this season, so not sure it works with Anaheim's long term cap.

Danton Heinen is an interesting case for an NHL ready two-way guy who should be able to play top 6 minutes. Lots of talk of him playing with Marchand and Bergeron this year. http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20160713/defense-keyed-danton-heinens-offensive-turnaround

 

[Unholy]

A deal with Detroit should have been done long ago. Fanbases have been in agreement on a lot of proposals.

 

[CupofOil]

Fowler or Despres would be a glorified salary dump at this point. Is a team going to trade a prized forward prospect for one of those guys especially with the expansion draft in mind? I honestly don't know what Anaheim can do at this point without hurting their roster by trading one of those guys.

Maybe they get lucky and Lindholm and Rackell decide to take paycuts on bridge contracts. Otherwise, I'm not sure how Murray will be able to get good value for Fowler or Despres and be able to sign both Lindholm and Rackell. The clock is ticking.

 

[belair]

Still bad for a budget team like Anaheim, Unless Ron Francis wants to eat at least $2 million of Skinner's salary it wont work budget wise for Anaheim and there's still the concussion worries there.

Does anyone really know what the internal cap is for Anaheim?

If the concussion worries are that much of a deal-breaker, obviously that's that. But Skinner is a pretty decent risk. He's a very talented winger.

 

[dracom]

Fowler or Despres would be a glorified salary dump at this point. Is a team going to trade a prized forward prospect for one of those guys especially with the expansion draft in mind? I honestly don't know what Anaheim can do at this point without hurting their roster by trading one of those guys.

Maybe they get lucky and Lindholm and Rackell decide to take paycuts on bridge contracts. Otherwise, I'm not sure how Murray will be able to get good value for Fowler or Despres and be able to sign both Lindholm and Rackell.

Fowler will never be a cap dump. #2, 24 year old defensemen are not cap dumps, not matter the situation.

Despres is another story at this point.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Does anyone really know what the internal cap is for Anaheim?

If the concussion worries are that much of a deal-breaker, obviously that's that. But Skinner is a pretty decent risk. He's a very talented winger.

Their budget last year i believe was around $65 million, Maybe slightly more this year really don't know what they've set it at yet being ownership and all. I myself think that Skinner would be worth the risk but then i'm a big Jeff Skinner fan myself.