navyduck
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I just want a coach that actually knows how to teach a good power play regimen. For the love of God, this team hasn't had that in a decade at least.
Confirmed with Link: Ducks fire Greg Cronin
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70sSanO
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Regardless of the interview process and being open to any type of coach, I think Verbeek has his short list of who he wants.
I think he also doesn’t want to go through a coaching learning process. Verbeek is done screwing around and wants someone who will get results.
I would be shocked if we don’t have a HC in place before the draft.
John
I think he also doesn’t want to go through a coaching learning process. Verbeek is done screwing around and wants someone who will get results.
I would be shocked if we don’t have a HC in place before the draft.
John
Rooch
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You're splitting hairs. He stood up in front of the Orange Alliance and said what you wrote—plus that he wanted the team to compete for a playoff spot this season. None of the above happened.
Maybe he should learn that it isn't about calling your shot, it's about taking it.
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9 years. Had both the top PP and PK in 2015-16.
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The Midnight Burrito
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70sSanO
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Taking a shot on who? Stamkos? Marchessault? They were horrible with the Preds. I can’t imagine they would be any better on the Ducks.
Rantanen? I guarantee you we could have traded for him and lost him even faster than Carolina.
Last year no FA wanted to play for the Ducks, especially with Cronin as HC.
The team needs the right HC and be competitive for top players to come here. You can’t force someone to sign.
It may not happen this Summer no matter what Verbeek’s tries to do. But if the young core really hits next year, and we have a coach players want to play for, then we can get them.
John
CrazyDuck4u
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You bring in a well respected coach. And the FA will come here. Everybody knows the ducks are loaded with talent and I expect the bar to raised next year. PV has to sell that.. it's his job
TheDarkWingThatDucks
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I thought he said he wanted the team playing meaningful games in March this year ?
And it is splitting hairs…. But saying I want to add, and I’m going to be active and aggressive to improve the team, does sound different to me.
Hockey Duckie
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Verbeek said that he started to look intently as to why the team started to fall off the playoff run with meaningful games. That is probably when advanced metrics entered the picture and explained to Verbeek to where it made a lot of sense why things were falling out. The PP and PK has been abysmal since Verbeek's first full season, which is a three-year sample. And because the special teams sucked for all three years, then it becomes easier to assess EV play.
Just before the 4 nations break, Anaheim went 6-1-0 (12 points) and put them at 24-24-6 (54 pts), nine points behind the last wild card spot in the West. From the 4 Nations break to the TDL, the Ducks went 3-3-1 (7 points) and seven points behind the last wild card spot. For the rest of March, the team went 5-6-1 (11 points) and 16 points behind the last wild card spot.
Verbeek thought of grandeur things when we hit a hot streak in those seven games before the 4 Nations break. Five of those teams were .500 or below teams, which we usually dominate. The other two team were beaten because our goalies only allowed one goal in each event. Then the larger sample came in after the 4 Nations break to point out what many of us already pointed out which was we were the "best of the worst" and the determinant for that were our goalies.
The weird part about Verbeek is he says he monitors things monthly, but things came ahead when the team started falling out of the race after the TDL. My thinking is Verbeek fell in love with the points increase and didn't care about advanced metrics until he saw the team faltering after the TDL. Afterwards, the advance metrics kept showing the same pattern and that seven game stretch prior to the 4 Nations break was a lucky stretch. I'm grateful to whichever person, persons, or dept that kept showing Verbeek the advanced metrics, including GSAx by our goalies.
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Also, "had bitch the top PP and PK" in 2021-22 prior to the TDL, aka the Verbeekening.
You do know there's 31 other teams who get to talk to free agents we target right? I'm getting so tired of this notion that all a GM has to do is put on a convincing pitch and throw money and they can just get the FA they want.
A ufa can consider any of the following in deciding not to sign here, in no particular order:
1. Who the coach is
2. Small market v big market
3. Distance from family
4. Team legacy
5. Cup contender vs. Playoff competitor vs. Rebuilder
6. Personal preference on where to live
7. Expected role.
8. Cost of living/ tax implications
9. Term of contract/clauses/actual salary
10. Players a free agent would or wouldn't want to be teammates with
11. For a player with children or who might soon have them, quality of education
Etc. Most of these things, a GM can't control.
Sendhelp2Anaheim
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I actually have no idea who I’d like as our next coach.
I like carle, but I don’t think he’s realistic option nor do I think that’s the direction pv will go.
I’m hoping PV doesn’t go the torts route, we tried a hard ass coach didn’t really work well. I still like someone like Bruce(or similar stylistically)…. Someone that will get best out of the players…. The goal needs to be getting to the playoffs and getting that expierence on the players.
Like others have mentioned getting a solid coach might help with free agency too; still have a couple holes in line up
I like carle, but I don’t think he’s realistic option nor do I think that’s the direction pv will go.
I’m hoping PV doesn’t go the torts route, we tried a hard ass coach didn’t really work well. I still like someone like Bruce(or similar stylistically)…. Someone that will get best out of the players…. The goal needs to be getting to the playoffs and getting that expierence on the players.
Like others have mentioned getting a solid coach might help with free agency too; still have a couple holes in line up
Cro was an intellectual giant, guys. Must watch.
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Guys a clown wow Unbelievable we had him for 2 years
Big Fat Rebound
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Greg: "I would ask them "Who are you, as a player?""
Also Greg: Completely misuses practically every valuable core player on the roster for two seasons
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So you’re telling me our Gm decided not to risk his own career as our gm, by back!ng Cronin any further? I mean this is shocking (eye roll) to many of you were just petrified with fear and weren’t seeing this obvious situation with verbeeks eyes as a first time gm… verbeek as a rebuilding Gm gets a pass for hiring a rookie nhl coach(even though cro is old as dirt) he however,doesn’t get that same pass for continuing to back him(if he did he would then be on the hook with cro) he made the obvious decision for his own sake… also was always laughable the ( Samuelis wont allow us to pay 2 salaries narrative )
The Midnight Burrito
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Cronin: What's your value system as a player?
Player: says whatever
Cronin: WRONG! You're a grinder, dipshit!
Cro: what do you value?
Player: I don’t know
Cro: awesome answer!
Player: I don’t know
Cro: awesome answer!
2faded
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Cronin: Give me an honest answer, what kind of player are you?
Z: Center, I hate playing wing
Cronin:
Z: Center, I hate playing wing
Cronin:
Also had to reregister my account so I could post how thankful I am on this Easter Sunday that the Ducks have likely been saved from having their rebuild extend out into the 2030s. Glad Verbeek was smart enough to see through the 21 point improvement from last season and realize it was in spite of, not because of, Cronin.
CrazyDuck4u
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Happy Easter!! With Cronin gone. The Ducks have risen
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I honestly don’t understand why people are giving Cronin props for “work ethic”. I think the team on average gave less than 1 period of high energy/high impact play, with the majority of most games being “lethargic at best”. The late game, second half of the 3rd period “play like an NHL team that gives a shit and has some talent” that we were regularly treated to is the exact opposite of a strong work ethic. As is the “start the game strong then forget how to play after 1-2 periods”.
I don’t care if you blame the coaches, players, or the whole lot, but this has not been a hard working, honest effort, well motivated team this year.
I don’t care if you blame the coaches, players, or the whole lot, but this has not been a hard working, honest effort, well motivated team this year.
Smirnov2Chistov
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I do find it a little odd that Verbeek would say it’s something along the lines of a ‘private’ matter.
Just speculating here.. Was the locker room that dysfunctional that players went over Cronin to go to Verbeek about things? The way he words his interview made it seem like this came out of the blue.
Just speculating here.. Was the locker room that dysfunctional that players went over Cronin to go to Verbeek about things? The way he words his interview made it seem like this came out of the blue.
Dr Johnny Fever
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Because you always have to say something nice about the guy, when you fire him for reasons other than bad behavior. Sometimes you have to reach.
