Speculation: Ducks are the only team without a single UFA signing (Still need to hit Cap Floor)

[WhatTheDuck]

Well, do you win some of these fights?

Didn't think so...

Sometimes it's just about showing up

 

[Bottle Rocket]

There are so many ways to corrupt the last two posts above with wife jokes

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Our GM forgot that you can't actually find quality NHL players to sign at Temu and Wish.com.

 

[Rec T]

Then maybe we should sign his wife...

It's this kind of outside the box thinking that makes HF such a ... special? ... resource.

 

[Hobnobs]

Ducks should sign Pavelski. You get a good vet for the locker room and pissing offf sharks fan. Win win

 

[TFHockey]

Not necessarily hating this due to the ridiculous money being thrown around, but odd to see only one team with no signing.

Who will be their first foray into this year's market?

I can think of a perfect $9.25 Million dollar Edmonton Oiler contract that will keep the Ducks over the cap floor for the next several years. Don't wait! Offer ends soon.

 

[Fist of Fury]

Anders "King Clancy winner" Lee, he would be perfect for the Ducks. He could tap in Zegrases failed Michigan's.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Ducks are the team to make deals with, I suppose.

 

[Qward]

Just sign Suter then buy him out. You will be set for a couple years

 

[My3Sons]

I’m sure they’d love teams to send along picks and prospects for bad contracts but generally you see one or two of those sorts of deals a season and they aren’t tremendous returns. Maybe they get a low first from a team and a couple of smaller deals to add an extra couple of thirds or something? Teams buy draft picks with retention so the prices are out there.

 

[jani]

Dunno if this has been brought up yet, but Seravalli on the Ducks' situation yesterday:

"Let me tell you this, a lot of people have been all over the Anaheim Ducks, because they were talking about getting a top 6 forward and a top 4 defenseman. They were in on all the big fish, they offered more term and more money on all of them: Stamkos, Marchessault, all these players. They offered more than that, than what they signed for. And they were turned down."



22:15-22:40

 

[Craig Ludwig]

Montreal basically signed no one (Barre-Boulet doesn't count if you ask me), but I think most Habs fans are happy they didn't overpay for anyone. Stay the course.

 

[12ozPapa]

Dunno if this has been brought up yet, but Seravalli on the Ducks' situation yesterday:

"Let me tell you this, a lot of people have been all over the Anaheim Ducks, because they were talking about getting a top 6 forward and a top 4 defenseman. They were in on all the big fish, they offered more term and more money on all of them: Stamkos, Marchessault, all these players. They offered more than that, than what they signed for. And they were turned down."



22:15-22:40

Yep, that was my assumption. Who would want to play in Anaheim right now?

 

[ocslug]

They were in on all the big fish, they offered more term and more money on all of them: Stamkos, Marchessault, all these players. They offered more than that, than what they signed for. And they were turned down.

Verbeek probably offered 5 x 8.5 to Stamkos, but the combination of 6 years of losing, an elderly coach who isn't exactly player friendly, and high California taxes (worse than Montréal iirc) probably make the Ducks a bottom 5 franchise when it comes to player attraction.

The Killorn contract from last offseason was probably a better model for what the team should do. SJ basically did this with Toffoli. Not that these players are similar, just that they're middle six guys who you can pry with a mid-range overpay. Verbeek might be shooting too high, too early, but I do appreciate the team trying.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I can think of a perfect $9.25 Million dollar Edmonton Oiler contract that will keep the Ducks over the cap floor for the next several years. Don't wait! Offer ends soon.

We do seem to be collecting lhd

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Yep, that was my assumption. Who would want to play in Anaheim right now?

Well than fk them lol

 

[Curufinwe]

if the Ellis contract is mostly insured, that would get them over the cap floor at a low cost in actual dollars

 

[PettersonHughes]

Might as well wait for the "future considerations" cap dump trades. Washington's going to likely need to dump cap, same with Vegas, Toronto and Edmonton (and surprisingly Nashville might after their big splurge). If their basement buddies Chicago and SJ are ready to win, it might be Easy Street to another early pick, and if they're stuck there in purgatory, might as well make the most of it and get assets from other teams to round out your roster. (If PLD pisses Washington off, maybe they'll have another $8.5 million coming their way? Then bada bing, bada boom).

 

[HanSolo]

Ducks have already been out of the playoffs for 6 years.
Looking at the state of the their roster, 10 years seems pretty probable.

Right cause this pre-McDavid draft roster was really on the fast track to success.

Let's be real. If today's Edmonton team didn't have McDavid and had a more average 1C instead with Drai, they are more than likely a playoff bubble team at best.

The Ducks haven't had a single first overall pick in their entire history, much less a generational talent as a draft pick. They're going to have to take a different approach to build around their youth core.

I may not be pleased that the Ducks didn't grab any veteran talent out of FA that will help take the load off the kids and get the team closer to the playoffs, but they weren't going to build a contender for themselves by doing what Nashville did either. At some point, Anaheim will have an excess of young talent that they'll have to leverage in trades for roster help. There's no telling how that is gonna go down as of today. So the expectation that Anaheim is going to be awful for another ten years is really sourced from nothing but baseless speculation.

 

[StreetHawk]

Verbeek probably offered 5 x 8.5 to Stamkos, but the combination of 6 years of losing, an elderly coach who isn't exactly player friendly, and high California taxes (worse than Montréal iirc) probably make the Ducks a bottom 5 franchise when it comes to player attraction.

The Killorn contract from last offseason was probably a better model for what the team should do. SJ basically did this with Toffoli. Not that these players are similar, just that they're middle six guys who you can pry with a mid-range overpay. Verbeek might be shooting too high, too early, but I do appreciate the team trying.

They could go that Killorn route again. But, better to actually get better term than 4 years with MacTavish and Lacombe due up for new deals in 2025 while the rest of the kids Gauthier, Carlsson, Zell, Mint are due up in 2026. No clue yet whether they'd try to go term or bridge. Most right now, bridge, but never know.

I wouldn't think they are in need of more draft capital. During their 6 years out of PO from 2019 to 2024, they got extra firsts by taking on Backes, trading Lindholm and Henrique. Also added 2nds from Col for Manson, Pitt for Rackell, and a pair of 2nds from Bos for Lindholm. They should be well stocked now.

With MNTC in places for a lot of vets, would they waive them to do the final 1 or 2 years of their remaining contract in Ana? For those who were born and raised in the East and played only in the East, I doubt many would waive to go to Ana. Longer travel, so less time with Kids for these 30 somethings.

 

[StreetHawk]

I may not be pleased that the Ducks didn't grab any veteran talent out of FA that will help take the load off the kids and get the team closer to the playoffs, but they weren't going to build a contender for themselves by doing what Nashville did either. At some point, Anaheim will have an excess of young talent that they'll have to leverage in trades for roster help. There's no telling how that is gonna go down as of today. So the expectation that Anaheim is going to be awful for another ten years is really sourced from nothing but baseless speculation.

It might get to 10 total, not another 10. Everything is based upon how well these kids develop. So, question is what is Ana and Verbeek going to do to help them get to their full potential? Right now, don't see them making the PO in the next 2 seasons, so it should get to 8 years out of the PO for the Ducks.

 

[McDonald19]

Ducks should sign Pavelski. You get a good vet for the locker room and pissing offf sharks fan. Win win

Pretty sure Pavelski said he is going to retire. If he changes his mind it will be for a cup contender.

 

[HanSolo]

It might get to 10 total, not another 10. Everything is based upon how well these kids develop. So, question is what is Ana and Verbeek going to do to help them get to their full potential? Right now, don't see them making the PO in the next 2 seasons, so it should get to 8 years out of the PO for the Ducks.

Fair enough and if that's what @Bank Shot meant, then apologies. Certainly not what the other Oilers fan meant.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Right cause this pre-McDavid draft roster was really on the fast track to success.
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Let's be real. If today's Edmonton team didn't have McDavid and had a more average 1C instead with Drai, they are more than likely a playoff bubble team at best.

The Ducks haven't had a single first overall pick in their entire history, much less a generational talent as a draft pick. They're going to have to take a different approach to build around their youth core.

I may not be pleased that the Ducks didn't grab any veteran talent out of FA that will help take the load off the kids and get the team closer to the playoffs, but they weren't going to build a contender for themselves by doing what Nashville did either. At some point, Anaheim will have an excess of young talent that they'll have to leverage in trades for roster help. There's no telling how that is gonna go down as of today. So the expectation that Anaheim is going to be awful for another ten years is really sourced from nothing but baseless speculation.

Is the argument that a roster with Eberle, Hall, RNH, Schultz, Klefbom, Perron, Petry and Draisaitl, all of whom were 27 or under, was nothing? McDavid definitely changed the trajectory of Edmonton and he's the biggest reason they became relevant, but the takeaway from that list is that its truly mind boggling that they made the playoffs once in his first 4 seasons.

 

[cheesymc]

Pretty sure Pavelski said he is going to retire. If he changes his mind it will be for a cup contender.

Getting an offer from the Ducks would make him instantly retire.