Friedman: Ducks are now preparing to trade Lindholm after failed talks

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Nylander
Mrazek
Engvall
2nd rd 2023

for

Lindholm resigned 7x7
Gibson

For a RESIGNED Lindholm AND Gibson? Yes, I'm yelling. That's garbage.

 

[Gliff]

I wonder if ANA is not going to get a small discount to Eastern Teams. My guess is they'd like to contend sooner than later, they have a good young core and I don't think even in 3 years you want Lindholm in your division.

The Ducks need to worry about themselves. They are losing their #1 defensemen a week after losing their #3 defensemen. They are a long way from contending.

Nylander
Mrazek
Engvall
2nd rd 2023

for

Lindholm resigned 7x7
Gibson

Its a fantasy to think a move this big would happen midseason.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

The only trash is Mrazek. Actually had a ducks fan tell me he would do it

2nd is trash in a lindholm and Gibson trade, and engvall is nothing

 

[Arthuros]

Nylander
Mrazek
Engvall
2nd rd 2023

for

Lindholm resigned 7x7
Gibson

It's not like Nylander is garbage...but Mrazek is no good. There would have to be WAY more than Engvall + 2nd, especially since Gibby's (apparently) going the other way.

 

[Mugzy97]

2nd is trash in a lindholm and Gibson trade, and engvall is nothing

What if we remove everything and do Nylander for Lindholm straight across?

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I think you're undervaluing Nylander

Lindholm = 1st , 2nd Robertson
Gibson = Nylander - Mrazek

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I think you're undervaluing Nylander

Sounds like you are undervaluing lindholm and Gibson

 

[Gliff]

What if we remove everything and do Nylander for Lindholm straight across?

Deal.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

We’d see how much the leafs forward impact his offense. Leafs would be pretty stacked on the back end what would it look like
Rielly Brodie
Lindholm liljegren
Sandin muzzin?

close, flip Sandin and Muzzin. Also Lyubushkin has been decent and should be there but who does he replace?

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[BleedBlue14]

Lindholm is the exact piece the Blues need.

However, extension talks could be very tricky and we’re essentially losing a key piece or two going forward with an extension for Lindholm. It’s probably worth it though

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

What if we remove everything and do Nylander for Lindholm straight across?

That’s a pretty good 1 for 1 deal assuming lindholm agrees to extension

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Deal.

you are seeing some Leafs fans becoming cold on Willy cuz he has been floating again in his last few games

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

close, flip Sandin and Muzzin. Also Lyubushkin has been decent and should be there but who does he replace?

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That’s a tough 1 but muzzin is out for a while so maybe see how lyubushkjn looks for extended time…. Never a bad thing to have a solid 7th or 8th option come playoff time either

 

[ITM]

The trade model notwithstanding, Nylander has always been undervalued by our (Toronto's) fanbase. He's easily Kadri's equal in talent and if we ever have the misfortune to see him traded, he'll be just as prolific.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

you are seeing some Leafs fans becoming cold on Willy cuz he has been floating again in his last few games

I personally wouldn't want to trade Nylander. I'd rather pay two 1sts and Robertson or even 1st knies and a 3rd for Lindholm.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

That's gonna be a huge return

 

[bsu]

Lindholm for Nylander would make the Toronto a better team. No doubt in my mind.

 

[Eggtimer]

Boston, he's their 2nd best prospect. Definitely a tier below the other 2 mentioned though

Thank you.

 

[Duck Off]

I think you're undervaluing Nylander

Nylander is not worth Gibson and an extended Lindholm. And I’d love Nylander

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Lindholm for Nylander would make the Toronto a better team. No doubt in my mind.

It would for sure but we have the assets to get Lindholm without Nylander being moved. We can always move some combination of kerfoot, Muzzin, holl, dermott, mrazek to fit Hampus long term.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

That’s a pretty good 1 for 1 deal assuming lindholm agrees to extension

IMO Lindholm is a great piece but we are already kinda stocked on the left side.
Rielly, Muzzin, Sandin, Dermott. Our right side has Brodie, Lyb, Holl and Lilj. IMO all 8 of those guys are NHL level or better D men.
of late Lilj has been playing great and I wouldn't be too upset if Brodie and Lilj are our 2 top 4 RHD
Really if we make a move for a D man some of our current D will have to move. IMo its not fair to have any of them not on a roster.

 

[Mugzy97]

That’s a pretty good 1 for 1 deal assuming lindholm agrees to extension

So the rest of my deal was a 2nd, Engvall and Mrazek for Gibson, which I thought was decent because goalies don't hold extremely high value. The 2nd isn't nothing and Engvall has value, but Mrazek is a warm body at this point.

 

[bsu]

It would for sure but we have the assets to get Lindholm without Nylander being moved. We can always move some combination of kerfoot, Muzzin, holl, dermott, mrazek to fit Hampus long term.

I meant if Toronto traded Nylander for Lindholm straight up like someone posted up there.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

I personally wouldn't want to trade Nylander. I'd rather pay two 1sts and Robertson or even 1st knies and a 3rd for Lindholm.

personally I think we should pass on Lindholm(awesome player!!) but he plays LHD and we are covered on LHD. IMO we need a big crease clearing RHD. Manson was our guy and for the price payed I am kinda pissed we didn't beat the offer

 

[Arthuros]

So the rest of my deal was a 2nd, Engvall and Mrazek for Gibson, which I thought was decent because goalies don't hold extremely high value. The 2nd isn't nothing and Engvall has value, but Mrazek is a warm body at this point.

In no world am I buying that Mrazek + Engvall + 2nd is worth Gibson.