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Gardner McKay said:
Pretty much my feelings on this. I don't think Gorton and JD had done anything worthy of being fired. Obviously we don't know what goes on behind closed doors but when you look at our rebuild compared to many other rebuilds around the league, it is apparent we are doing something right.

I like Drury and make no mistake, he is absolutely qualified to fill the role of GM after being an AGM for the last what, 4 or 5 years? Under different circumstances I would probably be quite happy to see Drury take the reigns of this team. But not this way. Not over JG and JD who, in my opinion, are the cream of the crop in the NHL. Especially JD. That guy bled Ranger blue all the way and I think how this was handled is absolutely abhorrent.

If the Rangers somehow manage to win a cup under Drury's tenure, I'm sure I'll get over it. But the fact is, he will have won it with the foundation built by his predecessors while deserving credit for getting them past the finish line. Nothing would have made me happier than to see the Rangers win the cup with JD as President. Well, I take that back. Lundqvist getting a cup.

But in my 25+ years of watching Rangers hockey, and sports in general, I've never had something sports related rub me in such a bad way.
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Summed it up better than I could...feel the same way and likely will for a long time. I went most of my life as a Rangers fan with Sather at the helm. And while he didn’t do a bad job, I didn’t trust him at all.

I trusted JG. And JD really rounded out the front office and made it even more relatable and personal for a lot of fans who remember him as a player and broadcaster. He was so happy to be back and help this team take the next step and I was confident that he would do just that. Especially with his track record in St. Louis and Columbus.

I feel sad and almost guilty knowing I get to continue down this path with the bright future this team has without those two. Also concerned that the future they built could be at risk in the near future...
 
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broadwayblue said:
Is Dolan the only person who thought this team underachieved this season? Youngest team in the league, no cap space, in a division of death with 4 of the 9 highest odds teams to win the cup. I still don't get it.
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I do think he's in the minority by a pretty good stretch within the industry.

But, I also think he's the only who's vote actually counts. So you have to account for that.
 
Edge said:
I do think he's in the minority by a pretty good stretch within the industry.

But, I also think he's the only who's vote actually counts. So you have to account for that.
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I get that his vote is the only one. But that still doesn't mean I have to understand his thought process. I really hope he doesn't blow up everything we've been building for the last 3 years. I was legitimately excited for next season, now I'm somewhat scared about the future.
 
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This is a much more complicated situation but...

If it's ok to trade Brassard for Zibanejad, it's ok to trade Gorton/JD for Drury. Or is it just cause we also didn't get a second round pick?
 
Chris Drury could give Rangers shakeup needed for Stanley Cup run

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The hockey department can become more diversified, not so that the franchise will receive plaudits on social media, but because those from varied backgrounds add differing and valuable perspectives. Analytics will play an important role in this regime.

“I think analytics are a big piece of the puzzle,” said Drury, who will add a number of support personnel. “You need as much information as you can when you’re trying to make the best decisions you can and I think in a lot of ways analytics peels back the layers of what you are looking at."
“Sometimes it confirms the eye test and other times it proves the eye test wrong, so you are always trying to find the way to make the right decision.”

The original plan was for Drury to become GM operating in concert with a team president. But Drury thought it was important to wear both hats.

“Of course I’m going to lean on people in different departments, but at the end of the day, I wanted to have the ability to do the things that I thought were necessary,” he said. “I think having both roles, the way they are set up, I’m going to have that ability.”
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I'm still trying to understand WHY they fired Gorts and gave full control to his Padawan. It doesn't logically compute in my brain.

I think Sather was in Dolan's ear. You know he didn't like what transpired over the past few weeks... Panarin being ragdolled and then injured was the last straw... Not having any protection in a division with Washington and Fishies is poor at best, fireable at worst :sarcasm:

Did JD fall on his sword with Gorts?

Maybe Drury can fulfill what JD was talking about.... 'being harder to play against'... and I HOPE, HOPE... we get a better locker room. We've been baby shit soft as far back as I can remember... ( well since Torts ) Is there correlation there? AV and Gorton came on around the same time... from 2015 on we've been bitches... or no?
 
Accelerate the rebuild, were they not already doing that?

Not to the total extreme they could have, sure. Yet they were playing every prospect they could asap, they were signing, trading for and extending players they thought could contribute right away rather than gain or keep futures for them.

This summer if they had kept Gorton/JD they were, or were not going to try to accelerate this rebuild even more so? They started that process with the Panarin signing to begin with.

And that does make me question if Gorton and JD were on the total same page, I get that is the narrative, yet until JD came on board things were not being 80 millions of dollars in two separate contracts accelerated.
 
UnSandvich said:
Chris Drury could give Rangers shakeup needed for Stanley Cup run

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The hockey department can become more diversified, not so that the franchise will receive plaudits on social media, but because those from varied backgrounds add differing and valuable perspectives. Analytics will play an important role in this regime.

“I think analytics are a big piece of the puzzle,” said Drury, who will add a number of support personnel. “You need as much information as you can when you’re trying to make the best decisions you can and I think in a lot of ways analytics peels back the layers of what you are looking at."
“Sometimes it confirms the eye test and other times it proves the eye test wrong, so you are always trying to find the way to make the right decision.”

The original plan was for Drury to become GM operating in concert with a team president. But Drury thought it was important to wear both hats.

“Of course I’m going to lean on people in different departments, but at the end of the day, I wanted to have the ability to do the things that I thought were necessary,” he said. “I think having both roles, the way they are set up, I’m going to have that ability.”
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Does this mean that Drury witnessed how a President interfered with GM and messed up some good trades?
 
UnSandvich said:
Chris Drury could give Rangers shakeup needed for Stanley Cup run

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The hockey department can become more diversified, not so that the franchise will receive plaudits on social media, but because those from varied backgrounds add differing and valuable perspectives. Analytics will play an important role in this regime.

“I think analytics are a big piece of the puzzle,” said Drury, who will add a number of support personnel. “You need as much information as you can when you’re trying to make the best decisions you can and I think in a lot of ways analytics peels back the layers of what you are looking at."
“Sometimes it confirms the eye test and other times it proves the eye test wrong, so you are always trying to find the way to make the right decision.”

The original plan was for Drury to become GM operating in concert with a team president. But Drury thought it was important to wear both hats.

“Of course I’m going to lean on people in different departments, but at the end of the day, I wanted to have the ability to do the things that I thought were necessary,” he said. “I think having both roles, the way they are set up, I’m going to have that ability.”
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Seems well prepared for the job, lets see what he can do this summer and in the future.
 
UnSandvich said:
Chris Drury could give Rangers shakeup needed for Stanley Cup run

"
The hockey department can become more diversified, not so that the franchise will receive plaudits on social media, but because those from varied backgrounds add differing and valuable perspectives. Analytics will play an important role in this regime.

“I think analytics are a big piece of the puzzle,” said Drury, who will add a number of support personnel. “You need as much information as you can when you’re trying to make the best decisions you can and I think in a lot of ways analytics peels back the layers of what you are looking at."
“Sometimes it confirms the eye test and other times it proves the eye test wrong, so you are always trying to find the way to make the right decision.”

The original plan was for Drury to become GM operating in concert with a team president. But Drury thought it was important to wear both hats.

“Of course I’m going to lean on people in different departments, but at the end of the day, I wanted to have the ability to do the things that I thought were necessary,” he said. “I think having both roles, the way they are set up, I’m going to have that ability.”
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UnSandvich said:
Chris Drury could give Rangers shakeup needed for Stanley Cup run

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The hockey department can become more diversified, not so that the franchise will receive plaudits on social media, but because those from varied backgrounds add differing and valuable perspectives. Analytics will play an important role in this regime.

“I think analytics are a big piece of the puzzle,” said Drury, who will add a number of support personnel. “You need as much information as you can when you’re trying to make the best decisions you can and I think in a lot of ways analytics peels back the layers of what you are looking at."
“Sometimes it confirms the eye test and other times it proves the eye test wrong, so you are always trying to find the way to make the right decision.”

The original plan was for Drury to become GM operating in concert with a team president. But Drury thought it was important to wear both hats.

“Of course I’m going to lean on people in different departments, but at the end of the day, I wanted to have the ability to do the things that I thought were necessary,” he said. “I think having both roles, the way they are set up, I’m going to have that ability.”
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Larry has been very positive about Dolan. He's been around this team forever and remember them pre-Slats. I think he genuinely at the very least understands this move. Makes me feel a little better.
 
duhmetreE said:
I'm still trying to understand WHY they fired Gorts and gave full control to his Padawan. It doesn't logically compute in my brain.

I think Sather was in Dolan's ear. You know he didn't like what transpired over the past few weeks... Panarin being ragdolled and then injured was the last straw... Not having any protection in a division with Washington and Fishies is poor at best, fireable at worst :sarcasm:

Did JD fall on his sword with Gorts?

Maybe Drury can fulfill what JD was talking about.... 'being harder to play against'... and I HOPE, HOPE... we get a better locker room. We've been baby shit soft as far back as I can remember... ( well since Torts ) Is there correlation there? AV and Gorton came on around the same time... from 2015 on we've been bitches... or no?
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Part of me has to at least admire Sather’s ability to save himself with the Rangers.

He came here, got jack shit results for four years as a coach and GM and somehow parlayed it into another decade.

He did help turn things around (including a lot of his own mess) but he also made some horrendous free agent signings, signed some awful contracts we struggled to unload, and left the system just about depleted in his quest to finish the job from 2013-2016.

He then basically hand picked his successor twice - both for GM and for president. Signed off on the rebuild and yet somehow managed to remain as both his successors got canned.

And he’s once again in a more prominent position.

Love him or hate him, that is some masterful political gamesmanship.
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
Larry has been very positive about Dolan. He's been around this team forever and remember them pre-Slats. I think he genuinely at the very least understands this move. Makes me feel a little better.
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Larry is an opportunist who will just easily write a piece six months from now contradicting an earlier piece.

That’s how he survives. But making people want to kill him and read him at the same time.
 
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Edge said:
Larry is an opportunist who will just easily write a piece six months from now contradicting an earlier piece.

That’s how he survives. But making people want to kill him and read him at the same time.
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But don't you think if he were strictly an opportunist he'd take the opportunity to stoke the ire of Rangers fans and bash Dolan?
 
Edge said:
He has. He does. And he will.

If you stand in one spot long enough, eventually you see Larry bump into himself.
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But my point is in this particular case if he wanted to get the most clicks and reads he'd probably gone the route of bashing the organization and telling us how incompetent it is.
 
Edge said:
Part of me has to at least admire Sather’s ability to save himself with the Rangers.

He came here, got jack shit results for four years as a coach and GM and somehow parlayed it into another decade.

He did help turn things around (including a lot of his own mess) but he also made some horrendous free agent signings, signed some awful contracts we struggled to unload, and left the system just about depleted in his quest to finish the job from 2013-2016.

He then basically hand picked his successor twice - both for GM and for president. Signed off on the rebuild and yet somehow managed to remain as both his successors for canned.

And he’s once again in a more prominent position.

Love him or hate him, that is some masterful political gamesmanship.
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When Sather took over we had almost no good players and close to zero good prospects. He did a decent job and we had some memorable fun moments the Czech line, Fleury, Barnaby, Avery, Prust, Bure, Jagr, Lindros, etc. He had done a bad job choosing coaches until Renney and had bad luck with goalies Blackburn injury, Richter's decline and injuries, etc. His rebuild was in 2004 was a huge success as we made the playoffs after that with a 100 point season and a monster 1st line.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
But my point is in this particular case if he wanted to get the most clicks and reads he'd probably gone the route of bashing the organization and telling us how incompetent it is.
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Feel like the organization, and really Sather has always used the Post and more so Larry to get their message out. It's not really surprising that Brooks was the one to break the firings yesterday.
 
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