Rumor: Dreger: McTavish, Mintyukov, McQueen for Thomas and Parayko (discussed before trade deadline, not currently being worked on)

[Leo2Cutter]

I assume there was a few picks after that

 

[Leo2Cutter]

Shockingly bad return for the Blues considering what they already had on the table for Parayko alone.

I mean there was prob also a 1st and other stuff

Mintyukov + 1st is pretty much Mrtka + 1st

 

[bleedblue1223]

Yeah, it's basically Minty+1st for Parayko being more or less the Mrtka+1st for Parayko. McTavish+McQueen roughly gets the Norris+Helenius, and then you add a couple assets from there to finish off the Thomas portion of the deal.

 

[JKG33]

Can someone help break down the idiom? He says "down the road" but then implies past modal perfect tense...

I think he means it was down the road in the sense that it was being worked on. The two GMs had left home and driven down the road of working on that trade.

A better one would've been "the train had left the station"

 

[Leo2Cutter]

Yeah, it's basically Minty+1st for Parayko being more or less the Mrtka+1st for Parayko. McTavish+McQueen roughly gets the Norris+Helenius, and then you add a couple assets from there to finish off the Thomas portion of the deal.

Depending on what the other pieces were, it’s solid frame work.

Mintyukov and mctavish are already young nhl players…. McQueen is another potential top 6 center. Just interesting how many pieces Anaheim adds to that…. I assume blues 2nd next year woulda been included, prob another prospect.

Granted I feel like Mintyukov + 1st is too high for Parayko….. pretty sure we heard Anaheim wasn’t willing to do that straight across, so maybe it breaks down
Parayko for Mintyukov + 2nd
Thomas for McQueen, mctavish, 26 1st +

 

[zmckenzie06]

Dreger has now *personally* said Thomas would be traded to: Montreal, Toronto, Utah, Detroit, San Jose, Buffalo, Carolina, Minnesota, and now the ducks. Have we considered he may have no idea what he is talking about at all and is just catering to bigger markets talking about how they are going to swindle the blues?

 

[tradestheyen]

Can someone help break down the idiom? He says "down the road" but then implies past modal perfect tense...

He's just a bad writer.

 

[Rec T]

Depending on what the other pieces were, it’s solid frame work.

Mintyukov and mctavish are already young nhl players…. McQueen is another potential top 6 center. Just interesting how many pieces Anaheim adds to that…. I assume blues 2nd next year woulda been included, prob another prospect.

Granted I feel like Mintyukov + 1st is too high for Parayko….. pretty sure we heard Anaheim wasn’t willing to do that straight across, so maybe it breaks down
Parayko for Mintyukov + 2nd
Thomas for McQueen, mctavish, 26 1st +

Washington has this year's first.

Thomas is about the only one I wouldn't instantly hate for the two Mc's...but that's still a pretty steep price to make the window 'now' without seeing how the team as a whole grows this year. Several of the youngsters have to hit rather than seeing how everyone does/grows and then tweak from there to be able to put the hammer down in 27-28.

 

[Leo2Cutter]

Washington has this year's first.

Thomas is about the only one I wouldn't instantly hate for the two Mc's...but that's still a pretty steep price to make the window 'now' without seeing how the team as a whole grows this year. Several of the youngsters have to hit rather than seeing how everyone does/grows and then tweak from there to be able to put the hammer down in 27-28.

This situation would have happened prior to the carlson trade.... we wouldnt have made the carlson trade if this hapened.

 

[Em etah Eh]

Thomas rumors were finally put to bed and now Dreger brings up old junk to bring them back from the dead. Great job…

 

[Yatzhee]

So, if McTavish is such a great player why is his name involved in trade rumors?

McTavish’s value is not high if he is constantly being brought up as an asset to move up n trade after trade and proposal.

 

[McDonald19]

So, if McTavish is such a great player why is his name involved in trade rumors?

McTavish’s value is not high if he is constantly being brought up as an asset to move up n trade after trade and proposal.

Is anyone saying he is great? Everyone on here has been saying he sucks for the last year.

Some fan bases wanted to offer sheet him last summer because he looked like a decent young 2C, and 2Cs are hard to find.

 

[Leo2Cutter]

So, if McTavish is such a great player why is his name involved in trade rumors?

McTavish’s value is not high if he is constantly being brought up as an asset to move up n trade after trade and proposal.

I mean thomas is involved in trade rumors does that mean hes not great?

Knies is involved in trade rumors? is he dog shit?

what kind of basic mentality is this lol.

The rumors have never said anaheim is putting mctavish name out there, they rumors have always said other teams have been asking bout mctavish. Which leads me to believe Anaheim is perfectly content keeping mctavish... but if you can trade him for an upgrade why wouldnt you?

 

[Static]

Mctavish stinks, but he still likely has high value around the league due to his youth, pretty good production for his age, his ability to play center, and his draft pedigree. But he stinks. Any team that trades a bunch for him is going to be disappointed.

 

[FiveTacos]

I mean thomas is involved in trade rumors does that mean hes not great?

Knies is involved in trade rumors? is he dog shit?

what kind of basic mentality is this lol.

The rumors have never said anaheim is putting mctavish name out there, they rumors have always said other teams have been asking bout mctavish. Which leads me to believe Anaheim is perfectly content keeping mctavish... but if you can trade him for an upgrade why wouldnt you?

Yup, shown enough promise that a lot of teams would be interested, but struggled this year so potentially available.

It's like the report saying a bunch of teams are calling to make offers on McTavish ... But they are now hesitant because there's so much chatter so there must be something wrong with him? Would they somehow feel like he's a better player if only one other team were interested instead of like a dozen?

 

[FiveTacos]

Mctavish stinks, but he still likely has high value around the league due to his youth, pretty good production for his age, his ability to play center, and his draft pedigree. But he stinks. Any team that trades a bunch for him is going to be disappointed.

Then again two years ago many Ducks fans were saying the same about a 23 year old Lacombe.

 

[SundherDome]

Glad I'm not the only one whose head was exploding over this.

"Down the road" meant it was progressing, assuming they maybe asking people to waive NTC? Was confirms it was at the deadline.

 

[Leo2Cutter]

"Down the road" meant it was progressing, assuming they maybe asking people to waive NTC? Was confirms it was at the deadline.

Was def kinda weird way to say it... but i think pretty much this.

They had discussions, added pieces to try to facilitate a trade.... but ultimately couldnt get it across the line. I dont think the Blues should be trading thomas personally, i think i still see them as kinda a dark horse to jump back into contention next year.

I assume the blues wanted 1 more premium piece and Anaheim prob wasnt willing to budge, or maybe discussion on certain pieces just never crossed the line.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Shockingly bad return for the Blues considering what they already had on the table for Parayko alone.

True but one less year in term left now too. Do you think the Sabres offer the same package for Parayko with one less playoff run with Parayko still performing well? I don't.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Wow, that would be huge. I actually like it for both sides.

What do the Blues fans think about McTavish? This time last year he was considered untouchable or close to it but things have changed a lot over the last 12 months.

I like McTavish but man... his numbers are 49 pts and 21 goals over 300+ games and provides a bit of grit. He's not a center... more like a power forward winger. Skating not good enough to be a center.

At age 23, how much more growth do us fans expect on McTavish? Personally, the max value I give in a trade for him is 50-60 pts and 20-25 goals. He has not shown flashes that indicates he can produce way more than that (so far). Age 23/24 coming.

 

[Static]

Then again two years ago many Ducks fans were saying the same about a 23 year old Lacombe.

Lacombe had one year of NHL tape. McTavish has four.

 

[Leo2Cutter]

What do the Blues fans think about McTavish? This time last year he was considered untouchable or close to it but things have changed a lot over the last 12 months.

I like McTavish but man... his numbers are 49 pts and 21 goals over 300+ games and provides a bit of grit. He's not a center... more like a power forward winger. Skating not good enough to be a center.

At age 23, how much more growth do us fans expect on McTavish? Personally, the max value I give in a trade for him is 50-60 pts and 20-25 goals. He has not shown flashes that indicates he can produce way more than that (so far). Age 23/24 coming.

He’s shown flashes there’s more there…. He’s had stretches where he looked like a low end 1c.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He’s shown flashes there’s more there…. He’s had stretches where he looked like a low end 1c.

I'm not buying it. His best season was 24/25 and this was a free wheeling NHL bottom 10 Ducks roster.

Nobody is offering 60-80 pts and 25-30 goals of value. Career numbers are 49 pts and 21 goals and the best value I offer in a trade is 50-60 pts and 20-25 goals.

You will get offers but if you are big fish hunting, you will have to add a good piece on top and dangle that. Won't be with the Habs because we are after using futures to acquire. Bad fit in that case.

 

[Leo2Cutter]

I'm not buying it. His best season was 24/25 and this was a free wheeling NHL bottom 10 Ducks roster.

Nobody is offering 60-80 pts and 25-30 goals of value. Career numbers are 49 pts and 21 goals and the best value I offer in a trade is 50-60 pts and 20-25 goals.

You will get offers but if you are big fish hunting, you will have to add a good piece on top and dangle that. Won't be with the Habs because we are after using futures to acquire. Bad fit in that case.

Ive always said habs don’t make good trade partners for mctavish unless we really like Reinbacher


And of course were going to add to mctavish to upgrade.... if we didnt need to add for an upgrade wed just keep mctavish.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Ive always said habs don’t make good trade partners for mctavish unless we really like Reinbacher


And of course were going to add to mctavish to upgrade.... if we didnt need to add for an upgrade wed just keep mctavish.

I wish you luck. Hopefully it don't drag on like it did for Zegras and you end up moving him for less than what teams offered to you last summer.

My gut says the offers this summer are less than last summer. It was a rough season for McTavish

Based on what happened with Zegras, I do think McTavish is moved this summer. Ducks are going to have to do their due diligence to figure out what the best return is.

I think Reinbacher might have been on the table last summer but not sure we even offer him 1/1 at this stage now. There are a fair amount of Habs fans who are low on McTavish now.