Rumor: Dreger: Belief that Mason McTavish is going to be traded

[FiveTacos]

I'm not one to use just one angle and go all crazy on it. I think the coach is a factor yes but the reasons why the coach was doing what he was doing is valid as well.

He insisted on playing conservative offensively, when he clearly had a roster of rush oriented players. And he insisted on playing a clampdown defensive system with a bunch of young guys, which also makes no sense. End result was the team was poor offensively AND defensively.

Q at least had enough sense to look at the roster and realize they were gonna have to outscore their problems this year.

Us fans can defend the player or defend the coach. McTavish has to be better as a 200' forward. This is not something we can ignore and blame the coach and then say, he still has high value and it's the coaches fault.

Is anyone ignoring it? Even his ardent defenders acknowledge he's got work to do defensively. I also don't think for a 23 year old forward that's a deal breaker.

That said, the other poster's claim that he has not shown offensive flashes is also clearly and demonstrably untrue.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He insisted on playing conservative offensively, when he clearly had a roster of rush oriented players. And he insisted on playing a clampdown defensive system with a bunch of young guys, which also makes no sense. End result was the team was poor offensively AND defensively.

Q at least had enough sense to look at the roster and realize they were gonna have to outscore their problems this year.



Is anyone ignoring it? Even his ardent defenders acknowledge he's got work to do defensively. I also don't think for a 23 year old forward that's a deal breaker.

That said, the other poster's claim that he has not shown offensive flashes is also clearly and demonstrably untrue.

I'm out. I said enough about McTavish today. I stand by what I said. I value him but my trade value offered is 50-60 pts and 20-25 goals. Nothing more or nothing less. I'm trading for a physical winger. Not a true type center.

 

[LuGBuG]

I'm not one to use just one angle and go all crazy on it. I think the coach is a factor yes but the reasons why the coach was doing what he was doing is valid as well.

Us fans can defend the player or defend the coach. McTavish has to be better as a 200' forward. This is not something we can ignore and blame the coach and then say, he still has high value and it's the coaches fault.

He absolutely has to be better. Not arguing that at all. I’m just saying the team was awful then, he was young with a terrible coach. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t need to be better.

 

[LuGBuG]

I'm out. I said enough about McTavish today. I stand by what I said. I value him but my trade value offered is 50-60 pts and 20-25 goals. Nothing more or nothing less. I'm trading for a physical winger. Not a true type center.

Well good for you. I can’t see any reason why we’d trade him as that when we’ve seen long streaks of him being more. If that comes back to bite us so be it.

 

[SirPaste]

Dreger is so full of crap

 

[MCB]

Dreger has now *personally* said Thomas would be traded to: Montreal, Toronto, Utah, Detroit, San Jose, Buffalo, Carolina, Minnesota, and now the ducks. Have we considered he may have no idea what he is talking about at all and is just catering to bigger markets talking about how they are going to swindle the blues?

You just described being an "insider" nowadays.

 

[HFpapi]

Not to make everything about the Leafs but I would give Matthews and any Dman of Anaheim's choice for this package. This is a pretty huge package.

 

[Rec T]

Not to make everything about the Leafs but I would give Matthews and any Dman of Anaheim's choice for this package. This is a pretty huge package.

Yeah, you're not getting something that big from anyone for AM as a two year rental. That's before even taking into consideration what his AAV would do to their salary cap considerations/negotiations next year to keep him around off into the future.

 

[terranraida]

hang up the phone and block the number, beeker.

 

[NYRnine94]

If i'm Anaheim, i keep the young guys and try to get a better trade. Why would you want a 33 year old Parayko?

 

[Falco Lombardi]

The problem is what the hell is STL doing? They traded their captain at the deadline. They are highly likely moving on from their #1 goalie this summer. They've been rumored to move off of Kyrou. So like what the hell is happening? Are you in or are you rebuilding?

We largely rebuilt already. Binnington is not the number 1 goalie anymore. He’ll be a backup for a year unless someone gives a good deal.

Jordan Kyrou will be here again unless someone gives a good deal.

The Blues are just building to the future now. We’re just not a team that is going to be trading picks for rentals and going for it, but should be a team contending for a playoff birth

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Whether its a Thomas trade with the Ducks or not, the Blues need to make moves and tank the next couple of seasons or they will be stuck in mediocrity like the 2010s era Minnesota Wild that would sneak in as 8th seed and get blasted in the first round. Thing is they already have been stuck in mediocrity the past few years. Right now the Blues aren't bad enough to consistently win Top3 picks and not good enough to make the playoffs. I predict they will finish worse next season but likely still out of the top3 picks in 2027.

 

[Leo2Cutter]

Not to make everything about the Leafs but I would give Matthews and any Dman of Anaheim's choice for this package. This is a pretty huge package.

Thomas is 1 of the few realistic 2c I’d offer that package for

Matthews contract situation + injuries make it so I’d never want to pony up that kinda offer for him

 

[hockeyguy0022]

Why? Age groups are messed up in this trade, anaheim isn't competing that soon... I bet mcqueen turns into a decent player.

I don't understand why.

 

[Leo2Cutter]

Why? Age groups are messed up in this trade, anaheim isn't competing that soon... I bet mcqueen turns into a decent player.

I don't understand why.

Thomas is elite and cheap…. He’s the perfect target for Anaheim tbh. I mean we’re literally already competing.

Parayko is debatable, personally I wouldn’t want him at the expense of Mintyukov.

Thomas is probably the only player in the league I’d consider moving McQueen for, at least that could be realistically be had

 

[Flyerfamily]

Flyers have flirted with trading for McTarnish ... Flyers need a center and he fits. See if they can make a deal

 

[Leo2Cutter]

Flyers have flirted with trading for McTarnish ... Flyers need a center and he fits. See if they can make a deal

I just don’t know if they make a good trade partner

I mean what’s a deal look like? If we miss out on Trouba maybe risto makes sense…. But I’m not big on trading a potential top 6 center at 23 for a 31 year old dmen.

Michkov but I can’t imagine Philly would be into that, nor does michkov seem like a player PV would like.

 

[PuckFegula]

That’s a lotta Ms, man, feels unbalanced.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Flyers have flirted with trading for McTarnish ... Flyers need a center and he fits. See if they can make a deal

The Flyers don't have what the Ducks need for Mctavish, a 2C or a top 4 RD (Risto is too old and injury prone for a McT deal).

 

[JianYang]

Can someone help break down the idiom? He says "down the road" but then implies past modal perfect tense...

Thats dregernomics.

He just says shit in a way that cant be wrong

 

[westc2]

Thomas is elite and cheap…. He’s the perfect target for Anaheim tbh. I mean we’re literally already competing.

Parayko is debatable, personally I wouldn’t want him at the expense of Mintyukov.

Thomas is probably the only player in the league I’d consider moving McQueen for, at least that could be realistically be had

If you want Thomas it'll cost you McQueen and Leo Carlsson. He's not available for trade.

 

[nogatco rd]

Can someone help break down the idiom? He says "down the road" but then implies past modal perfect tense...

Not clear to me either but context clues suggest he means the trade was “well on its way” to being consummated, before ultimately being shelved. Thats my reading anyway.

 

[Leo2Cutter]

If you want Thomas it'll cost you McQueen and Leo Carlsson. He's not available for trade.

This thread is about a trade that was supposedly in discussion….

Not currant, blues said they arnt trading Thomas anymore…. But the trade discussed didn’t involve Carlsson, And blues just don’t have anything that would get us to move Leo

 

[JiggywithGibby]

If you want Thomas it'll cost you McQueen and Leo Carlsson. He's not available for trade.

It's pretty clear to see Leo is already the better center today, so the fact you think St Louis would be getting Leo, let alone plus, is laughable.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I sure love reading about trades that didn't happen...

Lets get on with some ACTUAL news please