Draft Lottery Winners. What Would Be The Biggest Story?

Lays

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As a Rangers fan, I really hope the Wings land Dahlin (if we don’t) they have 0 future elite pieces and they NEED a dman more than any other team in the league, they’ve always tried to stay competitive too. Adds another stud Swede to a franchise full of them
For the Rangers, I have a weird feeling we’ll pick top 3. I’m usually really pessimistic about us but for some reason I see us somehow ending up in the top 3 either through luck or trade
 
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Bobcat110

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I get that. And it definitely hasn't been fair. Not all these teams have had luck with the lottery and draft years, but there is more value in those top 10 picks.

I'm a Bruins fan and don't have a dog in this fight, and actually like a few of the teams I hope don't win it while not a fan of some of the teams I hope do win it. For me, it's just kinda hit a point that I'm disappointed and frustrated seeing the same teams down there - and that fans of a third of the league have started hoping that their teams lose. Takes a lot of fun out of the game. There was a Habs vs. Bruins game and month or so ago and half the Habs fans wanted them to lose, worried more about their draft standings than beating their classic rival. That's sad.

Toronto and Tampa have climbed out of the basement again but am hoping that neither wins the Cup soon or it'll just keep the circle going of tanking for high picks being the only way to be successful. I like the Blackhawks but the worst thing that happened is them winning three Cups after Bill Wirtz nearly destroyed the team in his last few years there as people have looked at that as the model of building a franchise.

I know I'm on a soap box and being all holier than thou but I want fans in a lot of these markets to simply demand better.

Yes. There can be value still in picks 4-10. But the sure things are gone and the franchise players are rarer to find. Does Pittsburgh win 3 cups if they pick 4th in 2003, 2004 and 2005?

Just a final note, CBJ fans did demand better and staged protests against management. Of course, then other NHL fans saw empty seats and pointed to Columbus as another failed non-hockey market in sunbelt state because fans stopped going to games.

Blue Jackets fans protesting

I think cbj are in pretty good hands now.
 

BelovedIsles

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Not to mention that there is no way JT leaves if NYI wins even one of their lottery picks.

Not necessarily. He has stated that he wants to win, a few shiny prospects isn't going to sway him, I suspect. Bringing in better leadership would have more of an impact than two teenagers.
 
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CauZuki

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Not necessarily. He has stated that he wants to win, a few shiny prospects isn't going to sway him, I suspect. Bringing in better leadership would have more of an impact than two teenagers.

I agree but I think Tavares isn't too old to thw point where he can only win in the next 2 years or so. Especially with the emergence of Barzal , they quite recently acquired Eberle and I think with Dahlin they could make a run as early as 2019-2020.
 

CauZuki

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Just saying Rangers are only team in league to never have a first overall pick....

Habs last 1 overall was nearly 40 years ago but I feel your pain. It's hard winning the lottery when you are a perrenial playoff contender. I suppose there is a luck factor as well.
 

pheasant

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Chicago would probably be the biggest story, aside from the Edmonton meltdown. Having a decade of success, one season of failure, and getting to trampoline off the bottom of the standings back into contender would be a huge story.

But I would prefer the non-story where he goes to Arizona. That team needs and deserves some good news.
 

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Vancouver and Detroit: good karma for not being a ***** team that intentionally tanks
Have you seen Vancouver's record since February? I think they were saying on the radio they earned 11 pts with the next closest team earning 24. If any team is tanking, its them. They still have a ways to go in making up for all the negative karma from 2011.
 

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Yes. There can be value still in picks 4-10. But the sure things are gone and the franchise players are rarer to find. Does Pittsburgh win 3 cups if they pick 4th in 2003, 2004 and 2005?

Just a final note, CBJ fans did demand better and staged protests against management. Of course, then other NHL fans saw empty seats and pointed to Columbus as another failed non-hockey market in sunbelt state because fans stopped going to games.

Blue Jackets fans protesting

I think cbj are in pretty good hands now.

In all honesty, I appreciate what you're saying and has me wanting to mentally take Columbus off that list in my head. Boston did the same sort of thing in the 90s and it changed.
I know it's tough cheering for teams that are struggling year in year out and of course fans are going to be dreaming of better days. Just that I find Management/Ownership/Marketting targeting that as compared to trying to ice the best most competitive team they can.

20 years ago (or so) The Flames got ridiculed for their 'Young Guns' campaign with a young Iginla, Stillman, Trevor Kidd, Marc Savard, V. Bure, Titov, Cassels, (Saprykin?) etc. but nowadays that's become incredibly common as people are becoming more arm chair G.M.s.

I am a Bruins fan so am biased - but it wouldn't be the worst thing League-wide if they won a couple Cups over the next few years (there's a few other candidates also like San Jose, St. Louis, etc) just so that fans can point to some concrete examples of teams that didn't make their fans suffer through years of brutal hockey to become a perennial contender. All fans deserve better.

Thanks for your well spoken (typed) level-headed non-defensive posts. Much appreciated.
 

AvroArrow

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Edmonton - NHL Lottery is rigged.

They should be banned from the lottery for the next decade. Really hoping the league implements some sort of rule to stop teams from picking 1st overall multiple times in a small time frame.

For example, cant be eligible for 1st overall more than 2 times in 5 year span. Total horse shit that they can potentially pick #1 again.
 

CupsOverCash

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They should be banned from the lottery for the next decade. Really hoping the league implements some sort of rule to stop teams from picking 1st overall multiple times in a small time frame.

For example, cant be eligible for 1st overall more than 2 times in 5 year span. Total horse **** that they can potentially pick #1 again.

And none 2 in a row.
 

JoeThorntonsRooster

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Nyi.

They could win TWO of the lottery spots including the one from Calgary. Imagine getting Dahlin with the Calgary pick followed by Svechnikov with their own.

That would be insane. You've got to think that Tavares would stay if that happened, and in that case, a core of Tavares, Barzal, Svechnikov, and Dahlin would be beast.
 

Cupless44

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Edmonton would cause the biggest reaction and have this site crash again, but the Hawks winning would be 2nd.

Best story would be either Arizona or Vancouver winning it. Neither of those teams have drafted #1 overall.


50 years in the league and NEVER a first pick. Suffering through a very bad team. It's Vancouver's turn!
 

Cupless44

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Just want to add that the league went too far when they changed the system to avoid intentional tanking and too many Oiler first picks.
 

ref88

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Are you implying that the guy chasing down his 2nd consecutive Art Ross, and best player in the world, isn't worth the raise. We all know Edmonton isn't as bad as their record indicates. Good teams have bad years in a league with so much parity, when circumstance doesn't go their way.
We do? They are pretty awful outside of a couple of players.
 

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