GDT: Draft Day GDT -- Sabres current picks: 14, 42, 71, 108, 123, 172, 204, 219

[Jim Bob]

Are the Sabres aware if a player has a no move before discussing a deal with a Club ?

Until CapFriendly goes away, the information is easily accessible.

 

[Fjordy]

It is possible Adams will be fired before next season ends.

Was thinking of the rumor that Don Wadell met with Pegula earlier this year.

If he doesn't make the playoffs, sure. Especially if he can't give Lindy a competitive roster, because this f***ing conference is pretty strong and other teams will improve as always, and we'll just pray for internal growth and no injuries (which they will).

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

WGR this morning: Kevin Adams trade cost structure/variables have to change to be able to close deals. They have to start outbidding other teams to make deals/get players to Buffalo. I wonder if Jeremy is getting this from the inside ?

I'm livid they haven't been outbidding Ottawa

 

[TageGod]

How is "not blocking the prospects" working out for us?

You clearly did not listen. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. You need to know if Tage or Cozens can be a 1C. If Dahlin can be a 1D, IF UPL can be a 1G. You have to figure out what your core players are and where they fit. THEN you go out and improve. You will never know what Peterka or Quinn could be if you never gave them the chance. Tage might be in the AHL if not for the opportunity to play. NOW, there is limited room to allow prospects ice time, but you do still need to bring in young ELC players especially in the next few years when cap gets tighter. You want a Savoie making peanuts and performing well.

Idk if you noticed, but the "Prospects" were their best players last year. This organization seems to be getting good prospects, and they perform well when they get into the big club.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

It is possible Adams will be fired before next season ends.

Was thinking of the rumor that Don Wadell met with Pegula earlier this year.

I mean we have two assistant GM's now and a Associate GM so if it did actually happen I would expect a internal move. Also well known how Forton who was just elevated to Ast is connected to the owner.

 

[Fjordy]

I mean we have two assistant GM's now and a Associate GM so if it did actually happen I would expect a internal move. Also well knowm how Forton who was just elevated to Ast is connected to the owner.

If they fire Adams, I expect him to bring in an experienced GM.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Until CapFriendly goes away, the information is easily accessible.

Why would they constantly waste the time chasing deals they know they will not close ? Seems ass backwards. On the job training ?

 

[Jim Bob]

I'm livid they haven't been outbidding Ottawa

Given how Ottawa has made moves and not passed the Sabres in the standings, I'm not.

Let the Sens keep doing what they are doing.

If they fire Adams, I expect him to bring in an experienced GM.

I wouldn't.

Pegula has never hired an experienced GM for either his NHL or NFL team.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

If they fire Adams, I expect him to bring in an experienced GM.

Knowing the owner's apparent and current disdain for that I would respectfully disagree with you.

 

[Fjordy]

I wouldn't.

Pegula has never hired an experienced GM for either his NHL or NFL team.

Everything happens for the first time (the league will tell him)

 

[Jacob582]

You clearly did not listen. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. You need to know if Tage or Cozens can be a 1C. If Dahlin can be a 1D, IF UPL can be a 1G. You have to figure out what your core players are and where they fit. THEN you go out and improve. You will never know what Peterka or Quinn could be if you never gave them the chance. Tage might be in the AHL if not for the opportunity to play. NOW, there is limited room to allow prospects ice time, but you do still need to bring in young ELC players especially in the next few years when cap gets tighter. You want a Savoie making peanuts and performing well.

Idk if you noticed, but the "Prospects" were their best players last year. This organization seems to be getting good prospects, and they perform well when they get into the big club.

Why do you HAVE to? Is this the only way to rebuild?

 

[Jim Bob]

Everything happens for the first time (the league will tell him)

The league told him to hire Murray AND Botterill. And we saw how that worked out.

 

[Fjordy]

Knowing the owner's apparent and current disdain for that I would respectfully disagree with you.

Well, we'll see or not.

The league told him to hire Murray AND Botterill. And we saw how that worked out.

And now they'll tell him to hire an experienced GM. (Terry listens to the League all the time)

Or just Lindy GM or he will tell Pegula to hire an experienced GM

 

[Chainshot]

Are the Sabres aware if a player has a no move before discussing a deal with a Club ? Seems logical to know first before you waste the time.

I would imagine they are.

 

[Chainshot]

This is only somewhat fair. That deal which Murray tanked from Ottawa would have been a Darcy level fleecing. I'm willing to give partial credit for moves like that which are 100% out of the hands of the GM to take over the line. He did what was ordinarily the hard part: convincing a divisional rival to shot their own foot.

At this point though, he has played out his cache of good will about being in on incomplete transactions. We don’t need to here it, it holds no benefit.

 

[Dirty Dog]

I wouldn’t defend an off-season of inactivity from KA, it would doom this season. But any complaints for this season are premature, it’s still in its early stages. BUT if doesn’t use any draft picks to acquire a notable player or two, that will be a big wasted opportunity that only a very active early July could absolve

 

[Chainshot]

Why do you HAVE to? Is this the only way to rebuild?

Last summer, installing talent was an option. They went with and continue to lean into not block prospects. Not for nothing but f*** prospects - start icing a winning team.

 

[HOOats]

I wouldn’t defend an off-season of inactivity from KA, it would doom this season. But any complaints for this season are premature, it’s still in its early stages. BUT if doesn’t use any draft picks to acquire a notable player or two, that will be a big wasted opportunity that only a very active early July could absolve

For sure.

But who do you want to replace Adams after the holidays, Don Waddell, Jason Karmanos, or Brad May? That is now the discussion on [checks notes] the morning of the NHL Draft.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Last summer, installing talent was an option. They went with and continue to lean into not block prospects. Not for nothing but f*** prospects - start icing a winning team.

As if once you add guys on 2-4 year contracts, they can't be moved again and prospects have to die on the vine in Rochester. What a BS PR line. This is where I go the extra step into thinking it's convenient logic to pass along through the media, just to get away with being a cap basement team for a few years without much criticism. Not everyone has to think so, but when guys keep getting traded or allowed to walk once they get arb rights, I can't help but be pessimistic.

 

[Dirty Dog]

For sure.

But who do you want to replace Adams after the holidays, Don Waddell, Jason Karmanos, or Brad May? That is now the discussion on [checks notes] the morning of the NHL Draft.

What is Matt Ellis up to?

 

[TehDoak]

You clearly did not listen. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. You need to know if Tage or Cozens can be a 1C. If Dahlin can be a 1D, IF UPL can be a 1G. You have to figure out what your core players are and where they fit. THEN you go out and improve. You will never know what Peterka or Quinn could be if you never gave them the chance. Tage might be in the AHL if not for the opportunity to play. NOW, there is limited room to allow prospects ice time, but you do still need to bring in young ELC players especially in the next few years when cap gets tighter. You want a Savoie making peanuts and performing well.

Idk if you noticed, but the "Prospects" were their best players last year. This organization seems to be getting good prospects, and they perform well when they get into the big club.

Stop right there. We've gone through the process. We've gone through 13 years of the process. Teams that didn't exist the last time we made the playoffs have been to the finals multiple times. Another team that didn't exsist when Adams started as GM won a playoff round last year.

This GM took over a .500 team with a three top 2 draft picks, who haven't been busts, and drove it straight off a cliff in less than a year. Two of top 2 draft picks he traded away went on to be the Conn Smythe runner up and one just scored the cup clinching goal.

I am 41 years old. I haven't seen a Sabres playoff game since I was single. I'm married with two kids now about to start school. I've lived in seven different apartments/townhomes/houses. Last time the Sabres were in the playoffs I was in a bar doing shots with my friends.

We've gone through the process. Multiple times. Enough is enough.

 

[Chainshot]

What is Matt Ellis up to?

About 5’11”.

 

[Dirty Dog]

About 5’11”.

Maybe he is still growing into the role! Let the boy be

 

[HOOats]

What is Matt Ellis up to?

Heard he's opening a shop repurposing old hockey sticks in the Shoppes @ HarborCenter. Adirondack chairs, keychains, bottle openers, etc. Rustic but modern.

But I'm sure he's available to jump over to the GM chair if Adams doesn't trade Kulich for grit and jam by 2pm toiday.

 

[Chainshot]

Maybe he is still growing into the role! Let the boy be

His power play was enough fertilizer to grow too much.