Draft and UDFA Thread 2018-19: Part V (Lottery 04/09 8PM EST)

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It’s projecting play styles based on their tools

Ronning didn’t play like Cally or Gallagher but some of his tendencies and upside projected him to be a worse Cally or Gallagher at the NHL level. This isn’t exactly new, it’s ALWAYS been like this. I don’t know why you keep assuming I don’t watch junior hockey

Exactly!

Eberle was a mega star in two concecutive WJCs, had 26 pts in 12 games over two tournaments. But got less space in the NHL. Super crisp playmaker and passer, nifty around the net.

Honestly, I just don’t get how you can trash an Eberle/Zegras comparison to the extent especially Edge have.

But it’s just my opinion, I could be wrong. But it’s not like Eberle is some total scrub and Zegras a sure fire PPG player in the NHL. Statistically it’s not even unlikely that most of the players outside the top 1-2 in this draft will score around the 50-60 pts Eberle get per season, so it fits from that perspective too.
 
That is nothing, I am watching 1,000,000 non NHL games per season and 31 GMs call me at least 10 times per day each.

Slight down from last year when all AHL GMs called me for advice too.

It’s no problem. The hockey season is 200 days. 1,000,000 nhl games take less than 200 days x 24 hours to watch, you are lazy only watching 5 non NHL games per day.

I’m getting older. Have to slow down.
 
Exactly!

Eberle was a mega star in two concecutive WJCs, had 26 pts in 12 games over two tournaments. But got less space in the NHL. Super crisp playmaker and passer, nifty around the net.

Honestly, I just don’t get how you can trash an Eberle/Zegras comparison to the extent especially Edge have.

But it’s just my opinion, I could be wrong. But it’s not like Eberle is some total scrub and Zegras a sure fire PPG player in the NHL. Statistically it’s not even unlikely that most of the players outside the top 1-2 in this draft will score around the 50-60 pts Eberle get per season, so it fits from that perspective too.
Eberle is a soft shoot first forward that’s a defensive liability-nothing like Zegras
 
Zegras is a playmaker with possibly the highest hockey IQ in this draft. Eberle a shoot first scoring winger who was and still is mostly a one way player.

Where is this comparison even coming from?!

Oh yeah, Zegras is also a C for the most part :s
 
Eberle is a soft shoot first forward that’s a defensive liability-nothing like Zegras

I have to back track. But first of all, I don't get the "shoot first" description at all, over his career he is averaging 2 shots per game. That is downright low for someone with almost 470 pts in 660 games. That is Zuccarello numbers. Eberle is 31st among active players in shooting%, he scores some goals but he certainly isn't throwing a lot of rubber on the net on a nightly basis. But, when checking Eberle's stats in the NHL, he certainly had more goals in relations to assist than I anticipated, and not by a small margin with 208/269. My bad, sometimes you think you got a better track of someone that have played mostly out West than you do.

I shouldn't trash others for being false and trying to team up with others to win pissing matches with made up stuff, twisted arguments and ridiculous claims (and report jokes like put down the pipe) and not back-track myself if I write something stupid. My point with the Eberle mentioning was that Eberle was a dominating junior player, with a very sharp passing game, that just got a lot less room in the NHL due to not being a top skater. They are also similar skaters.

Out of a NHL draft, you can expect 1-2 players who come in at a point per game pace, and if you draw the line at a bit more consistent 50-60 point scorers, you will just get a few more -- PER DRAFT. 5-6 more? Of which a few always are real late bloomers coming from later rounds.

Its not an insult nor tremendously far fetched to claim that a kid can "just" become a 50-60 pts scorer despite being a higher pick in a NHL draft. I have concerns about Zegras ability to keep producing at a higher level, and while I have concerns about just about every kid before a NHL draft, they are slightly bigger for Zegras compared to some other of the top 10 forwards. An argument that he is smart or is scoring a lot in juniors etc is not a total contradiction with a prediction that a kid will come in and score around 50-60 pts, all players getting to that level in the NHL were de facto total fantastic guys compared to 97.5% of the kids picked their draft year.

But comparing Zegras to Eberle was just sloppy and bad by me, I wrote that commentary for my ranking over about a day, its 11 pages long in word. Its no excuse but I've mostly just hammered away on my key-board and not considered a lot of issues that deeply. But its also why I called it a super preliminary draft ranking. But again, my bad and I apologize to you and Edge! ;)
 
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Yes, I have and I’ve come away very impressed with his ability and the potential for his game to translate to the pro level.

And three points of clarification:

1. Any players I reference are from a style standpoint, not from a projection standpoint.

2. By the time this draft will role around, I’m on pace to have seen close to 1000 non-NHL games this season. That’s down slightly from last year.

3. Being as I’m not a scout, I also work to incorporate views from scouts and other personnel I’m friendly with. That’s why there’s sometimes a line I draw between what I’m seeing, and what others are seeing. Case in point being Podkolzin. I don’t have him at three, but thus far most scouts and observers do.

I’m getting older. Have to slow down.

I was just lying. I wonder if I on average watch much more of 2 non-NHL games per week over a season. What can that total, 60-70 games non NHL games per season? Many weeks I watch none, then comes tournament periods etc when I watch more. Just for the record, NHL GMs don't call me for advice either.

I am however totally blown away by you watching 1000 non NHL games per season, which on average is 5 non-NHL games per day, though (assuming a hockey season is about 200 days), that also is down from previous years. Did you watch 6 non-NHL games per day on average before this year?

I have also always wondered why you don't post about games or kids you are watching, its always I feel that the consensus is this or that the consensus is that or stuff like that. But then all of a sudden you jump in and claim to know something about a kid. But if you are watching 5-6 non-NHL games per day its not strange that you don't have time to post about what you have seen? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts from a game or two for once. I just saw this kid play, he looked like this or that. Stuff like that.
 
I was just lying. I wonder if I on average watch much more of 2 non-NHL games per week over a season. What can that total, 60-70 games non NHL games per season? Many weeks I watch none, then comes tournament periods etc when I watch more. Just for the record, NHL GMs don't call me for advice either.

I am however totally blown away by you watching 1000 non NHL games per season, which on average is 5 non-NHL games per day, though (assuming a hockey season is about 200 days), that also is down from previous years. Did you watch 6 non-NHL games per day on average before this year?

I have also always wondered why you don't post about games or kids you are watching, its always I feel that the consensus is this or that the consensus is that or stuff like that. But then all of a sudden you jump in and claim to know something about a kid. But if you are watching 5-6 non-NHL games per day its not strange that you don't have time to post about what you have seen? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts from a game or two for once. I just saw this kid play, he looked like this or that. Stuff like that.

It's actually much easier than it used to be because I can download games and watch them while traveling or sitting in an airport. When you take our breaks, commercials, intermission, etc. it's not quite as hard as it seems. Having said that, it's a bi-product of me traveling an insane amount for work.

Last year the amount was a little higher because it was a year with more traveling, some years it's considerably less. So it varies by year. But not every game is live and in person, THAT would be impossible.

I post quite a bit about kids I am watching, it just depends on when one is traveling. For example I've been posting about the class of 2019 for a year and a half already. But it depends on what people are looking for. If I post something on Turcotte, 50 people notice. If I post something about Case McCarthy or Kaedan Korczak, it quickly gets swept away.

I've given extensive backgrounders on many of the kids we've talked about, but it's typically spread out over several months. And my lists aren't always about consensus, prime examples over the last few years include names like Newhook and Farabee being higher. I currently have Byram third, which I don't think is too commonplace.

Concerning consensus, I think it's important to have something to contrast the board's views against. Generally speaking, our board, like any other, gets into a thought process and after a while we assume that's the way the world sees it. In some cases, it's not. So when we talk about things like "Kakko giving Hughes a run for his money" or "Turcotte being the third best prospect in the draft" or "Podkolzin dropping across multiple lists" I think it's important that we fact-check that a little or provide some context because that's not always necessarily accurate. Obviously it could happen, but it's important to hit the pause button at times and say, "That's not what we're seeing outside of this board."

But if there's a particular prospect you'd like to discuss, I'm more than happy to. It's just not always possible to discuss all prospects at all times. And in many cases, I've probably already said it (multiple times).
 
While everyone is pissing and moaning and swinging their metaphorical prospect-watching ****s, has anyone mentioned the rise Shane Pinto has been on since moving to Tri City?

I only really watched him when he was on a bad Lincoln team with minimal offense, but the kid is a good, strong skater with a good mix of skill and grittiness. I like that he’ll be going NoDak where it should round out the rest of his game and put him in a position to be a top offensive college player.
 
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While everyone is pissing and moaning and swinging their metaphorical prospect-watching ****s, has anyone mentioned the rise Shane Pinto has been on since moving to Tri City?

I only really watched him when he was on a bad Lincoln team with minimal offense, but the kid is a good, strong skater with a good mix of skill and grittiness. I like that he’ll be going NoDak where it should round out the rest of his game and put him in a position to be a top offensive college player.

From what I've seen, he looks good but not necessarily spectacular. If I didn't know he was seen as a potential second round pick, I can't see he did anything when I saw him to really stand out. I actually came away noticing Budy a bit more in my limited viewings of Tri-City this season.
 
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From what I've seen, he looks good but not necessarily spectacular. If I didn't know he was seen as a potential second round pick, I can't see he did anything when I saw him to really stand out. I actually came away noticing Budy a bit more in my limited viewings of Tri-City this season.
Psh, you watch games? Whatever you say, ya crazy old muppet ;)

I haven’t really watched him since, but on Lincoln, you could tell he was always a step ahead of his teammates. His best attribute is his ability to make strong cuts with his skating, and I think he has a shot that’s hard and slightly deceptive. I don’t think he’ll be anything amazing, but he seems to me to be the classic ppg USHL player that’ll be a good college player and bottom-6 NHLer. Boston, Chicago, and Pitt make their killing off identifying these guys because they already play pro style structures.

Ryan Siedem is the other RHD that I’ve really liked when I’ve watched him. My only concern is that he’s a Harvard commit, so he may be a 4 year player. Then again, that also just means we’ll sign him in July 2023, so maybe we should use our picks in someone else?
 
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It's actually much easier than it used to be because I can download games and watch them while traveling or sitting in an airport. When you take our breaks, commercials, intermission, etc. it's not quite as hard as it seems. Having said that, it's a bi-product of me traveling an insane amount for work.

Last year the amount was a little higher because it was a year with more traveling, some years it's considerably less. So it varies by year. But not every game is live and in person, THAT would be impossible.

Oh don’t be so modest, it’s still what atleast 7.5 hours a day, every day, for 8 straight months with non-NHL games. Ambitious!
 
Oh don’t be so modest, it’s still what atleast 7.5 hours a day, every day, for 8 straight months with non-NHL games. Ambitious!

Think about it though, if I'm on an international flight from the U.S., between security and the flight, I could find myself spending 2 hours in an airport, and maybe another 6 hours on the plane.

Though there are games where I cheat to and don't necessarily watch every shift of every player --- especially as the season progresses. For example if I've watched a handful of games of a particular team, I have a fairly good idea of who I'm looking for by March. If I'm watching Vancouver, I'm pretty focused on Byram at this point, not so much Jadon Joseph.
 
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Think about it though, if I'm on an international flight from the U.S., between security and the flight, I could find myself spending 2 hours in an airport, and maybe another 6 hours on the plane.

Though there are games where I cheat to and don't necessarily watch every shift of every player --- especially as the season progresses. For example if I've watched a handful of games of a particular team, I have a fairly good idea of who I'm looking for by March. If I'm watching Vancouver, I'm pretty focused on Byram at this point, not so much Jadon Joseph.

But you old muppet, you are just shy!

Just downloading those 5-6 games a day must take an hour of organization. I have heard of some nutty scouting people watching up towards 400 games per season, and I wouldn't put it past @Steve Kournianos to watch more than 500 games (or more?), and he watches old games the entire summer. But you double that, and this during a period when you watch less hockey than usual, and that isn't even including what 100-200 NHL games per season?! Wow!

I've given extensive backgrounders on many of the kids we've talked about, but it's typically spread out over several months.

Do you have a secondary account or posts these extensive backgrounds anywhere else?

I searched to see what I have missed, but only found these comments on the kids ranked 11-20 by Button:

Philip Broberg

"Broberg is a bit on the raw side, not unlike how I view Lavoie, but they're almost different kinds of raw.

Broberg is on the younger side, anywhere from 6 to almost 10 months younger than some of the other talents. So you expect some holes, but I also think the upside is there.
"

Nikolayev
You have never mentioned him (could be a spelling thing?).

Knight
You have mentioned him in lists but never commented on him.

Pelletier
You have mentioned him in lists but never commented on him.

Dach
You have mentioned him 135 times, but this is the comments on his game that I could find. "I think Dach’s skating issues are overblown." and "Dach is a player who left me wanting more. A lot of the ingredients are there, but I never came away with the sense that he was a kid who I could envision as a driver at the NHL level."

Harley
"Personally, I like York more than Harley at this point. I think his game is a little more refined."

Then Krebs and Lavioe were mentioned -- and even described -- several times. Cam York was mentioned the odd time. Soderstrom:
"Have him at 20 and definitely in play for a later first."
"Things are still little up in the air with some of the defensive prospects, but there is some intrigue beyond Byram with guys like Honka and Soderstrom. "
"I like Soderstrom a lot. Don’t have him ranked ahead of Byram, but I could easily see him in more than a few top 10s"

You must know these kids so well, spending 7.5 hours a day 200 days in a row watching them, surely more than anyone else in the world. It just sounds like something coming from someone having seen the odd game and then read some scouting reports. Just want to know what I am missing?
 
@Edge could you gather up all the info on every potential '19 draftee and since I don't feel like reading could you just shoot it into my brain matrix style? Please dont leave anything out.

Thanks in advance.

Say after me: Turcotte, Turcotte, Turcotte, Turcotte, you don’t need to know anything else. ;)

I am no substitute for Edge, he does know a ton, but sometimes I wonder about some things. ;)
 
But you old muppet, you are just shy!

Just downloading those 5-6 games a day must take an hour of organization. I have heard of some nutty scouting people watching up towards 400 games per season, and I wouldn't put it past @Steve Kournianos to watch more than 500 games (or more?), and he watches old games the entire summer. But you double that, and this during a period when you watch less hockey than usual, and that isn't even including what 100-200 NHL games per season?! Wow!



Do you have a secondary account or posts these extensive backgrounds anywhere else?

I searched to see what I have missed, but only found these comments on the kids ranked 11-20 by Button:

Philip Broberg

"Broberg is a bit on the raw side, not unlike how I view Lavoie, but they're almost different kinds of raw.

Broberg is on the younger side, anywhere from 6 to almost 10 months younger than some of the other talents. So you expect some holes, but I also think the upside is there.
"

Nikolayev
You have never mentioned him (could be a spelling thing?).

Knight
You have mentioned him in lists but never commented on him.

Pelletier
You have mentioned him in lists but never commented on him.

Dach
You have mentioned him 135 times, but this is the comments on his game that I could find. "I think Dach’s skating issues are overblown." and "Dach is a player who left me wanting more. A lot of the ingredients are there, but I never came away with the sense that he was a kid who I could envision as a driver at the NHL level."

Harley
"Personally, I like York more than Harley at this point. I think his game is a little more refined."

Then Krebs and Lavioe were mentioned -- and even described -- several times. Cam York was mentioned the odd time. Soderstrom:
"Have him at 20 and definitely in play for a later first."
"Things are still little up in the air with some of the defensive prospects, but there is some intrigue beyond Byram with guys like Honka and Soderstrom. "
"I like Soderstrom a lot. Don’t have him ranked ahead of Byram, but I could easily see him in more than a few top 10s"

You must know these kids so well, spending 7.5 hours a day 200 days in a row watching them, surely more than anyone else in the world. It just sounds like something coming from someone having seen the odd game and then read some scouting reports. Just want to know what I am missing?

So here's some brief thoughts on the kids you asked about:

Broberg: Excellent in the offensive zone --- very good shot, gets the puck on the net, not afraid to take chances. On the defensive side of things, he's shown a physical side and a willingness to engage, do in large part in his ability to cover a lot of ground. I'd like to see him work on his transition game a bit more. For example, there are times it appears that he's unsure of whether he's supporting the play, or hanging back a bit. Additionally, he can be rushed in the neutral zone or sometimes goes for the homerun pass across the ice, when something simpler will do. But the tools and natural skills are there --- the shot, the skating, the vision, etc. It's a matter of figuring out when and how to best utilize them.

Dach: Underrated playmaker who does an excellent job of finding the open teammate and getting the puck to them. I'd like to see him shoot a bit more, as I think he has a good enough wrist shot to put up more goals. Don't see the skating being an issue, mainly because his agility and maneuverability are strong. Carries the puck well into the zone and is hard to separate from the puck, especially when he's got a head of stream under him. Smart at the transition play and finding him open man, but not as strong as I'd like if the opposition forces the offense to slow things down a bit.

Knight: Love his ability to square himself to shooters, give them an opening to entice them and then take it away. Great lateral movement, but doesn't waste a lot of energy. Very efficient and doesn't give up rebounds easily. Doesn't get rattled. His glove his very good, but not what I'd consider great. He makes up for that with his positioning. He does tend to play a little smaller in net, despite his size, and I'm curious as to how he'll adjust as better shooters attempt to go higher on him. It'll also be interesting to see if he learns to play a little more as the competition speeds up.

Pelletier: A very smart hockey player, who doesn't necessarily have a lot of individual skills that leap off the ice. Good speed, not necessarily great --- slippery. Very good vision and play making, but does struggle a bit when he has less room to operate. I'm not entirely sure his shot will translate at the higher levels, but he is willing to get himself into high percentage areas, so that could help. I don't know if I see I enough dynamic offensive pieces to project his ceiling as a top line prospect, but I definitely think he's skilled enough, and aware enough of his own strengths, that he could project as a second line center.

Harley: Very good playmaking ability and a strong ability to make smart decisions with the puck on his tap. Incredibly patient and not afraid to wait for his teammates to find an opening and get into position. Doesn't panic with the puck, but I do wonder if his shot is enough to be a weapon should he need to get the puck through traffic and to the net. Has spent some time working on his defense, and while it's not a strength, I honestly don't think it's as much of a concern as it was a year ago. Could stand to make his life in the defensive zone a little easier by being more aggressive and using his reach to force opponents to the outside. I don't know if he quite has that skill set where he can step up and completely change the course of a game like a Byram, or a Broberg, or that he has steadying presence of a Soderstrom.

Krebs: Probably one of the better two-way forwards available in this year's draft. Always in motion, does a lot of the little things to keep plays alive and turn seemingly innocent plays into chances. But at the same time, I'm not sure he's one those guys who looks like they might drive play. He rates as good to very good across the board, but I don't know if the higher end skill is there like some of the options at the top of the draft. He's got a good shot, but I didn't quite see it used as a weapon as often as you'd think. His points come from a hard work, but I don't necessarily know if I've seen too many instances where he made plays that he had no business making. His size is going to be a little bit of a challenge for his style of play at the NHL level. As a top 10 pick, I'm less keen on him because I think there are some guys with offensive skillsets --- better shooters, playmakers, or an ability to change the pace of a game. As a potential very good support player, I think he's an excellent option outside the top 10.

Soderstrom: I find him intriguing because unlike a Byram, or even a Broberg, he's not necessarily a guy who makes you sit on the edge of your seat if he has the puck on his stick. But he's incredibly smart and makes so many of the plays. He knows how to move the puck, get it to the open made, and then get himself in position to support the play. In some ways, his strengths are almost the opposite of Broberg's. He transitions the puck well, can easily go back and forth between supporting the offense and playing tight defense. Not the biggest guy in the world, and can be outmuscled, but his positioning is so good that I'll be damned if he doesn't end up coming away with the puck more often than not. The knock might be that there's not that "wow" dream factor at work. He simply a smart, well-balanced game that doesn't lend itself to either a lot of mistakes, or a ton of highlight reel clips.

Nikolayev: I'm kind of torn on him. On the one hand, there are games where you see some top notch stickhandling and the ability to make the game look fairly easy. I've seen plays where there are several guys around him, he's got nowhere to go, and he ends up scoring a goal, after spinning around in a circle and getting through traffic. Other times you watch him go top shelf and the goalie looks like he has no idea where the puck came from. Amazingly deceptive shot that he gets off quickly and accurately. But then there are other times where I'm wondering where he is. For as talented as he is, there are times he looks...disengaged, for lack of a better term. And when he's not dazzling you with high-skill offense, there's sometimes not a hell of a lot else to see. I'd like to see him making better use of his linemates, or looking for the opportunities that might not necessarily be apparent on first glance. I could see him going anywhere from the teens to the second round. Personally, I'd consider him later in the first.
 
I was watching Keller and especially his skating in detail last night against Minnesota. Really tried to compare Zegras to him, and especially how they move.

The big concern I have with Zegras is that he is not elite at skating or carrying the puck, he is no Barzal. But I have to say that compared to Keller he isnt that far behind. Zegras is the best playmaker in the draft, if he can manage to get involved as much as Keller does he should do really well.

Maybe I am just afraid of us drafting Zegras and @Kovalev27 declaring him a bust after seing him not skate 8s around everyone after 5 minutes in Traverse. ;)
 
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So here's some brief thoughts on the kids you asked about:

Broberg: Excellent in the offensive zone --- very good shot, gets the puck on the net, not afraid to take chances. On the defensive side of things, he's shown a physical side and a willingness to engage, do in large part in his ability to cover a lot of ground. I'd like to see him work on his transition game a bit more. For example, there are times it appears that he's unsure of whether he's supporting the play, or hanging back a bit. Additionally, he can be rushed in the neutral zone or sometimes goes for the homerun pass across the ice, when something simpler will do. But the tools and natural skills are there --- the shot, the skating, the vision, etc. It's a matter of figuring out when and how to best utilize them.

Dach: Underrated playmaker who does an excellent job of finding the open teammate and getting the puck to them. I'd like to see him shoot a bit more, as I think he has a good enough wrist shot to put up more goals. Don't see the skating being an issue, mainly because his agility and maneuverability are strong. Carries the puck well into the zone and is hard to separate from the puck, especially when he's got a head of stream under him. Smart at the transition play and finding him open man, but not as strong as I'd like if the opposition forces the offense to slow things down a bit.

Knight: Love his ability to square himself to shooters, give them an opening to entice them and then take it away. Great lateral movement, but doesn't waste a lot of energy. Very efficient and doesn't give up rebounds easily. Doesn't get rattled. His glove his very good, but not what I'd consider great. He makes up for that with his positioning. He does tend to play a little smaller in net, despite his size, and I'm curious as to how he'll adjust as better shooters attempt to go higher on him. It'll also be interesting to see if he learns to play a little more as the competition speeds up.

Pelletier: A very smart hockey player, who doesn't necessarily have a lot of individual skills that leap off the ice. Good speed, not necessarily great --- slippery. Very good vision and play making, but does struggle a bit when he has less room to operate. I'm not entirely sure his shot will translate at the higher levels, but he is willing to get himself into high percentage areas, so that could help. I don't know if I see I enough dynamic offensive pieces to project his ceiling as a top line prospect, but I definitely think he's skilled enough, and aware enough of his own strengths, that he could project as a second line center.

Harley: Very good playmaking ability and a strong ability to make smart decisions with the puck on his tap. Incredibly patient and not afraid to wait for his teammates to find an opening and get into position. Doesn't panic with the puck, but I do wonder if his shot is enough to be a weapon should he need to get the puck through traffic and to the net. Has spent some time working on his defense, and while it's not a strength, I honestly don't think it's as much of a concern as it was a year ago. Could stand to make his life in the defensive zone a little easier by being more aggressive and using his reach to force opponents to the outside. I don't know if he quite has that skill set where he can step up and completely change the course of a game like a Byram, or a Broberg, or that he has steadying presence of a Soderstrom.

Krebs: Probably one of the better two-way forwards available in this year's draft. Always in motion, does a lot of the little things to keep plays alive and turn seemingly innocent plays into chances. But at the same time, I'm not sure he's one those guys who looks like they might drive play. He rates as good to very good across the board, but I don't know if the higher end skill is there like some of the options at the top of the draft. He's got a good shot, but I didn't quite see it used as a weapon as often as you'd think. His points come from a hard work, but I don't necessarily know if I've seen too many instances where he made plays that he had no business making. His size is going to be a little bit of a challenge for his style of play at the NHL level. As a top 10 pick, I'm less keen on him because I think there are some guys with offensive skillsets --- better shooters, playmakers, or an ability to change the pace of a game. As a potential very good support player, I think he's an excellent option outside the top 10.

Soderstrom: I find him intriguing because unlike a Byram, or even a Broberg, he's not necessarily a guy who makes you sit on the edge of your seat if he has the puck on his stick. But he's incredibly smart and makes so many of the plays. He knows how to move the puck, get it to the open made, and then get himself in position to support the play. In some ways, his strengths are almost the opposite of Broberg's. He transitions the puck well, can easily go back and forth between supporting the offense and playing tight defense. Not the biggest guy in the world, and can be outmuscled, but his positioning is so good that I'll be damned if he doesn't end up coming away with the puck more often than not. The knock might be that there's not that "wow" dream factor at work. He simply a smart, well-balanced game that doesn't lend itself to either a lot of mistakes, or a ton of highlight reel clips.

Nikolayev: I'm kind of torn on him. On the one hand, there are games where you see some top notch stickhandling and the ability to make the game look fairly easy. I've seen plays where there are several guys around him, he's got nowhere to go, and he ends up scoring a goal, after spinning around in a circle and getting through traffic. Other times you watch him go top shelf and the goalie looks like he has no idea where the puck came from. Amazingly deceptive shot that he gets off quickly and accurately. But then there are other times where I'm wondering where he is. For as talented as he is, there are times he looks...disengaged, for lack of a better term. And when he's not dazzling you with high-skill offense, there's sometimes not a hell of a lot else to see. I'd like to see him making better use of his linemates, or looking for the opportunities that might not necessarily be apparent on first glance. I could see him going anywhere from the teens to the second round. Personally, I'd consider him later in the first.
Is there an audio-book version available?
 
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Say after me: Turcotte, Turcotte, Turcotte, Turcotte, you don’t need to know anything else. ;)

I am no substitute for Edge, he does know a ton, but sometimes I wonder about some things. ;)

Hey, I'm always willing to chat about any prospect, and if I don't have the depth of knowledge, I'm not afraid to pass someone who might.

But it's somewhat impossible to talk about every kid at all times. Especially because most people aren't really going to give much thought to certain players unless they happen to be drafted by the Rangers.

I'll also acknowledge when my view isn't necessarily the more popular one. I've dropped Podkolzin a bit, but I have yet to talk to any professional who didn't have him at 3. So right there, we have a disconnect. Likewise, there might be times I have players higher --- Farabee, maybe Byram this year, etc.

The truth is that most posters want to talk about guys who excite them prior to the draft. So while I could say many positive things about about a kid like Korczak, or his brother, that conversation usually dies pretty quickly.
 
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Quinniapiac junior right handed defenseman Brogan Rafferty is considering NHL offers. He attended Rangers development camp last summer. Rafferty and Cornell senior Alec McCrae are the two free agent right handed defensemen still available.



Sources say Quinnipiac juniors Andrew Shortridge, Brogan Rafferty and Karlis Cukste are all currently considering their pro options. Shortridge and Rafferty have strong NHL interest as free agents; Cukste's rights owned by @SanJoseSharks
 
Rafferty signs with Vancouver.





Quinniapiac junior right handed defenseman Brogan Rafferty is considering NHL offers. He attended Rangers development camp last summer. Rafferty and Cornell senior Alec McCrae are the two free agent right handed defensemen still available.



Sources say Quinnipiac juniors Andrew Shortridge, Brogan Rafferty and Karlis Cukste are all currently considering their pro options. Shortridge and Rafferty have strong NHL interest as free agents; Cukste's rights owned by @SanJoseSharks
 
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