ElLeetch
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Speculation: Draft and UDFA Thread 2018-19: Part IX (No Kakko/Hughes Talk)
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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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The thing I like about Dorofeyev at 20 is that we can be as patient as we want with him. Let him stay in the KHL for ~3 years and come over fully developed.
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At this point, my top final 15 is more or less set. Podkolzin continues to slide for me, from third, to 8th by March, to 10th on my final.
Caufield climbed. Zegras climbed. Tomasino climbed, but I need to determine where.
Quite a few guys hovered around the same spots for me - Newhook, Dorofyev, Broberg, etc.
Some guys that have dropped on more recent lists, I dropped a few months back. Some guys that are now ranked higher were always ranked high for me. Others I am still iffy on.
Wish we were getting Seider (we've been saying it for a while now not just because of his recent play) but I would sign off on either Tomasino, Dorofeyev or Kaliyev. I know there are strong cases to be made for Heinola and Harley but if Seider is gone go forward. Since we lost our high second rounder I'm hoping we don't go too far off the board at 20.
Barnaby
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I would love to add Kakko along with with one of the centers, but Im starting to think people are really overrating our defensemen.
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mrmovies779
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Kakko,Newhook and York would be mine and a grand slam of a draft.
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Tomasino would be an awesome pick at 20- kid is a really aggressive, dynamic skater that knows how to hound pucks and use his speed to cut openings through defenses. I think his numbers are a bit inflated because he was playing on an offensive powerhouse, but he still earned a lot of his points and was a driving playmaker at 5v5. I wasn't a fan of how he got reduced to a 3rd line RW in the playoffs, but it's understandable considering the vets they had on their team and how they needed to try to load up against Oshawa.
The thing that always gets me is that he moves around like a little 5'9 waterbug, but he's actually already 6'0 180. He strikes me as a kid that can really take it to the next level if he hits adds muscle and makes himself harder to knock off pucks. He has really good hands and knows how to stickhandle the puck through traffic. I personally think he'll be like a Robert Thomas and will make teams wonder how the hell we let this kid fall into the 20s, and he's got a similar makeup too. Don't discount how he's a young birthday either.
The thing that always gets me is that he moves around like a little 5'9 waterbug, but he's actually already 6'0 180. He strikes me as a kid that can really take it to the next level if he hits adds muscle and makes himself harder to knock off pucks. He has really good hands and knows how to stickhandle the puck through traffic. I personally think he'll be like a Robert Thomas and will make teams wonder how the hell we let this kid fall into the 20s, and he's got a similar makeup too. Don't discount how he's a young birthday either.
UAGoalieGuy
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What I'd like to see is the Rangers move Kreider for a low teens pick an grab a falling forward. Then at 20 pick Seider.
Would be too big guys on the top pair potential or spread them out.
Miller - Seider
Or
Miller - Fox
Skjei - Seider
Would be too big guys on the top pair potential or spread them out.
Miller - Seider
Or
Miller - Fox
Skjei - Seider
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Tomasino is up there for me too, he is a younger draftee, his season improved as time went on, younger than his more productive teammates, his skating is really good and he has some size. I'm not sure his shot is quite on par with some other choices but he scored a good amount of goals, much of it from what I've seen through his deeks. Not sure if he turns out to be a center or wing, yet if not a big move up, Zegra, Newhook, etc, He and Dorofeyev are the two forwards I'd like to see them pick.
In my guess York and Broberg will be gone by like 14-16, and if it came down to Seider, Tomasino, Dorofeyev at #20 I'm picking Dorofeyev yet it pretty close to a tie for me between him and Seider and Tomasino. Yet to be honest there are several others there where I think any of them could be the best player out of that group in the future. Kaliyev, McMichael, Suzuki, Heinola, Brink, Lavoie, Robertson, and more. It's like one very big tier where it's more favorites than clear cut best player available where they all have some traits to like and some weaknesses too.
In my guess York and Broberg will be gone by like 14-16, and if it came down to Seider, Tomasino, Dorofeyev at #20 I'm picking Dorofeyev yet it pretty close to a tie for me between him and Seider and Tomasino. Yet to be honest there are several others there where I think any of them could be the best player out of that group in the future. Kaliyev, McMichael, Suzuki, Heinola, Brink, Lavoie, Robertson, and more. It's like one very big tier where it's more favorites than clear cut best player available where they all have some traits to like and some weaknesses too.
LaffyTaffy
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If Seider is gone then my goal immediately becomes to find a way to get Kolyachonok in the 2nd round. He is the best dman outside the 1st round imo.
Is York really a part of a dream draft? He is 5'11 and just not 'that' talented. Sure he got a boatload of pts, but he played on that PP with Hughes and Caufield. I just don't see that he is worth it.
I'll go one step further and say that an optimal and somewhat realistic scenario is for the Rangers to walk away with three top-20 selections of kids they really, really want while possibly not picking again until the third round.
Kreider for a pick in the teens. Then package the newly acquired selection with one of their 2nds to move up. Then package 20 with the remaining 2nd and move up from there.
3 targeted, highly talented prospects on top of the excellent base they've built up since the 2017 draft. Then add a cherry on top in 2020 with two another high pick and possibly the Dallas selection as well.
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Regardless of my personal opinion on the matter (I'm in favor of such an approach), I believe the Rangers would have absolutely no problem going down that path.
Putting aside for a second the moves it would require, who is a realistic trade partner, etc., I think the Rangers have identified specific talents in this draft they would like to come away with.
Whether that's trading into the top 10 and making life easier on themselves, or catching a guy falling outside that range, I think they want guys they view as having the potential to make an impact on their roster sooner rather than later, and they're not as interested in amassing depth of picks.
If the cost to pick 10th and 17th ends up being Kreider, Pionk, 14, 20, 49 and 58, and there's a path to make that happen, I believe they pull the trigger. If they can pull that off and still pick in the second, of course they would. But I honestly don't think they'd have a problem trading out of the second, or even the third.
I think they'd be very happy viewing their 2019 draft assets returning Kakko, a player they originally liked in their pre-lottery draft slot, a big swing kind of pick, and Fox. Be that Kakko/Zegras/York/Fox, be that Kakko/Newhook/Seider/Fox, or whatever, I think they've always wanted to go big in this draft if they can make it work.
Factor in the potential for two picks next year, and possibly Panarin (everyone know my views there) and I think you're looking at the kind of aggressive that Gorton and company are gunning for.
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Beecher impressing at USA Hockey's NTDP, improving 2019 Draft stock Any have a liking for this guy? A good pick at 58?
He's been one of my choices in the second round for a while. Would love to add him there. Korzcak and Beecher would be a fantastic haul in addition to Kakko and whomever they take at 20.
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Still think he lasts into the second
I also like Poulin in the second, but he may go early second. And the Rangers do not really pick from the Q so the point may be moot.
Matz03
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Nathan Legare, Alex Beaucage, Jamieson Rees could all still be available in the second. Korczak probably goes earlier in the second but Ryan Siedem could be a nice pick up in the third round.
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