Dom Luszczyszyn apologizes after agreeing to appear on podcast with Tony DeAngelo

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To an extent, his tweets about COVID are, because you kind of have to contextualize where they're coming from.

By and large, it's not tho. The team that most famously fired DeAngelo just held a Trump rally at their arena. He had some other problems going on.
Agreed but I was referring to the ideological differences in those who would bow to the external pressure and make an apology and those who would go on the podcast, Actually I shouldn't paint all said ideology because there are some like Destiny (who I vehemently disagree with) who do have the stones to go on a problematic podcast. I may disagree with guys like that but I respect their stones to go through with it.
 

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And then he punched Georgiev after playing poorly and saying something to him? Avs fans would probably buy out his jersey if that happened today
Rangers fans were saying at the time that the biggest problem was Georgiyev and how he reacted. DeAngelo was on his last warning with management I guess for other reasons, but the guy who should've been condemned for this instance was the player who couldn't take a ribbing from a teammate and resorted to attacking him.
 

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TDA is scummy, but why can't you get on a podcast with him and talk puck? I'm not familiar with the podcast--I can honestly say in my entire life I have not listened to a single podcast, ever--so if it's something more than hockey, maybe I'd get it. But if it's a legitimate hockey podcast just stop being a little bitch (Dom, not Tony) and do the thing.

I hate both of these guys, honestly.
It’s Pete Blackburn’s podcast
 
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They had these exchanges over Twitter over the weekend, apparently Dom had no issue associating with him then. Then sometime between all that they agreed to go on a podcast together, then Dom releases this shortly after that comes out





Tony was pretty friendly here. A little good natured jab at him. Dom took that too far to the point he was being flat out rude for no reason.
 

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AFAIK he just failed as a hockey player. I didn’t pick up on anything more than that, but admittedly I didn’t follow TDA or the Flyers that closely.



To your own point, nobody’s suggesting Dom is legally obligated to appear on any podcast. Seems like a rebuttal to an argument that wasn’t made.

It’s fully in-bounds to suggest Dom’s personal actions are aimed at preventing any sort of public discourse involving TDA. On a private level that does seem contrary to the underlying principles behind free speech (the “marketplace of ideas”). It’s an illustration of how a small-l liberal can inadvertently run counter to the capital-L liberalism which is the bedrock of the system which protects free speech in the first place.

That, in a nutshell, is why so many vocal liberals are grossed out by Dom’s eagerness to please the mob rather than just talking to a guy about a hockey disagreement.


In philly I know he did a few things on the ice that really pissed of the team
 
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Freedom of the press is another governmental principle that has nothing to do with this. Would I be restricting the freedom of the press by not agreeing to be interviewed by the NYT, no matter what my reasons are? Of course not.

Same with this guy and TDA’s podcast. He’s not infringing on TDA’s right to say what he wants, he’s merely choosing to not be an active participant in those statements.

Sure, if you want to be pedantic about it.

I was referring more to the increasing trend across a number of formerly respected institutions towards the labelling of objectionable ideas as either "hate speech" or "unpatriotic" and refusing to allow or engage in any kind of fulsome debate or discussion as a result.

Whatever you want to call that, that's what I'm talking about.

When I see students on academic campuses demanding that certain people not even be allowed on campus, I find it shocking. Not because they have strong opinions, but because they are so afraid of the opinions of others.

Show up, listen, and then explain to them why they are wrong. That's fundamental to the practice of academic discourse.
 
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Agreed but I was referring to the ideological differences in those who would bow to the external pressure and make an apology and those who would go on the podcast, Actually I shouldn't paint all said ideology because there are some like Destiny (who I vehemently disagree with) who do have the stones to go on a problematic podcast. I may disagree with guys like that but I respect their stones to go through with it.
I looked through some of the replies to Dom.
He's been pretty outspoken about DeAngelo using slurs, denying COVID, and not deserving any more chances (his words).

Then he turns around and agrees to be on a podcast with him, so people were like "but Dom, didn't you say this? And now when you have a chance to platform yourself, you're going back on what you said." Which is a pretty valid criticism, actually. Hardly the cancel mob it's being made out to be.

Dom then doubled down on being feckless by flip-flopping again.
 
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To your own point, nobody’s suggesting Dom is legally obligated to appear on any podcast. Seems like a rebuttal to an argument that wasn’t made.

It’s fully in-bounds to suggest Dom’s personal actions are aimed at preventing any sort of public discourse involving TDA. On a private level that does seem contrary to the underlying principles behind free speech (the “marketplace of ideas”). It’s an illustration of how a small-l liberal can inadvertently run counter to the capital-L liberalism which is the bedrock of the system which protects free speech in the first place.

That, in a nutshell, is why so many vocal liberals are grossed out by Dom’s eagerness to please the mob rather than just talking to a guy about a hockey disagreement.

Thank you.
 

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Imagine the horror of having to spend a hour in a room with someone who doesn’t hold all the same opinions you do.

Dom’s a snowflake. What is this world coming to?
 
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I looked through some of the replies to Dom.
He's been pretty outspoken about DeAngelo using slurs, denying COVID, and not deserving any more chances (his words).

Then he turns around and agrees to be on a podcast with him, so people were like "but Dom, didn't you say this? And now when you have a chance to platform yourself, you're going back on what you said." Which is a pretty valid criticism, actually. Hardly the cancel mob it's being made out to be.

Dom then doubled down on being feckless by flip-flopping again.
I think if he flip-flops 1 more time he gets a free coffee at the DC Starbucks lol
 

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The slur he used (to a former teammate) could have been deemed sexist, homophobic or racist, so to say he admitted to using a racist slur is, to my knowledge, untruthful.

The rest is just somebody having opinions/habits that you might find unlikeable.

IIRC it later leaked through teammates that it was a slur for an Italian. Which is… not what people (including myself) were assuming when the story originally broke.

Then his dad from Philly gave that interview where he was like “yeah, we said that word every day growing up. So what?” and people (including me) were in full jaw-drop mode at what looked like something very different.

Here in 2024, we’ve seen a suspension under that same policy when someone got called a Mennonite, which seems to lend credibility to the notion that the whole “Tony D’s a racist” thing might have been just a little overblown at the time and certainly in subsequent years when that narrative dovetailed with his Trump support.
 

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Dom’s a snowflake.

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Sure, if you want to be pedantic about it.

I was referring more to the increasing trend across a number of formerly respected institutions towards the labelling of objectionable ideas as either "hate speech" or "unpatriotic" and refusing to allow or engage in any kind of fulsome debate or discussion as a result.

Whatever you want to call that, that's what I'm talking about.

When I see students on academic campuses demanding that certain people not even be allowed on campus, find it shocking. Not because they have strong opinions, but because they are so afraid of the opinions of others.

Show up, listen, and then explain to them why they are wrong. That's fundamental to the practice of academic discourse.
It is sad that there is a subset of our population that seems to believe whoever claims “hate” first wins. I hope they all find their safe pace.
 

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