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  • Chris Kreider

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  • Adam Fux

  • Jacob Tuba

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  • Mika Zibanejad

  • Alexis Lafreniere

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I've never seen a team blow so many chances without getting a shot off.

P.S. if a flubbed chance doesn't get a shot off, would the analytics nerds know about it? or if a shot hits a post, would an analytics nerd hear it?
 
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bobbop said:
I think he has a chemistry with Fox where he sets himself for the tip and Fox finds him. Adam doesn’t have the hardest shot but he is accurate and so smart.
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Fox is a like a good QB going through his reads. And he knows the strengths of his teammates well. Always finds Panarin/Kreider/Mika in the right spot
 
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duhmetreE said:
I've never seen a team blow so many chances without getting a shot off.

P.S. if a flubbed chance doesn't get a shot off, would the analytics nerds know about it? or if a shot hits a post, would an analytics nerd hear it?
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I think Trouba is on to something. He wasn't interested in passing last night. He was just carpet bombing shots. Let's hope it's a trend.
 
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tlk said:
And Buch. And Fast. And maybe even Hayes (would you deem Strome an upgrade in hindsight?)
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You're missing the integral part, Zuccarello. What a beast. 36 points in 31 games for him, 2nd in Minnesota this season. I think NYR could've saved $5.5m keeping Zuccarello without signing Panarin and kept Buchnevich. But I think Panarin is great, so it's kind of controversial.

But really, I think Zuccarello + Buchnevich is more bang for the buck than only Panarin. We could've had Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich and Zuccarello - Strome - Goodrow/ Laf/ Kakko/ Blais/ whoever is hot.

That looks really solid to me.
 
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DanielBrassard said:
Insane goaltending and elite PP will help do that. At 5v5 this team is literally break even in goals, 77F-77A. That's with a top 8 PDO in the league.
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We're only 8th on the PP, and our elite goalie has played less than 2/3rds of our games this season. Not to mention the crazy disproportionate amount of road games so far.

NYR are 12-3-2 at home so far.
 
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duhmetreE said:
I've never seen a team blow so many chances without getting a shot off.

P.S. if a flubbed chance doesn't get a shot off, would the analytics nerds know about it? or if a shot hits a post, would an analytics nerd hear it?
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Is that a question similar to...."if a tree falls in a forest, does it make a noise?"
 
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rangersfansince08 said:
xG were 2.84-1.53 in the Coyotes favor. Analytics are dumb.
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Explain why it's dumb, though.

I mean, you saw the game. Before Kreider scored to make it 3-2, we literally had six shots. How late into the game was that?

Absolutely nobody should look at the xG from that game and be surprised. The Coyotes were running practice drills for 30 minutes of that game and it was apparent just from viewing.
 
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Fitzy said:
We're only 8th on the PP, and our elite goalie has played less than 2/3rds of our games this season. Not to mention the crazy disproportionate amount of road games so far.

NYR are 12-3-2 at home so far.
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The Rangers are 1st in the league in sv% in all situations even with Shesterkin only playing 60% of the games. PP is still elite and so is the PK, but that's due mostly to goaltending as well. They are a better team on home ice, but still pretty poor 5v5.
 
Machinehead said:
Explain why it's dumb, though.

I mean, you saw the game. Before Kreider scored to make it 3-2, we literally had six shots. How late into the game was that?

Absolutely nobody should look at the xG from that game and be surprised. The Coyotes were running practice drills for 30 minutes of that game and it was apparent just from viewing.
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I'm not saying that xG was wrong, but who cares when looking at the full 60 minutes that they had 6 shots in the first 25-30 minutes? They ended the game within 2 shots of the Coyotes, so they outshot them the rest of the way. This was not a great game but your argument is bizarre.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
I'm not saying that xG was wrong, but who cares when looking at the full 60 minutes that they had 6 shots in the first 25-30 minutes? They ended the game within 2 shots of the Coyotes, so they outshot them the rest of the way. This was not a great game but your argument is bizarre.
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My argument that it's bad to not play half the game is bizarre?
 
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Machinehead said:
My argument that it's bad to not play half the game is bizarre?
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Your argument that they were outshot half the game and that's why the xG differential is bad is bizarre because the xG differential covers the entire game and over the entire game shots were almost even (I believe 29-27).
 
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Your argument that they were outshot half the game and that's why the xG differential is bad is bizarre because the xG differential covers the entire game and over the entire game shots were almost even (I believe 29-27).
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Right xG differential covers the entire game and we got bodied in the game. Over 60 minutes, they doubled us up in xG. I literally don't know what point you're trying to make.

Should we award the Coyotes a 3-1 win because six of our goals came in a small window?
 
Machinehead said:
Right xG differential covers the entire game and we got bodied in the game. Over 60 minutes, they doubled us up in xG. I literally don't know what point you're trying to make.

Should we award the Coyotes a 3-1 win because six of our goals came in a small window?
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The point I'm making is you bring up shots for half the game as a reason why xG over an entire game favored. If you're going by shots, xG should be pretty even because over the whole game the shots were even.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
The point I'm making is you bring up shots for half the game as a reason why xG over an entire game favored. If you're going by shots, xG should be pretty even because over the whole game the shots were even.
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That's not how xG works and you know that's not how it works.

I was using shots as an example to illustrate a point to those who may not be familiar with the stat or are (more likely imo) willfully ignoring it.

Let's get real here, that the Rangers got badly outplayed last night is one of the most frozen ass cold takes I've ever had. You said yourself in last night's GDT how bad they were playing and this feels like an argument for the sake of having one.
 
Machinehead said:
That's not how xG works and you know that's not how it works.

I was using shots as an example to illustrate a point to those who may not be familiar with the stat or are (more likely imo) willfully ignoring it.

Let's get real here, that the Rangers got badly outplayed last night is one of the most frozen ass cold takes I've ever had. You said yourself in last night's GDT how bad they were playing and this feels like an argument for the sake of having one.
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I'm not making an argument for the sake of argument. They were brutal last night, especially before that shorthanded goal but your reasoning for why the xG was bad was flawed. xG is not strictly a shots on goal metric, but you used shots on goal and not only shots on goal, shots on goal the first half of the game to explain why our xG sucked. I'm down on the team right now because I'm really tired of them not showing up and just getting dominating for long stretches I was just criticizing that one bit of logic you were using.
 
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