Dobson Trade?

[icelander25]

I’m an Islander fan coming in peace to see if there’s a realistic trade for Dobson. Would Eklund or Smith be available in a trade for him. I know you guys could use a stud young RHD and you’ll probably draft a forward to replace whoever you trade anyways. If not, no harm no foul and we’ll all just move on

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[coooldude]

We've been talking about Dobson a fair bit, but I think any prospect/young core trade starts below the Eklund/Smith line. Some of our fanbase would be fine with Dickinson as the centerpiece and probably some would not. More would probably be fine with Musty + the DAL 1st we just got as the centerpiece.

There's been some discussion as to whether Dobson is good enough defensively / right attitude to add to the core that Grier is trying to build. Hopefully this is a fun discussion, I'm interested to see where it leads.

 

[Jargon]

I’m an Islander fan coming in peace to see if there’s a realistic trade for Dobson. Would Eklund or Smith be available in a trade for him. I know you guys could use a stud young RHD and you’ll probably draft a forward to replace whoever you trade anyways. If not, no harm no foul and we’ll all just move on

I’d be interested but definitely not for Smith and probably not for Eklund. I’d be open to considering the Dallas 1st + maybe Haltunnen or Bystedt…

I like the idea of Dobson but from what I understand his defense is pretty bad and while a Dobson - Dickinson pair sounds kind of awesome for the future, I’m not sure he’s exactly the guy I’d be targeting right now? Maybe! Just yeah, not at the price of one of our big future pieces.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I’m an Islander fan coming in peace to see if there’s a realistic trade for Dobson. Would Eklund or Smith be available in a trade for him. I know you guys could use a stud young RHD and you’ll probably draft a forward to replace whoever you trade anyways. If not, no harm no foul and we’ll all just move on

Absolutely not, sorry.

There is a world where a Dobson to the Sharks trade can be finagled, but the moment Lou says "Smith" or "Eklund", the call ends.

 

[icelander25]

I’d be interested but definitely not for Smith and probably not for Eklund. I’d be open to considering the Dallas 1st + maybe Haltunnen or Bystedt…

I like the idea of Dobson but from what I understand his defense is pretty bad and while a Dobson - Dickinson pair sounds kind of awesome for the future, I’m not sure he’s exactly the guy I’d be targeting right now? Maybe! Just yeah, not at the price of one of our big future pieces.

Yea understandable, I probably wouldn’t do Dobson for that package but I guess you could add Dickinson to the group that ‘d trade him for as the guy above said. The main idea was to trade for a young nhler similar to Dobson cause we’re in no rush to trade him. I think for Dobson it’s necessary for there to be a top end quality piece, which is obviously not gonna be you’re first, so it’s gotta be a top prospect and personally I’d only take those 3 as the main piece.
As far as Dobson’s defense, he definitely has his moments of stupidity, but almost all the analytics say he’s both our best offensive and defensive defenseman. Now I wouldn’t go that far at all but I wouldn’t say he’s a liability, he’s probably a net even on defense with a huge offensive ceiling.

 

[Hodge]

Absolutely not, sorry.

There is a world where a Dobson to the Sharks trade can be finagled, but the moment Lou says "Smith" or "Eklund", the call ends.

I dunno...Eklund is only about 2.5 years younger than Dobson and is just about the easiest type of player to acquire on the open market (non-elite small skilled winger) while Dobson is the most rare.

It depends on the other pieces involved and whether Dobson would immediately sign a max term extension with the Sharks but Eklund should be in play for a trade like this. Let's say we draft Hagens with our 1st and trade the Dallas 1st, Eklund and Mukhamadullin for Dobson. Aren't we coming out ahead?

 

[Dicdonya]

Yea understandable, I probably wouldn’t do Dobson for that package but I guess you could add Dickinson to the group that ‘d trade him for as the guy above said. The main idea was to trade for a young nhler similar to Dobson cause we’re in no rush to trade him. I think for Dobson it’s necessary for there to be a top end quality piece, which is obviously not gonna be you’re first, so it’s gotta be a top prospect and personally I’d only take those 3 as the main piece.
As far as Dobson’s defense, he definitely has his moments of stupidity, but almost all the analytics say he’s both our best offensive and defensive defenseman. Now I wouldn’t go that far at all but I wouldn’t say he’s a liability, he’s probably a net even on defense with a huge offensive ceiling.

Yeah probably just bad timing to do a trade for Dobson really, if we were a little further into the rebuild and thought we had some prospects to replace a contributing member of the team like Eklund I think it would be doable, but right now he is just too important to the team, and our prospects not in the NHL have not proven to be ready to replace a guy like Eklund.

 

[ChompChomp]

We've been talking about Dobson a fair bit, but I think any prospect/young core trade starts below the Eklund/Smith line. Some of our fanbase would be fine with Dickinson as the centerpiece and probably some would not. More would probably be fine with Musty + the DAL 1st we just got as the centerpiece.

There's been some discussion as to whether Dobson is good enough defensively / right attitude to add to the core that Grier is trying to build. Hopefully this is a fun discussion, I'm interested to see where it leads.

Came here to say the same thing: Musty and the Dallas first makes sense.

Dobson needs to improve defensively, but I trust the same coach who turned around Gustav Forsling to turn around Noah Dobson. (Warsofsky)

 

[Celly4Celebrini]

Musty is probably the highest ranked prospect id do, but wouldnt be opposed to adding a 2nd top 10 guy as well as the DAL 1.

now if we get to the draft lottery and we get Misa as we lose on Schaefer, then i do think a package around Eklund might be more likely. but the add would be substantially less.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I dunno...Eklund is only about 2.5 years younger than Dobson and is just about the easiest type of player to acquire on the open market (non-elite small skilled winger) while Dobson is the most rare.

It depends on the other pieces involved and whether Dobson would immediately sign a max term extension with the Sharks but Eklund should be in play for a trade like this. Let's say we draft Hagens with our 1st and trade the Dallas 1st, Eklund and Mukhamadullin for Dobson. Aren't we coming out ahead?

I think Eklund is a better player outright than Dobson at this point and he won't command the contract that Dobson will.

I just think that Dobson is acquirable without a core piece like Eklund given his contract status and the fact that the Isles have frankly been better since he got injured and hasn't been in the lineup.

 

[weastern bias]

A realistic deal probably looks like:

Dobson
Late round pick (like a 5th)

for

Dallas 1st
Mukhamadullin
Musty
Conditional 4th (3rd if Dobson re-signes)

I'd do it, I don't know if the Islanders would, they probably don't want a package so focus on futures

 

[Skeksis25]

I think it depends on how the lottery goes for us I think. If we can draft Schafer, I wouldn't want to trade Eklund because you would like to think that with Schafer, Dickinson and Mukh, we at least have 2 future top 4 D-men. If we end up with Misa/Hagens/Martone, then I think Eklund becomes more expendable and we are more desperate for D help.

 

[icelander25]

I think Eklund is a better player outright than Dobson at this point and he won't command the contract that Dobson will.

I just think that Dobson is acquirable without a core piece like Eklund given his contract status and the fact that the Isles have frankly been better since he got injured and hasn't been in the lineup.

Ngl that’s kinda outrageous but we all got our own views. The only thing that could make me sway is the contract situation but Eklund will get paid next year anyways. As someone said before take away the player, the pure archetype of Dobson is much much more valuable than Eklund, and I’d still say he’s the same if not a better player.
As far as a deal around Musty, I wouldn’t do it so we’d probably move to another team. Was thinking something around McTavish + Luneau for Dobson, but we’ll see.

Anyways, solid information. Thanks for a solid respectable convo.