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Do you support a coaching change?

Do you support a coaching change?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 14.5%

  • No

    Votes: 118 85.5%
  • Total voters
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Perfect_Drug said:
I think the PP is stale because they're saving 'set' plays for the playoffs.

One of the most creative PP in history doesnt ever seem to care about innovations suddenly one year? I think they're keeping shit in the bag.
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PP is saving their best plays.

McDavid saving himself for the playoffs.

Have heard it all year.

Hopefully Skinner is waiting for the playoffs to start making saves. Just wants to lure the opposition into thinking they will score easily.
 
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No, the problem with the Oilers isn't coaching. It's roster. Our bottom 6 forwards are nonfunctional and we had some absolutely terrible defensemen like Stecher and Klingberg as lineup regulars prior to the Walman trade. He frequently outcoaches the opponent anyway with an inferior roster and we win the possession/shot metrics battle, but then we get Skinnerd or Pickarded anyway. Roster was problematic last year too and he got us to within 1 game of the Cup, but now it's even worse.
 
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Perfect_Drug said:
I think the PP is stale because they're saving 'set' plays for the playoffs.

One of the most creative PP in history doesnt ever seem to care about innovations suddenly one year? I think they're keeping shit in the bag.
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I think its as much a matter of NHL correction and clamping down on our sets. The team hasn't held that much back I don't think with Drai's Rocket Richard heater going on again.

Wouldn't make too much sense not to score all they can on PP and close out games rather than players having to go balls to the wall in getting regular season results. Plus that this club for months rarely wins in regulation. I don't think they'd be holding back much. They've needed bullets.

 
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5 Mins 4 Ftg said:
Fire Schwartz first. Get an actual proven NHL starter second.

Then play 1 full season and see what happens.
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Fire Schwartz and Bowman, put Jackson directly on the hot seat …. Most of the time GM’s/ POHO’s get to fire at least 1 coach before they themselves get shitcanned. This absolutely should not apply in this scenario. Knoblauch can be fired some day sure, but NOT before these stuffed shirts.
 
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alphahelix said:
Fire Schwartz and Bowman, put Jackson directly on the hot seat …. Most of the time GM’s/ POHO’s get to fire at least 1 coach before they themselves get shitcanned. This absolutely should not apply in this scenario. Knoblauch can be fired some day sure, but NOT before these stuffed shirts.
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Jackson should never be given another chance after the way he bungled the off season and made us vulnerable to offer sheets. They knew Holland was retiring at the end of the season, so they should have had someone picked out and in place the moment the season ended and hit the ground running. I'd fire Jackson first in a heartbeat. To hell with his connection with McDavid.
 
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I voted yes, but I don’t think we should. I think the shine is off of him and we are seeing his flaws which there are many.
That said, a coaching change won’t fix the teams issues.
 
CantHaveTkachev said:
don't worry guys, the next coach will DEFINITELY be the right hire...just like McLellan, Hitchcock, Tippett, Woodcroft and Knoblauch were
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The Lightning have kept the same coach despite suffering one of the most embarrassing playoff losses in NHL history. They won the Cup the next two years when they could've easily fired him for repeated playoff failures.

I wouldn't trust the geniuses behind the terrible offseason/trade deadline that we had to hire a coach that has his finger on the pulse of the current game. I've seen a lot of calls for Joel Quennville and while he certainly was a big hand in the Blackhawks success, I don't think the Panthers win the Cup last year if he was the coach.

I'm all for organizational changes but canning yet another coach is not only lazy but will discourage coaches from wanting to be hired here if they know they're not going to last more than 2 years.
 
Coaching is part of the issue. Not the whole issue. Players aren’t being utilized where they can best help the team, lines are shifted pretty much every game so how does a group get cohesion? The league is on to our “corsi at all cost” systems and nothing gets changed or adapted. Double standards on discipline, if you’re part of the core, you can make the same mistakes over and over with no repercussions. Bring up a young player and he’s given the quickest of looks and sent down. And there no competitive fire, visible push of more effort or hint of physicality. The roster may be soft but so is coaching.
 
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And it comes down to Katz made the wrong call again. Hiring Jackson set the whole wrong tone for the organization and bringing in Bowman doubled down.

That said, IMO Bowman hasn’t had a chance to put his stamp on this group, hamstrung with Jackson’s summer mistakes and offer sheet malpractice. Would like to see him hire a new coach and get a summer with some cap to see if he can turn things around.
 
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russ99 said:
And it comes down to Katz made the wrong call again. Hiring Jackson set the whole wrong tone for the organization and bringing in Bowman doubled down.

That said, IMO Bowman hasn’t had a chance to put his stamp on this group, hamstrung with Jackson’s summer mistakes and offer sheet malpractice. Would like to see him hire a new coach and get a summer with some cap to see if he can turn things around.
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Bowman deserved 100% of the blame on the Klingberg signing and Frederic trade...2 brutal moves
 
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MessierII said:
If those are your bad moves that’s not that bad. Klingberg cost the team nothing. Frederic could still have a huge impact in the playoffs which is what you got him for.
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Klingberg cost valuable cap space
you don't trade a 2nd and 4th for a guy who may or may not be effective in the playoffs...that's poor asset management
they need players to help them NOW
 
Knobby is showing his warts but I’m at the point where it’s a roster issue before a coaching issue.

Not something easily fixed, especially with the ass clowns responsible for drafting and development and pro scouting.
 
CantHaveTkachev said:
Klingberg cost valuable cap space
you don't trade a 2nd and 4th for a guy who may or may not be effective in the playoffs...that's poor asset management
they need players to help them NOW
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Not really no. Klingbergs contracts can be buried outside of a few hundred K. This seasons success or failure is determined in the playoffs not right now. If Frederic can’t go in the playoffs I would agree with you but that chapter isn’t written yet.
 
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MessierII said:
Not really no. Klingbergs contracts can be buried outside of a few hundred K.
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that doesn't excuse a poor move, and still makes it a bad acquisition

MessierII said:
This seasons success or failure is determined in the playoffs not right now. If Frederic can’t go in the playoffs I would agree with you but that chapter isn’t written yet.
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sure but first off, they haven't clinched anything yet...second, why not make it easier for themselves? home-ice is there for the taking
 
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