Do you like this team?

[zeke]

What if they made it to the finals only to have to play Boston?

we got boston this year. they're not nearly the team they were even last year. their dcorps is shredded and their centers are only getting older.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

So either we make the Stanley cup finals, or the season's a bust?

Ok, bye. See you in a month. Rest of us will be here enjoying a great team, and the fact that we don't have to read your negative posts.

Pretty much yeah, and that's what it f***ing SHOULD be, in fact the expectation should be cup or bust, I'm not suggesting that if they don't win the cup everybody gets fired that wouldn't happen if they lost in the finals obviously.

But this team could be 1st overall in the entire NHL by the end of tomorrow at least in terms of points depending on what happens tonight.

When you are a top 3 team in the league and right now they are, and you have as much talent as the Leafs do, and they are playing as well as they are, there comes a point when yeah it is cup or bust and the team is playing yeah it's cup or bust

 

[Gary Nylund]

so you are posting here every day of the regular season even though you don't give a flying f*** about anything other than the cup finals.

Learn how to read. I didn't say I don't give a flying f*** about anything other than the cup finals, I said I don't give a flying f*** about point pace after 39 games.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Pretty much yeah, and that's what it f***ing SHOULD be, in fact the expectation should be cup or bust

I get that, as a fan, you want to see your team win, but a fan should also be able to enjoy the ride and acknowledge an amazing season, even if we don't end up winning it all. A lot of things impact playoff end results, and I don't know how somebody can think that none of this matters and berate another fan for enjoying something we rarely get to see. If he doesn't care, he can keep it to himself, and let the rest of us actually be fans.

 

[zeke]

Learn how to read. I didn't say I don't give a flying f*** about anything other than the cup finals, I said I don't give a flying f*** about point pace after 39 games.

but all year you've said that wins/points are all that matters to you and that looking at anything else was foolish.

 

[zeke]

I get that, as a fan, you want to see your team win, but a fan should also be able to enjoy the ride and acknowledge an amazing season, even if we don't end up winning it all. A lot of things impact playoff end results, and I don't know how somebody can think that none of this matters and berate another fan for enjoying something we rarely get to see. If he doesn't care, he can keep it to himself, and let the rest of us actually be fans.

it is pretty amazing how many leaf fans are adamant that we shouldn't enjoy watching our team.

 

[Auston Escobar]

it is pretty amazing how many leaf fans are adamant that we shouldn't enjoy watching our team.

Having the attitude a lot of these posters have seems exhausting. I was pretty negative and critical of management during the bad old JFJ/Burke years, but now it's fun as hell. It baffles me that people still hate when we have a team this good and this fun to watch.

 

[zeke]

Having the attitude a lot of these posters have seems exhausting. I was pretty negative and critical of management during the bad old JFJ/Burke years, but now it's fun as hell. It baffles me that people still hate when we have a team this good and this fun to watch.

I mean, being critical of the team when it's bad makes sense.

 

[Twine Tickler]

this is the most enjoyable team to watch since the early 1999 to 2002 team. They compete most nights, have more skill than ever before, and seldom show that poopy daiper face when the game doesn't go their way. Something that has been the case in years past. Last night was a great example. up 2-0, brutal non call that directly leads to a goal against, and gives Calgary life. They eventually tie that game, and 9/10 times in years past they lose by 2. but they battled, and gave up the lead on 2 separate occasions, but still managed to get the 2 pts. This has happened more than once this year and is a true sign of this core maturing. I love watching this team

 

[fahad203]

No. Not really.

I still think this team is too soft. I don't mean drop the gloves, fight and hit everyone. I mean subtle pushback

Summonds not enough of a good skater to create havoc and very limited to how much he can play and contribute

Really like Bogo. Mikaeyev is softer than Kapanen

Every year this team gets points. Looks good. Then the playoff comes along and we get sidetracked by other physically element

We don't go into dirty areas, we don't bother their goalies enough, we don't derail them of mentum or put our foot down. That's the toughness I am talking about

I'm still not seeing it. I really like Brodie and Bogo

Nylander is such a moody player and I am still not convinced Sheldon Keefe is a good coach

Our PP last night was trash again. He just doesn't want to adapt.

 

[Gary Nylund]

but all year you've said that wins/points are all that matters to you and that looking at anything else was foolish.

Eh, there you go making shit up again. Don't you get tired of lying?

You're obviously distorting something I said which was probably in response to some fancy stats that you posted to show how awesome we are. Yes winning is more important then numbers on a spreadsheet, if that bothers you then get over it. And good luck finding any post of mine where I said looking at anything else was foolish, I look at other stuff all the time.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I get that, as a fan, you want to see your team win, but a fan should also be able to enjoy the ride and acknowledge an amazing season, even if we don't end up winning it all. A lot of things impact playoff end results, and I don't know how somebody can think that none of this matters and berate another fan for enjoying something we rarely get to see. If he doesn't care, he can keep it to himself, and let the rest of us actually be fans.

As I said in another part of my qoute, which tells me you didn't read the whole thing, depending on what happens tonight this team could be 1st overall in the entire NHL by tomorrow. There comes a point where a 1st or 2nd round exit simply isn't good enough anymore, the Leafs are at that point.

The Leafs could NOTHING at the deadline and I would still say they should get through the North because they are better than the Habs, Oilers, and Jets.

If they add a couple pieces, which I expect them to, then the ONLY team I'd fear is Tampa.

If they go down in round 1 again You're damn right it's a failure look at this roster, more is expected

 

[zeke]

Eh, there you go making shit up again. Don't you get tired of lying?

You're obviously distorting something I said which was probably in response to some fancy stats that you posted to show how awesome we are. Yes winning is more important then numbers on a spreadsheet, if that bothers you then get over it. And good luck finding any post of mine where I said looking at anything else was foolish, I look at other stuff all the time.

Hope you're enjoying the season, Gary.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Hope you're enjoying the season, Gary.

If your sarcastic comments about people not enjoying are directed at me, then your reading abilities have let you down once again.

There's lots to enjoy so far, no doubt about it. My only concern right now is our goalie situation but assuming we have someone better than Hutch in net for the playoffs, I do believe we have an excellent chance of winning one playoff round (finally) at the very least. I also believe this team has such enormous potential that anything less then making the semi-finals would be a disappointment. Again, that is of course if our goalie situation is resolved, if we're playing Hutch in the playoffs we could just as easily go out in the 1st round.

If (and that's a big if) we get good goaltending, I think we should be the favourites to win the 1st round, then favoured again in the 2nd round and after that, we'll see. But if we fail again in the playoffs, that would a HUGE disappointment, one that even finishing 1st overall would not make up for.

 

[paulhiggins]

I disagree with you and maybe because of your limited scope.

But I have to ask:

How was it that Bozak was considered "high priced"? You realize he won a cup with STL?

I grouped him into "lack of intensity of the high priced help (ie. Kessel, Bozak, etc.)" category because over his last Leaf contract Bozak was one of the highest paid players on the team, always in the top 10 or higher. Here's an example:
Toronto Maple Leafs 2015-16 - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
Although I suggested he was not intense, I never suggested he was overpaid if that's what you're reading into it and I don't care what he won in St Louis.

 

[RealisticLeaf55]

I am absolutely all in on this team and its core.

 

[Dekes For Days]

As I said in another part of my qoute, which tells me you didn't read the whole thing, depending on what happens tonight this team could be 1st overall in the entire NHL by tomorrow.

I read the whole post. We are not 1st overall in the NHL. We are currently 6th. While we have a great team with the potential to go all the way, only 4 teams make it past the 2nd round (and only 2 into the SCF - apparently the only way to have a successful season ), and a lot can factor in beyond the quality of a team. We're currently witnessing an amazing Leaf team, and the best one in decades. Not sure how a fan could do anything right now, other than enjoy the ride.

 

[Stinger8]

As I said in another part of my qoute, which tells me you didn't read the whole thing, depending on what happens tonight this team could be 1st overall in the entire NHL by tomorrow. There comes a point where a 1st or 2nd round exit simply isn't good enough anymore, the Leafs are at that point.

The Leafs could NOTHING at the deadline and I would still say they should get through the North because they are better than the Habs, Oilers, and Jets.

If they add a couple pieces, which I expect them to, then the ONLY team I'd fear is Tampa.

If they go down in round 1 again You're damn right it's a failure look at this roster, more is expected

^^^^^^ This

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I read the whole post. We are not 1st overall in the NHL. We are currently 6th. While we have a great team with the potential to go all the way, only 4 teams make it past the 2nd round (and only 2 into the SCF - apparently the only way to have a successful season ), and a lot can factor in beyond the quality of a team. We're currently witnessing an amazing Leaf team, and the best one in decades. Not sure how a fan could do anything right now, other than enjoy the ride.

This will be the "best Leaf team in decades" when it proves it, and that comes at playoff time

 

[Dekes For Days]

Eh, there you go making shit up again.

No, he's correct, as usual:

I keep pointing to the overall standings

Funny how you can do it, and determine tiers exclusively from it, but when Zeke takes a look, it's all "pointless" and, in your words, "whoopty doo, who gives a flying f***". Seems pretty hypocritical.

This will be the "best Leaf team in decades" when it proves it, and that comes at playoff time

Regular season matters too. Every Leaf fan should be enjoying this right now. I swear, for some people it's more about having an association with a winning team; not about actually liking and cheering for this team, and enjoying good hockey.

 

[al secord]

it is pretty amazing how many leaf fans are adamant that we shouldn't enjoy watching our team.

Especially with our track record.

 

[LeafGrief]

Winning in the regular season is really fun. Winning in the playoffs is important. Hopefully our regular season success indicates incoming playoff success.

 

[Gary Nylund]

As I said in another part of my qoute, which tells me you didn't read the whole thing, depending on what happens tonight this team could be 1st overall in the entire NHL by tomorrow. There comes a point where a 1st or 2nd round exit simply isn't good enough anymore, the Leafs are at that point.

The Leafs could NOTHING at the deadline and I would still say they should get through the North because they are better than the Habs, Oilers, and Jets.

If they add a couple pieces, which I expect them to, then the ONLY team I'd fear is Tampa.

If they go down in round 1 again You're damn right it's a failure look at this roster, more is expected

I don't fear any team but there a several good teams out there. The most obvious is COL, the best record in the league, the best goal differential and all this playing in a tougher division than ours. What's not to like? If we do make it that far, we're going to playing a very good team in the semis.

If we go down in the 1st round again, this season will be a massive failure, agree 100% and if we go down in the second round, I guess I'd call it a huge disappointment. If that were to happen then maybe some people will be able to console themselves with the fact that our point pace after 39 games had us at 6th overall in the NHL, I'm not one of them.

 

[mix1home]

We don't go into dirty areas, we don't bother their goalies enough, we don't derail them of mentum or put our foot down. That's the toughness I am talking about

I want to address this part of your post. It's not true. We score most of our goals from goal crease or directly in front of the net. And we also win most of our board battles. Only player that avoids physical contact along the boards is Nylander. And that is kind of ok too.

 

[Dekes For Days]

all this playing in a tougher division than ours.

Colorado is not in a tougher division.