Confirmed with Link: DJ Smith fired, Jacques Martin in as interim, Alfie as assistant
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The problem is we have not been in a position (Melnyk, then his passing) to can Dorion before this season and as soon as there was a pretext, Andlauer did so. I think they were pretty well aware when they acquired the team that Dorion absolutely had to go, no matter what they said through medias. Dorion had already decided to sink or swim with the DJ
But seriously, even though the expectations weren't that they'd win the Cup or even make the playoffs, that 2020-21 season told us all we needed to know about Dorion and DJ Smith.
Look at this below, it's not about the W-L column, it's about the way they were losing, that team was barely NHL level. It was already the 4th season of the rebuild (Habs are in their 3rd season in comparison) and money was spent to surround the young core who were all on their ELCs (except Chabot) and we couldn't even take advantage of that, even a little. That was probably the worst GM offseason that I had to witness in decades of following the NHL and DJ had no idea what to do with it.
| Sat, Jan 16 | vs Toronto | L3-2 | 1-1-0 | Murray | Murray |
| Tue, Jan 19 | vs Winnipeg | L4-3 OT | 1-1-1 | Murray | Norris |
| Thu, Jan 21 | vsWinnipeg | L4-1 | 1-2-1 | Murray | Brown |
| Sat, Jan 23 | @Winnipeg | L6-3 | 1-3-1 | Hogberg | Paul |
| Mon, Jan 25 | @ Vancouver | L7-1 | 1-4-1 | Murray | Watson |
| Wed, Jan 27 | @Vancouver | L5-1 | 1-5-1 | Hogberg | Norris |
| Thu, Jan 28 | @Vancouver | L4-1 | 1-6-1 | Murray | Chabot |
| Sun, Jan 31 | @ Edmonton | L8-5 | 1-7-1 | Hogberg | Tkachuk |
| Tue, Feb 2 | @Edmonton | L4-2 | 1-8-1 | Hogberg | Chabot |
I can't imagine any serious NHL business not cleaning the deck after that, season is basically over after 10 games (since it was a shortened season). I don't buy the "rebuilds take forever" narrative and it's not because you're early in the rebuild that you can't show signs of progress. Look at the Habs, Stanley Cup finals in 2021, fell apart the following season and have been ahead of us in the standings all season, playing for 0.500. And they only had Toffoli, Chiarot, Lehkonen and Brett freaking Kulak to sell... In comparison, we had guys like Karlsson, Stone, Duchene, Pageau, Brassard, etc
It is actually pathetic when you look at it this way
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DJ Dorion
Agreed with the first part but which swings were homeruns exactly? His best moves were Karlsson and Pageau trades, Zub signing and the extensions to Stutzle? (although Norris extension shows that it's a risky strategy to save a million or two at best)
I was ok with the Duchene deal because I didn't expect the team to fall that hard just after the 2016-17 season. Duchene was an upgrade on Turris so the team should have been better but reality is they were banged up like crazy (MacArthur, Ryan, Anderson, Karlsson, Phaneuf, Methot were all regressing due to age/injuries)
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There no such thing as Winning percentage?
Hockey Standings Explained Column by Column - Gaimday
The official NHL Standings consists of 16 columns, not just the team record for Wins-Losses-Overtime or Shootout Losses (W/L/OT). (source)
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The NHL dropped the use of Winning percent many many years ago, when they began awarding teams a point, for losing in OT/SO…. And began to use Points Percentage.
Yeah people use “oh he was there just to keep the kids positive”. Uhhh that’s not a description of NHL head coach.The problem is we have not been in a position (Melnyk, then his passing) to can Dorion before this season and as soon as there was a pretext, Andlauer did so. I think they were pretty well aware when they acquired the team that Dorion absolutely had to go, no matter what they said through medias. Dorion had already decided to sink or swim with the DJ
But seriously, even though the expectations weren't that they'd win the Cup or even make the playoffs, that 2020-21 season told us all we needed to know about Dorion and DJ Smith.
Look at this below, it's not about the W-L column, it's about the way they were losing, that team was barely NHL level. It was already the 4th season of the rebuild (Habs are in their 3rd season in comparison) and money was spent to surround the young core who were all on their ELCs (except Chabot) and we couldn't even take advantage of that, even a little. That was probably the worst GM offseason that I had to witness in decades of following the NHL and DJ had no idea what to do with it.
Sat, Jan 16 vs L3-2 1-1-0 Murray Murray Tue, Jan 19 vs L4-3 OT 1-1-1 Murray Norris Thu, Jan 21 vs L4-1 1-2-1 Murray Brown Sat, Jan 23 @ L6-3 1-3-1 Hogberg Paul Mon, Jan 25 @ L7-1 1-4-1 Murray Watson Wed, Jan 27 @ L5-1 1-5-1 Hogberg Norris Thu, Jan 28 @ L4-1 1-6-1 Murray Chabot Sun, Jan 31 @ L8-5 1-7-1 Hogberg Tkachuk Tue, Feb 2 @ L4-2 1-8-1 Hogberg Chabot
I can't imagine any serious NHL business not cleaning the deck after that, season is basically over after 10 games (since it was a shortened season). I don't buy the "rebuilds take forever" narrative and it's not because you're early in the rebuild that you can't show signs of progress. Look at the Habs, Stanley Cup finals in 2021, fell apart the following season and have been ahead of us in the standings all season, playing for 0.500. And they only had Toffoli, Chiarot, Lehkonen and Brett freaking Kulak to sell... In comparison, we had guys like Karlsson, Stone, Duchene, Pageau, Brassard, etc
It is actually pathetic when you look at it this way
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Seems nice of him, I think. Before I can be sure I need to know WTF "high emotion" is exactly.
Are they high a lot?
Are they highly emotional?
Do they experience a high amount of emotions?
Which is it?
We need transparency from this new coaching staff!!!!!!!!
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Ha. Love it.
I don't even know how to play hockey without a puff or an edible anymore.
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that could read as a back handed compliment.
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Lol when you hear the guys like Greig say "we're not getting frustrated anymore when the team faces adversity".
Martin saysi: Either we sulk or you take it and be a man and want to get better.
Sulking. Frustration. It's easy to see what type of emotion Jacques is talking about. They were DJs emotional kids.
Martin saysi: Either we sulk or you take it and be a man and want to get better.
Sulking. Frustration. It's easy to see what type of emotion Jacques is talking about. They were DJs emotional kids.
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Weird tweet, he said the played with a lot of passion and emotion, said that's a good thing at doesn't want the to lose that but they needed to manage the game better and if I remember correctly manage their emotions with the highs and lows,
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Gord alluded on the pregame how these players cut their teeth with DJ and it took them longer to buy in and adjust to new coaching.
Seems that most have accomplished that now. (for now lol)
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Funny how he said that yesterday and then they respond with the least inspiring no emotion performance this season
I’d say regulating their emotions was one of the problems with the team. They’d get high emotion when they were scoring, or high emotion on a perceived injustice but really what they needed to learn is be a team to control its emotion and channel that emotion (frustration, happiness, staifiscfation, hurt pride) into effort that wins you games and doesn’t create narrative excuses for TSN - but they didn’t do that last night that game was brutal.
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The only goalie I have even a smidge of confidence in is Forsberg.
Last night felt like it needed to be a game the goalie kept you in it and the team took all 60-65 minutes to win the game. Felt if they could hung around for 2 periods they had a chance to figure it out. But the goaltending isn’t there and they were out of it all game.
Can say everything you want about the team not being there, but you need your goalie some games to just keep you within a goal and keep you in it until you find your 2nd wind. Players can’t serve the goalies up #1 NHL offence every game. Team had to learn to win 2-1, 3-2 and that’s a tough assignment with these goalies
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this team would be fighting for a playoff spot if Martin took over way before
the way they are pushing in these games is really a nice change
the way they are pushing in these games is really a nice change
I want to see a stronger focus in every game on playing without the puck. Strong forechecking in the O zone, keeping 1 F high to avoid giving up 3 on 2s, etc., fast backchecking to disrupt the other team's attack and entry into our D zone, close aggressive coverage of the Fs and Ds in our D zone, etc. The team is not there yet and needs to improve to get to the next level (playoffs). Such play would keep us in most games to the final buzzer.
