The explanation apparently is the VAR thought the on field call was onsides and then quickly confirmed it was correct. WTF?!?!?
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So VAR f***ed them on the goal and the red card. Plus Jota didn’t even touch the guy on his yellow card and should never have gotten a red.
It would never happen but the result should be vacated and the game replayed. They stole the game from Liverpool and given where both Liverpool and Tottenham are in the table it could have potentially huge consequences for how the season ends.
It would never happen but the result should be vacated and the game replayed. They stole the game from Liverpool and given where both Liverpool and Tottenham are in the table it could have potentially huge consequences for how the season ends.
I don’t think the red card call was necessarily wrong. It falls in that sometimes it stays a yellow and sometimes it gets upgraded to a red category for me so whether I agree with it or not I can accept it. Dixon doing the game didn’t think it was a red but Earle and Mustoe in the studio thought it was.
And Jota’s second yellow was just stupid. You can’t make that challenge when you’re already on a yellow. His first yellow was complete BS though and I have no idea how he got it. But those aren’t VAR things.
But the Diaz goal is an abomination. How a miscommunication like that can’t get clarified before it becomes official I have no idea. That is complete incompetence on so many levels.
I thought that red was pretty brutal. He hit mid ball and his foot got stuck and rolled up. It wasn’t reckless, he wasn’t out of control, and there wasn’t intent… it was bad luck. It happens. A yellow should have been it, in my opinion.
Jota’s second yellow was stupid but I’m not convinced he even made contact. And his first looked like he was just trying to get back upfield.
They had a bunch of critical calls yesterday and they all went against Liverpool. I’d be real butt hurt if I rooted for Liverpool.
Turner has been pretty awful for Forrest today. He should have done better with the goal they gave up, IMO, though it wasn’t terrible, but he has been bailed out by his defenders a number of times for poor goaltending and/or decision making.
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Arsenal look like they’re looking ahead to Sunday’s game vs City. I know they’re professionals and they should treat each game with the utmost importance and all that jazz but tough to blame them given last weekend’s results. They could be sitting alone in first on Sunday evening with a win and they rolled 4-0 in their first group stage game.
The panel narrowly agrees with you on Jota’s 2nd yellow. Overall there were a bunch of mistakes last week apparently.
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Interesting, thanks for sharing. That game was just a mess which sucks because the storyline should have been about two big clubs bouncing back from down years and having an early-season meeting that could impact the top four but instead the only thing that was discussed was the officiating.
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Don't know much about children's soccer or youth sports in general but pay to play is legit bullshit. If you look at other countries they can literally just grab a ball and play outside, but no, if you want organized soccer with your kid in this country you have to pay fees out the ass. I get going to a game and supporting your kid but in this economy it's less viable. And then people wonder why the US can't develop premier soccer talent.
(or why most of the US talent are dual nationals who got most of their training in Europe...)
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It’s ridiculous. I have two kids in soccer and the youth program they play for wants them both to join its Academy program which is a year-round commitment. My daughter is a high level gymnast for her age and her gym requires a year round commitment. My son has started playing hockey and they want him at six to play from August until April and then do summer league. I told them all to get f***ed and that my kids will do what makes them happy and they will try multiple sports and if that means missing things from time to time then so be it. My daughter misses her Saturday gym practices for soccer games and she may quit competitive gym altogether because she wants to try lacrosse in the spring but spring is competition season for gymnastics.
The forced specialization of kids into one sport at a young age is at best monetization of kids and at worst exploitation and abuse. I didn’t play the sport I played in college until high school but I became good very quickly at that sport because I grew up playing multiple sports that developed a range of athletic abilities. I grew up playing travel hockey in the northeast but I still had my summers off except for any camps or rec leagues I wanted to play in and I played soccer, baseball, tennis, and a few others growing up. I played three sports in high school. Now, my 10 year old neighbor who plays travel ice hockey has it as a year round commitment. They play their regular season then in April have tryouts for summer travel which starts in May. They practice multiple times a week in the summer and travel to cities across the country on weekends for tournaments during the summer. And this isn’t even elite level hockey, this is generic travel hockey.
We have morphed from youth sports being about having fun, being part of a team, learning new skills, developing a love for the game, and just being an outlet for kids into them being pawns in a business where parents are forced to dump $15-20k a year, at least, for their kid to play one sport year round. In hockey travel leagues used to be A, B, and C until you got to juniors but now they have only AAA, AA, and A. Are those leagues any different or better than the ones from decades ago? No. My neighbor’s kid plays in the CBHL which is the same league I played in when I moved to DC. All that’s different is that the sport has become even more disgustingly expensive than it already was and the leagues can charge more so parents can say their kid plays AAA hockey. Borderline criminal in my opinion.
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So I sat with Alan May as he was talking to two middle aged women last Saturday watching preseason hockey and I don't really hear much of their conversation other than a brief comment on how pay to play sucks in hockey. Really is ridiculous and glad to see the more older alumni don't like it either. So hard to get kids to play sports these days.
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The flip side of that, is many parents and kids love their sport so much, they happily buy into and play in that type of system. I would have loved a dedicated hockey or soccer program back when I was a kid. And sure, people have built businesses around running these tournament's and leagues, but they are providing a higher level of competition and training…..value.
Question…Can’t kids still play in a local house league that is less of a commitment?
I don’t begrudge my friends who have done the high level travel hockey/baseball/softball/basketball thing. They have made life long friends among the parent groups, their children are in some cases so close they are going to college and playing together there. It’s a massive commitment and I don’t know how you pull it off with multiple children in different sports, but they seem to love it. I like to joke I’m lucky I didn’t have a son (hockey player) because I could see getting sucked into it if he was pretty good.
If only my daughter would get into golf more, thats my dream….
Question…Can’t kids still play in a local house league that is less of a commitment?
I don’t begrudge my friends who have done the high level travel hockey/baseball/softball/basketball thing. They have made life long friends among the parent groups, their children are in some cases so close they are going to college and playing together there. It’s a massive commitment and I don’t know how you pull it off with multiple children in different sports, but they seem to love it. I like to joke I’m lucky I didn’t have a son (hockey player) because I could see getting sucked into it if he was pretty good.
If only my daughter would get into golf more, thats my dream….
I don’t disagree that pay to play is a terrible approach to growing talent.
But our sporting model is so different from the rest of the world, for the most part anyway, that I’m not there are too many other options.
The European sporting club model pyramid just doesn’t exist here. And I’m not talking about promotion/relegation but the money flowing down from the top international levels to the national associations to the regional associations to the small sporting clubs that serve the grassroots development role for multiple sports commonly.
Our grassroots clubs are on their own for the most part and don’t have many options to fund themselves.
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The problem is all of that is driven by the competition for college scholarships. The price of college is creating this butterfly effect that makes lower level sports more competitive and therefore more cutthroat and expensive.
Kids are being groomed and scouted in middle school or earlier.
It's f***ing insane.
Kids are being groomed and scouted in middle school or earlier.
It's f***ing insane.
Those opportunities become less and less prevalent as the kids get older. They're also relegated to whatever leftover field or ice time is left after the travel clubs play. I know of one travel hockey program locally whose rec league ice slots were 10:10 on weekday evenings and 5:50 on weekend mornings. They pay less than the travel kids so they're second-class citizens, so to speak.
I'm fine with kids and families buying into those systems if it's their choice. My parents spent a shit ton of money on me playing hockey growing up and I'm still friends with kids I played with at 13. They're friends as retirees with those kids' parents. It can be a lot of fun if you have the means to do so and if that's what you want to do as a family.
I am not fine with families being forced into that lifestyle because they don't think they have a choice. My neighbor loathes summer hockey but his son's coach pretty much said if you don't play summer travel you won't make his fall travel team so they suck it up and that's very common.
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Rooney out as D.C. coach after playoff hopes end
Wayne Rooney has left his role as D.C. United head coach after the team was eliminated from MLS playoff contention Saturday.
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Rooney out as D.C. coach after playoff hopes end
Wayne Rooney has left his role as D.C. United head coach after the team was eliminated from MLS playoff contention Saturday.www.espn.com
Good players do not always make good coaches. Didn't help the roster is mid.
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