Unreal to think that might be the D core next year, with TWO kids under 20 playing regular minutes on the core (in spite of the stuff coming out of the Buffalo media, I still can't see the Sabres picking another D when they really need help in their top 6 the most -- they have plenty of great kids coming along from their draft and dev pool on the back end).
Prospect Info: Did we find a gem in Martin Marincin?
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Unreal to think that might be the D core next year, with TWO kids under 20 playing regular minutes on the core (in spite of the stuff coming out of the Buffalo media, I still can't see the Sabres picking another D when they really need help in their top 6 the most -- they have plenty of great kids coming along from their draft and dev pool on the back end).
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absolutely brutal D core
if they're smart they give Nurse a 9-game taste and send him back to play in the WJC
and they let Klefbom play another quarter to half a season in the minors
if they get Ekblad, I'd be tempted to put him back in jrs. too
ManofSteel55
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I love how we've already laid claim to Ekblad, ha ha.
MacT absolutley needs to bring in at least one more quality d-man. That top pairing would be a train wreck, and 4 rookie d-men? Gross.
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That's terrible logic. You don't commit to something before camp. You obviously can't keep all of Ekblad/Nurse/Klefa/Marincin on the roster, but you give them a chance to earn a place, and show where their development is at.
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I can't see that many rookies starting next season. Marincin will make it. If we draft Ekblad, one of him or Nurse will make it with the other being sent back to Junior. Klefbom will go back to the AHL and be one of the main call ups.
I think he's starting to pass some defensemen on the depth chart. It's only 10 games, but he's looking better and better.
Theoretically (barring an outstanding camps + 9 game stint by one of them) I'd send them both back. Keep them as far away from this mess as possible.
On topic, really impressed with Marincin so far. Poised and simple game for a 21 year old.
If IF we draft Ekblad I hope the oil do the right thing and send him and Nurse back to junior. You see I love to suffer.
On another note Marincin seems to get it. Is this a mirage? Typical young d man coming in gangbusters for a couple weeks only to fade into oblivion?
On another note Marincin seems to get it. Is this a mirage? Typical young d man coming in gangbusters for a couple weeks only to fade into oblivion?
In the case with drafting Ekblad, I think they might lean towards playing Ekblad because they would gawk over his size (6'4 217) vs Nurse who still has some filling out to do. In no case should both be up, I would prefer only one of Marincin and Nurse be up here next year, and same goes if they draft Ekblad.
I would only add that I think those kind of "slumps" due to tougher opposition and/or more ice time are very useful for both player and organization as to understand how to move forward with the player's development (and also to see how he responds when things get difficult) and for this reason I don't really see the need to lower expectations because of it.
edit: This obviously depends on your expectations though... I think his peak could be as a #2 d-man or an excellent anchor on the 2nd pair, i.e. #3. Furthermore I think that he will at the very least become a very useful bottom pair defenseman (which is also quite good).
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gilbert was great for us when he played with a real d partner, he was never meant to play top line minutes as the strong point of the tandem,
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You know whose else is like that? Petry. A guy who makes his partner look good but takes a lot of heat for some reason
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What really impressed me is hearing he was told to forget about the high risk offensive plays and just play defense. +3 in 10 games on this crack shot defense is impressive.
Not sure what to exactly make of the kid at this point, but in 10 games he's been calm and has listened to instructions and he's only 21.
Not sure what to exactly make of the kid at this point, but in 10 games he's been calm and has listened to instructions and he's only 21.
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Not exactly shocking the guy was around that 20 goal mark here a few times. Not sure that he'd be any sort of answer here anyways though
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I agree with this. Marincin is obviously ready, so keep him up, let our other good prospects marinate in junior, and not rush them, while making some moves for some UFA d-men to fill the gaps (and give our other young d-men experienced players they actually need to earn a spot from).
J. Schultz - Ference
???? - Petry
???? - Marincin
Fedun
The question marks to be filled by responsible veterans, not rookies. Matt Greene, Willie Mitchell, Sami Salo, Stephane Robidas, Derek Morris, Matt Niskanen, Dan Girardi are all guys who could fill those holes (or one on the top pair in Girardi's case).
You don't give them all a chance to earn a spot.
1 sure. 2 if you are desperate. Beyond that you are looking at another worst team in the west situation.
ManofSteel55
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It might just be semantics, but I think you do give them all a chance to earn a spot, but it is sure going to be each other who they are competing with for that spot. We can`t have too many rookies, but we have to let them know that they do all have a chance of earning a spot.
Thats fair absolutely. Take the best one. My point was that you can't bank on anymore than that. You need enough legitimate NHL defensemen to fill out a roster. You can't bank on one of these guys actually being good enough to be a full timer.
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Fedun had an impressive showing as well during his first stint. If nothing else the org needs wake up and realize proper AHL development can pay dividends and stop rushing players unnecessarily.
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