Value of: Devon Toews

[Bjornar Moxnes]

With the Avs most likely going to suffer a cap crunch, I wonder if Toews would ever be available? Byram is knocking at the door and Girard's contract isn't super enticing for most teams to want. Toews would actually be able to fetch some nice pieces back.

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[John Mandalorian]

He’s really been an ideal pairing with Makar. This is often discussed on the Avs board. What will be Toews’ ask? And do they trade Girard instead?

The OP dumps on Girard but his contract is team friendly in that Girard can be a top 4 D for a lot of teams.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

He’s really been an ideal pairing with Makar. This is often discussed on the Avs board. What will be Toews’ ask? And do they trade Girard instead?

The OP dumps on Girard but his contract is team friendly in that Girard can be a top 4 D for a lot of teams.

The problem is offensive LHD Dman are abundant in the NHL. It's not to say you cannot get something for Girard, but probably something very minor.

 

[Vinman88]

With the Avs most likely going to suffer a cap crunch, I wonder if Toews would ever be available? Byram is knocking at the door and Girard's contract isn't super enticing for most teams to want. Toews would actually be able to fetch some nice pieces back.

Toews for Reinhardt done

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Toews for Reinhardt done

If Avs trade Toews, I'm sure they want to clear cap space, not add more.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Toews for Reinhardt done

Guess again.

 

[JoeSakic13]

The problem is offensive LHD Dman are abundant in the NHL. It's not to say you cannot get something for Girard, but probably something very minor.

I dunno if it’s fair to say “very minor”, as Girard would be top 4 on most teams and even top pairing on some.

That being said, yes the return on Toews would be greater. However with Makar and Byram in the lineup I think Girard is more expendable.

So my view is the only reason you move Toews is if you aren’t going to be able to re-up him. I’d rather move Girard for nothing (won’t happen, just illustrating my viewpoint) than get a haul for Toews.

 

[614 CBJ]

Columbus may be interested after losing Gavrikov

 

[dirtydanglez]

If Avs trade Toews, I'm sure they want to clear cap space, not add more.

if they trade toews it's probably for futures or a 2nd line center with more term.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Columbus may be interested after losing Gavrikov

They have nothing to offer. Roslovic doesn’t get you Toews. Jenner doesn’t get you Toews. And it’s doubtful they’re willing to trade Johnson. And there’s a likelihood that the Avs are interested in “win now” players.

 

[dirtydanglez]

They have nothing to offer. Roslovic doesn’t get you Toews. Jenner doesn’t get you Toews. And it’s doubtful they’re willing to trade Johnson. And there’s a likelihood that the Avs are interested in “win now” players.

3 years of jenner @ 3.75m for 1 year of toews isn't bad.

 

[John Mandalorian]

3 years of jenner @ 3.75m for 1 year of toews isn't bad.

It’s awful.

 

[dirtydanglez]

It’s awful.

i dont think so. you're certainly not going to get kent johnson lol. i think you have unrealistic expectations

 

[John Mandalorian]

i dont think so. you're certainly not going to get kent johnson lol. i think you have unrealistic expectations

There are 30 other teams. Like I said, Columbus isn’t a good trade partner because they don’t have anything they can realistically offer. Jenner is more like a 3C. The Avs should realistically expect a lot more for Toews. And if it is Jenner, the plus would need to be so significant that Jenner isn’t necessarily the main piece.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

There are 30 other teams. Like I said, Columbus isn’t a good trade partner because they don’t have anything they can realistically offer. Jenner is more like a 3C. The Avs should realistically expect a lot more for Toews. And if it is Jenner, the plus would need to be so significant that Jenner isn’t necessarily the main piece.

Jenner and protected 2024 1st for Toews? (Note not a CBJ fan).

 

[John Mandalorian]

Jenner and protected 2024 1st for Toews? (Note not a CBJ fan).

How does a protected 2024 1st help the Avs?

The delay in utility means it’s more like the equivalent of a 2023 2nd. And it’s protected? That’s a big no thanks.

 

[Riseonfire]

Why would the Avs trade a “top 5 Dman in the league”?? Lol

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Why would the Avs trade a “top 5 Dman in the league”?? Lol

Because the salary cap is a thing that exists.

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Kuznetsov for Toews please and thank you.

 

[Riseonfire]

Because the salary cap is a thing that exists.

You don't trade a "top 5" dman for cap reasons

 

[John Mandalorian]

Kuznetsov for Toews please and thank you.

The Avs would need to hire Dr Feelgood as the team doctor first.

 

[Djp]

There are 30 other teams. Like I said, Columbus isn’t a good trade partner because they don’t have anything they can realistically offer. Jenner is more like a 3C. The Avs should realistically expect a lot more for Toews. And if it is Jenner, the plus would need to be so significant that Jenner isn’t necessarily the main piece.

Colorado appears cap strapped next year. Need 9 roster players and $13M in space and Bynum an RFA. After signing him you pretty much are looking at $1M contracts.

with Toews having 1 yr of term left you aren’t getting some high prospect or some decent 2C with term/ team control. More like a player for player deal that is close to money and term.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Colorado appears cap strapped next year. Need 9 roster players and $13M in space and Bynum an RFA. After signing him you pretty much are looking at $1M contracts.

with Toews having 1 yr of term left you aren’t getting some high prospect or some decent 2C with term/ team control. More like a player for player deal that is close to money and term.

That's not going to get it done. The Avs are better off keeping Toews for the duration. In 2 years, maybe the cap increases enough.

 

[Djp]

That's not going to get it done. The Avs are better off keeping Toews for the duration. In 2 years, maybe the cap increases enough.

With the cable TV revenue problem….only expect a small increase.

 

[John Mandalorian]

With the cable TV revenue problem….only expect a small increase.

Perhaps. Nevertheless.